I have watched the previous Road to Kingdom editions and I must say, watching the first two episodes of Ace of…
They are quite a few members who were on iland together, produce 101 together, there trainee's at hybe/ bighit and so on together, their probably closer than shown on the show. Ateez/ Mayfly and so on have established fanbases, they were groups that if they did well or not they would be fine.
Alot of the groups on here are still new/ mostly unknown and could possible disband in a year or two. This is like a lifeline to some groups.
Needless to say, i see them cheering for each other alot, but also it's refreshing that they are giving honest opinions when something isn't perfect. But it's kpop so fans will yeah you know...
Hopefully, they will do a sports day and you will see how close the groups are.
I've finally finished this and I'm just angry and annoyed.
This show branded itself as giving groups a second chance, with whatever had happened but the way they handled Karam and group 23:00 was so disappointing. I just remember the judges after team 23:00 second performance going why are u not a huge star, he was a diamond in the rough. Someone who had slipped the net and had been missed in this over-saturated kpop world and peak time had found him again and put him in the spot light and then some random person posts pictures of him at a party with loads of people and a pornstar is there and with no evidence of anything, story's are made up and he is off the show.
He did mention in that horrible apology they were clearly forced to give that there was no validity in those claims and yet they were forced off the show. My thing is he is a 30 year old grown man who hasn't been in the limelight for years. What if he dated?? I would imagine half of the people on that show have dated.
I just think they should have supported him, they should have fact checked and if he had worst case dated the woman who was pornstar years ago, is that a crime???? They should have said that's his private life and we respect that. Let people vote and if people had an issue with it then they cannot vote for him and his group doesn't win and it's over but the way they kicked the group out. The way they forced them to apologise like that.
Karam, I had seen his bl with Leo from Vixx and he was slowly coming back but I didn't even know he was an idol before until this show. He has an amazing voice, his visuals, he can dance and has that stage presence not many have. One thing I really loved about him was his positive spirit and mindset. He seemed like such a positive person and at each stage they cherished the little things this show gave them again and to see that crushed and to see his face when they were apologising. He looked defeated and they don't deserve him.
He cud have slowly build some career now without this show and they ruined it.
And then I think about the high suicide rates in Korea and with idols too, I would think at some point someone wud say their humans, they shud be allowed to party, to date.
Also, if this was produce/ boys planet I would somewhat understand because those contestants couldn't do anything or else they didn't make the team but Karam is on peak time, a show that was supposedly giving second chances to idols.
They both settled in court. I wouldn’t say his innocent but their relationship seems quite toxic.
From Builds statement he admitted him n poi were dating for a while (I know some didn’t even believe he dated her)
They rough played/ teased her hard… (was he pushing her ‘teasingly’, rough playing ‘teasingly’ but at some point poi thought the rough play was abuse…. But now she is saying it’s rough play too on her statement. I’ve seen that the Thai side thinks Poi was silenced but I will leave it there.
Poi admitted that she used a picture from online for the miscarriage story in her statement. Tbh she had already said she used a picture online to add vision to her miscarriage story. In her statement now she didn’t say she lied abt the miscarriage story… nor did Build refute it.
Plus the recorded conversations, in Builds statement he admitted to recording their conversations but he said he didn’t release them (did he give them to his friend who then released it as a speculative guess lmao, I won’t say anymore, he did apologise for that, they both apologised for stuff.)
It’s finally over, I think they have both messed up in ways.
It will be interesting to see where Builds career goes from here.
Ohh and the build stans camped on here you don’t have to reply to me, you can just celebrate ur faves ‘innocence’ by making a new comment or why not trend a build is innocent hashtag. I don’t really have the energy to argue with build stans lol
Just finished the extra episode with the commentary and I like the dynamics of the group. Ricky seems more outgoing and funnier than I ever saw in the show. Gunwook seems very social with the group and it's nice not to panic when he speaks thinking that he will be evil edited by mnet. I like the Gyuvin/ Gunwook dynamics.
