This should have been 24 episodes long. A lot of eps 25-30 were frustrating sub-plots and flashbacks which lowered the enjoyment of the drama for me. I still gave it an 8 since it was an enjoyable drama and I would watch it again, but had it been 24 episodes long instead of 30 and it might have been even better.
I don't think the drama deserves the negative reviews and hate it is getting. Under the circumstances it was made…
I dont think it it was hallucination at the end. I would believe so if it was just her and him, but the monk was there and explained everything in a logical way so I think the whole thing was real. I agree that with all that happened, this is a pretty good drama and I really liked both the main leads. Some characters did disappoint me and I did felt bored at times but it was still a good saeguk with excellent acting.
Amen to that! That’s why I particularly like this one. Yes I’m biased towards the couple but also because…
Yeah, there aren't that many lakorns with nice male leads. I have watched a few but a long time ago. I will throw a few here but there might be some I remember wrongly and the ML was not that nice, so sorry if it happens.
- Jao Sao Jum Yorm - Kao Waan Hai Noo Pen Sai Lub - Look Tard (I mean, he is a slave so he is kind of forced to being nice, but he is especially nice to the FL) - Marn Bang Jai - Mee Piang Rak - Padiwaradda (I think... it has been a long time since I watched this one) - Piang Chai Khon Nee Mai Chai Poo Wised - Poo Bao Indy Yayee Inter - Rang Mai Hua Jai Derm - Sapai Import (despite their bickering, I remember him being relatively nice) - Tawipob (older drama, cant remember for sure, but I think the ML was nice) - Waen Dok Mai (he is her best friend before they start dating, that says it all)
And finally, - Suparburoot Jorm Jon: Maturot Lohgan (same main leads as this one, he was as nice as possible considering their situation and the way he was raised)
I hope you find these recommendations helpful. I basically just went through the Thai dramas in my completed list that had a rating of 7 or higher and that I think had a nice male lead. Some of these I watched 3-4 years ago and cant remember well so there might be a jerk male lead somewhere on the list. XD
This is soooo bad. I cannot understand how someone would give it anything over 5, which by MDL’s definition means its okay...this is definitely not an okay drama.
The plot is bad, Idk if its the acting or the way the characters were written but they are also bad, the FL is depressing to look at, even when she was not supposed to be unhappy, but most of all the dubbing was one of the worst I have seen. Like, you have a character knocking on a door and there is no sound, but then you have overly dramatic noises when there should be no noise at all.
I was going to give this a chance since I have no new dramas to watch, but this is so bad that I could barely go through 2 episodes. I don't recommend this one to my worst enemy. Its THAT bad.
1. It happen all the time on another china drama tv series..... Almost....2. Because, there is wu zentian character,…
I think the main problem is that this is supposed to be 46 episodes long, which is the tv version. But most of us watched the DVD version, which is only 40 episodes long. Those 6 episodes worth of plot were left off from the version we watched and that definitely made a difference. Maybe the things I felt were missing for the ending to not feel so anti-climatic were on the tv version and were removed from the 40 episode version. :(
1. It happen all the time on another china drama tv series..... Almost....2. Because, there is wu zentian character,…
Just to adress something quick. I did not say it was an open-ending, I said it felt like there should be more episodes and the drama was suddenly cut short wich made the ending anti-climatic. You yourseld said that it should have 5-10 more episodes, which means you too felt there should be something more after episode 40.
And btw, Im not complaining too much about this particular drama. I always leave my honest opinion on most dramas I watch, something a lot of people appreciate because it helps them decide if the drama is worth their time.
In this particular one I only complained because there was nothing I could think of that made it stand out from all the other dramas I have watched. If there was one thing I liked a lot in the middle of the things I didnt like, I would have mentioned it. But it didnt happen.
I am not saying its a bad drama and no one should watch it. But its definitely a drama I would not recommend to someone who is looking for a smart plot, well-developed characters and a satisfying ending.
1. It happen all the time on another china drama tv series..... Almost....2. Because, there is wu zentian character,…
1. I didnt say you said the drama was bad, I said the way you justified its faults was almost as if you were saying its ok to be bad.
2. Since when cant we have 2 intelligent women in the same drama?? That makes no sense. The intelligence of a person is not their only personality trait, 2 people can be equally intelligent and have completely different personalities.
3. As far as I remember she was powerful for pretty much the entire time the FL was in the palace...I mean she even locked the female lead in prison for several days because she was able to easily bribe a prison guard.
4. Its not a maybe. I have watched hundreds of chinese dramas since 2010 and I am not saying it has never happened, but it definitely does not happen as often as an open-ending or a tragic ending for example.
I appreciated the discussion we had about these points but lets end it here because I keep explaining the same things over and over again and I am getting tired of coming back to this page to comment on a drama I watched 2 months ago and that I did not even like that much.
Yeah, that is how I know its not the same drama. I watched a few seconds of the first episode on mgtv and it did not match the drama on iqiyi. Oh well, I guess I will have to skip on this one until it gets subbed...if it gets subbed.
I watched the whole movie I guess the story is still unclear to me ?There were a lot of plots which I didn't understand.…
Yeah, I am also wondering that. The idea was interesting but the execution was terrible, the editing was chopped, the acting was also below average and I suspect they had a low budget. This should have been a drama to flesh out all the sub-plots. Condensing this kind of story into a movie just doesnt work.
1. It happen all the time on another china drama tv series..... Almost....2. Because, there is wu zentian character,…
I am not saying this does not happen in other c-dramas. But the way you are justifying this drama’s flaws is almost like you are saying its ok for this drama to be bad because there are other dramas that are also bad.