Gyuvin seems chaotic, funny and clumsy and I love that. I hope he never changes.
I've heard rumours that Shanbin is the leader of the group.
Yujin seems like he is chaotic but in a shy kinda way. Like he will be throwing funny shade but in a quiet voice.
I am interested to see more of Jiwoong, Taerae, Hao & Matthew in the group n wat their really like.
This commentary episode was funny, i'm excited for their variety shows and their new music.
GUNWOOK, You did it!!!!! I am so happy he made it.
I went into this show as a casual watcher not expecting to be voting or stressing over this show.
I have watched Wild idol with Gunwook and is such a good rapper.
But seeing him again he was more confident, he is an all rounder. He can sing, he can dance, he can rap. I really liked that he said what was on his mind. (Like im a kpop stan and a lot of idols are very restricted with what they say) So it was refreshing seeing someone who just said what was on his mind.(tho not everyone liked it, I loved it) I fell into a Gunwook rabbit hole and I was following his stan accounds on twt, I was watching all his videos. It was fun until I would watch an elimination episode and he was # 10 even tho I had started voting. So now I had strategically vote.
It was crazy, stressful, I was too invested and he was on the border but we pushed on and I was sooo happy seeing him debut. He looked so happy and shocked.
I would have loved to see Gunwook and Juhyeon debut together, I loved seeing their friendship, it seemed so genuine. I hope they stay friends after this.
With the lineup for ZB1, (what a name...) because Gunwook made it, I'm happy with it but seriously its a good lineup. I like the group, their a mix of people who bring different things to the group. If they release good music they will be unstoppable.
I think for those that didn't make it, just being on this show opens so many doors. We are going to have soo many groups debuting with boys planet members and the good news is I can stan all of them if I want to. There is no limit.
But overall, the show had me hooked, it had me stressing, it was fun, they were highs and it had me voting and I never do that so with all the evil editing and what not I guess MNET did do something right. I was invested in this show.
But I am soooo glad it's over and I am sooo happy Gunwook made it.
I decided to listen to this again after years. It’s a produce 101 season 1 performance and it’s interesting how back then Mnet showed performances almost in full, no repetitive replays of certain parts, no judges reaction, no going to the other contestants reactions so often.
No if there’s a high note they will show the judges reaction/ other contestants reactions, replay the part n show another reaction of the crowd (usually a screaming fan and I’m seeing the back of their throats).
I preferred it back then, now if you want to see the full performance you have watch another version of the performance on YouTube.
Seriously guys this is a survival show not a talent show. Why should hanbin give up his chance to show his best…
oh my gosh, is this not a competition, is this not a survival show. Is there a rule that says if you have had a killing part for the final you should not be the main vocalist?
Is there a limit to how much a trainee can showcase their talent on a competition about finding talent????
His fans voted for him and one of the perks is he gets to choose the position he wants and it makes sense for him to choose the main vocalist part because he is a main vocalist.
Jay should have been more strategic, he had a low ranking and he picked the main vocalist position. Tae Rae was smart, you think he didn't want the main vocalist position.
I need Cong to debut somewhere, even when he knew he had been eliminated he was so supportive to all the members and honestly, he is one of the most talented members on that show and he is such an amazing dancer.
His dance skills I would say exceeds majority of the kpop industry...
I’m still kind of salty for Sung Hanbin kicking out Jay and making him go to sub vocal 6 😣Like SHanbin he’s…
I respect SHanbin for taking the main vocalist role, like others have said this isn't a charity but a competition. His fans voted for him and he wants to showcase his talents. I saw other trainee's in the last round choose a sub role and they barely had any parts and somehow they are still in the top 9 but other trainee's who worked so hard and carried performances have been eliminated.
At least Hanbin is still choosing the main vocalist role, even though he cud choose a sub vocalist 6 position and debut number 1 but I don't think many people who have voted for him would respect that.
Jay should have chosen sub vocal 1 or 2. He isn't ranked high. He moved Seung Eon from the main vocalist position. No one said anything about that (Seung Eon is also not safe). If he hadn't Seung Eon would be a sub vocalist 6 now not Jay. Jay should have been strategic. You think Tae rae didn't want that main vocalist role?? He was strategic.
Also, you saying why couldn't he take sub vocal 1 which is Tae rae or Seung Eon...who would have been moved to the sub vocal 6 position, would that have been better for you?? To me it seems like whatever SHanbin would have chosen except for maybe the empty sub vocal 6 position, someone would have been salty....It would also make no sense for him to pick a sub vocal 6 position (unless for charity) when he is a main vocalist as well.
Alot of the groups on here are still new/ mostly unknown and could possible disband in a year or two. This is like a lifeline to some groups.
Needless to say, i see them cheering for each other alot, but also it's refreshing that they are giving honest opinions when something isn't perfect. But it's kpop so fans will yeah you know...
Hopefully, they will do a sports day and you will see how close the groups are.
This show branded itself as giving groups a second chance, with whatever had happened but the way they handled Karam and group 23:00 was so disappointing. I just remember the judges after team 23:00 second performance going why are u not a huge star, he was a diamond in the rough. Someone who had slipped the net and had been missed in this over-saturated kpop world and peak time had found him again and put him in the spot light and then some random person posts pictures of him at a party with loads of people and a pornstar is there and with no evidence of anything, story's are made up and he is off the show.
He did mention in that horrible apology they were clearly forced to give that there was no validity in those claims and yet they were forced off the show. My thing is he is a 30 year old grown man who hasn't been in the limelight for years. What if he dated?? I would imagine half of the people on that show have dated.
I just think they should have supported him, they should have fact checked and if he had worst case dated the woman who was pornstar years ago, is that a crime???? They should have said that's his private life and we respect that. Let people vote and if people had an issue with it then they cannot vote for him and his group doesn't win and it's over but the way they kicked the group out. The way they forced them to apologise like that.
Karam, I had seen his bl with Leo from Vixx and he was slowly coming back but I didn't even know he was an idol before until this show. He has an amazing voice, his visuals, he can dance and has that stage presence not many have. One thing I really loved about him was his positive spirit and mindset. He seemed like such a positive person and at each stage they cherished the little things this show gave them again and to see that crushed and to see his face when they were apologising. He looked defeated and they don't deserve him.
He cud have slowly build some career now without this show and they ruined it.
And then I think about the high suicide rates in Korea and with idols too, I would think at some point someone wud say their humans, they shud be allowed to party, to date.
Also, if this was produce/ boys planet I would somewhat understand because those contestants couldn't do anything or else they didn't make the team but Karam is on peak time, a show that was supposedly giving second chances to idols.
They failed him, it was hard to finish this show.
I am happy that his teammates stood by him,
If they have a comeback I will support them.
They both settled in court. I wouldn’t say his innocent but their relationship seems quite toxic.
From Builds statement he admitted him n poi were dating for a while (I know some didn’t even believe he dated her)
They rough played/ teased her hard… (was he pushing her ‘teasingly’, rough playing ‘teasingly’ but at some point poi thought the rough play was abuse…. But now she is saying it’s rough play too on her statement. I’ve seen that the Thai side thinks Poi was silenced but I will leave it there.
Poi admitted that she used a picture from online for the miscarriage story in her statement. Tbh she had already said she used a picture online to add vision to her miscarriage story. In her statement now she didn’t say she lied abt the miscarriage story… nor did Build refute it.
Plus the recorded conversations, in Builds statement he admitted to recording their conversations but he said he didn’t release them (did he give them to his friend who then released it as a speculative guess lmao, I won’t say anymore, he did apologise for that, they both apologised for stuff.)
It’s finally over, I think they have both messed up in ways.
It will be interesting to see where Builds career goes from here.