I have watched many c-dramas and there are so many that do not have these issues so I cant just put this one together with the good ones and pretend these flaws do not exist.
So about your points, they dont justify what I said previously.
2 - There are many c-dramas with well-written characters that are either consistent throughout the drama or have character development. In this one neither happens, the FL is just a genius one second and an idiot the next.
3 - In the beginning yes, but like I said, she is the one being favored by the emperor, not the woman making clothes so it does not make sense for her to be able to do whatever she wants even after the concubine loses favor. Also, women have way less power in the palace, a Prime Minister for example would have more power than a concubine, some were even able to force the Emperor to make decisions in their favor. So its just not realistic for the villain in this drama to be able to pull so many strings.
4 - Open endings, tragic endings and rushed endings yes...but an ending that feels like the drama had to suddenly be cut short - no, it does not happen that often.
THANK GOD I read the spoilers. I was going to start watching this today since it is finally completely subbed and I have been waiting to binge-watch. But I was put off by the fact that the cast showed so many main characters. I know when there are several main characters they steal screen time/make things complicated.
So I decided to read the comments to find out more about their relationships since synopsis are not very accurate and OH MY....I AM OUT. I am already angry because of what I read, imagine if I had taken the time to watch this. Idk why they didnt add an infidelity tag up there, that alone would have been a red flag for me.
Thank you for sharing. I watch dramas on my computer because I like watching in a big screen so I guess I will have to skip on this one unless someone subs with a resolution that I can watch on my laptop.
- Jao Sao Jum Yorm
- Kao Waan Hai Noo Pen Sai Lub
- Look Tard (I mean, he is a slave so he is kind of forced to being nice, but he is especially nice to the FL)
- Marn Bang Jai
- Mee Piang Rak
- Padiwaradda (I think... it has been a long time since I watched this one)
- Piang Chai Khon Nee Mai Chai Poo Wised
- Poo Bao Indy Yayee Inter
- Rang Mai Hua Jai Derm
- Sapai Import (despite their bickering, I remember him being relatively nice)
- Tawipob (older drama, cant remember for sure, but I think the ML was nice)
- Waen Dok Mai (he is her best friend before they start dating, that says it all)
And finally,
- Suparburoot Jorm Jon: Maturot Lohgan (same main leads as this one, he was as nice as possible considering their situation and the way he was raised)
I hope you find these recommendations helpful. I basically just went through the Thai dramas in my completed list that had a rating of 7 or higher and that I think had a nice male lead. Some of these I watched 3-4 years ago and cant remember well so there might be a jerk male lead somewhere on the list. XD
The plot is bad, Idk if its the acting or the way the characters were written but they are also bad, the FL is depressing to look at, even when she was not supposed to be unhappy, but most of all the dubbing was one of the worst I have seen. Like, you have a character knocking on a door and there is no sound, but then you have overly dramatic noises when there should be no noise at all.
I was going to give this a chance since I have no new dramas to watch, but this is so bad that I could barely go through 2 episodes. I don't recommend this one to my worst enemy. Its THAT bad.
And btw, Im not complaining too much about this particular drama. I always leave my honest opinion on most dramas I watch, something a lot of people appreciate because it helps them decide if the drama is worth their time.
In this particular one I only complained because there was nothing I could think of that made it stand out from all the other dramas I have watched. If there was one thing I liked a lot in the middle of the things I didnt like, I would have mentioned it. But it didnt happen.
I am not saying its a bad drama and no one should watch it. But its definitely a drama I would not recommend to someone who is looking for a smart plot, well-developed characters and a satisfying ending.
2. Since when cant we have 2 intelligent women in the same drama?? That makes no sense. The intelligence of a person is not their only personality trait, 2 people can be equally intelligent and have completely different personalities.
3. As far as I remember she was powerful for pretty much the entire time the FL was in the palace...I mean she even locked the female lead in prison for several days because she was able to easily bribe a prison guard.
4. Its not a maybe. I have watched hundreds of chinese dramas since 2010 and I am not saying it has never happened, but it definitely does not happen as often as an open-ending or a tragic ending for example.
I appreciated the discussion we had about these points but lets end it here because I keep explaining the same things over and over again and I am getting tired of coming back to this page to comment on a drama I watched 2 months ago and that I did not even like that much.
Hope you enjoy your next drama. See you.
Thank you for trying to help. ^ ^
I have watched many c-dramas and there are so many that do not have these issues so I cant just put this one together with the good ones and pretend these flaws do not exist.
So about your points, they dont justify what I said previously.
2 - There are many c-dramas with well-written characters that are either consistent throughout the drama or have character development. In this one neither happens, the FL is just a genius one second and an idiot the next.
3 - In the beginning yes, but like I said, she is the one being favored by the emperor, not the woman making clothes so it does not make sense for her to be able to do whatever she wants even after the concubine loses favor. Also, women have way less power in the palace, a Prime Minister for example would have more power than a concubine, some were even able to force the Emperor to make decisions in their favor. So its just not realistic for the villain in this drama to be able to pull so many strings.
4 - Open endings, tragic endings and rushed endings yes...but an ending that feels like the drama had to suddenly be cut short - no, it does not happen that often.
So I decided to read the comments to find out more about their relationships since synopsis are not very accurate and OH MY....I AM OUT. I am already angry because of what I read, imagine if I had taken the time to watch this. Idk why they didnt add an infidelity tag up there, that alone would have been a red flag for me.