Ohh and the build stans camped on here you don’t have to reply to me, you can just celebrate ur faves ‘innocence’ by making a new comment or why not trend a build is innocent hashtag. I don’t really have the energy to argue with build stans lol
Gyuvin seems chaotic, funny and clumsy and I love that. I hope he never changes.
I've heard rumours that Shanbin is the leader of the group.
Yujin seems like he is chaotic but in a shy kinda way. Like he will be throwing funny shade but in a quiet voice.
I am interested to see more of Jiwoong, Taerae, Hao & Matthew in the group n wat their really like.
This commentary episode was funny, i'm excited for their variety shows and their new music.
I went into this show as a casual watcher not expecting to be voting or stressing over this show.
I have watched Wild idol with Gunwook and is such a good rapper.
But seeing him again he was more confident, he is an all rounder. He can sing, he can dance, he can rap. I really liked that he said what was on his mind. (Like im a kpop stan and a lot of idols are very restricted with what they say) So it was refreshing seeing someone who just said what was on his mind.(tho not everyone liked it, I loved it) I fell into a Gunwook rabbit hole and I was following his stan accounds on twt, I was watching all his videos. It was fun until I would watch an elimination episode and he was # 10 even tho I had started voting. So now I had strategically vote.
It was crazy, stressful, I was too invested and he was on the border but we pushed on and I was sooo happy seeing him debut. He looked so happy and shocked.
I would have loved to see Gunwook and Juhyeon debut together, I loved seeing their friendship, it seemed so genuine. I hope they stay friends after this.
With the lineup for ZB1, (what a name...) because Gunwook made it, I'm happy with it but seriously its a good lineup. I like the group, their a mix of people who bring different things to the group. If they release good music they will be unstoppable.
I think for those that didn't make it, just being on this show opens so many doors. We are going to have soo many groups debuting with boys planet members and the good news is I can stan all of them if I want to. There is no limit.
But overall, the show had me hooked, it had me stressing, it was fun, they were highs and it had me voting and I never do that so with all the evil editing and what not I guess MNET did do something right. I was invested in this show.
But I am soooo glad it's over and I am sooo happy Gunwook made it.
Freedom at last.
It was a cute drama without any drama. The acting was below average, the writing, dialogue was hmm. The so-so translations didn't help.
Can’t wait until it’s over next week.
I decided to listen to this again after years. It’s a produce 101 season 1 performance and it’s interesting how back then Mnet showed performances almost in full, no repetitive replays of certain parts, no judges reaction, no going to the other contestants reactions so often.
No if there’s a high note they will show the judges reaction/ other contestants reactions, replay the part n show another reaction of the crowd (usually a screaming fan and I’m seeing the back of their throats).
I preferred it back then, now if you want to see the full performance you have watch another version of the performance on YouTube.
Is there a limit to how much a trainee can showcase their talent on a competition about finding talent????
His fans voted for him and one of the perks is he gets to choose the position he wants and it makes sense for him to choose the main vocalist part because he is a main vocalist.
Jay should have been more strategic, he had a low ranking and he picked the main vocalist position. Tae Rae was smart, you think he didn't want the main vocalist position.
His dance skills I would say exceeds majority of the kpop industry...
At least Hanbin is still choosing the main vocalist role, even though he cud choose a sub vocalist 6 position and debut number 1 but I don't think many people who have voted for him would respect that.
Jay should have chosen sub vocal 1 or 2. He isn't ranked high. He moved Seung Eon from the main vocalist position. No one said anything about that (Seung Eon is also not safe). If he hadn't Seung Eon would be a sub vocalist 6 now not Jay. Jay should have been strategic. You think Tae rae didn't want that main vocalist role?? He was strategic.
Also, you saying why couldn't he take sub vocal 1 which is Tae rae or Seung Eon...who would have been moved to the sub vocal 6 position, would that have been better for you?? To me it seems like whatever SHanbin would have chosen except for maybe the empty sub vocal 6 position, someone would have been salty....It would also make no sense for him to pick a sub vocal 6 position (unless for charity) when he is a main vocalist as well.