Its so annoying this voice dubbing cdramas do and very unnecessary too! Makes the characters sound so fake. I…
It is practical. Once you understand that many actors dub their own voices afterwards, then a lot of retakes are avoidable.
I hate it as an insult to the actors' art. Voice is so important. How can two people act the same part? Do they disagree at times? Who decides?
I wonder if thats why so often some actors seem not to be moving their lips when they should, bec the dub doesnt match or bec they are trying to make it easier on themselves later when it has to..
They really churn out these series. Casting becomes easier if you can avoid some obvious non-fits by dubbing later.
Sometimes the voice actors are really wonderful; for ex the famous one who dubbed Dylan Wang in LBFAD.. The studios where they do all this work must be incredibly big and busy.
ATC still holding its place on the Worldwide totalized Netflix, topten ranking on Flixpatrol, where chinese series do not usually make it.
ATC is way high on the asia list which is great.
But the reason it is making a move on the worldwide listing is that it is being watched in a number of kdrama strongholds outside of asia -- Brazil esp (tons of subscribers), but basically Latin America and the Gulf States. ATC is at lower positions on these lists, which creates a low placement on the worldwide list, but also makes the move possible.
While I am really enjoying ATC for its own trueblood cdrama sake, I think its popularity is built on top of the other blockbusters recently, which are creating a shift in taste in crucial streaming markets.
In the middle of ep* but just want to pin down a random thought before it gets buried by the night in the bandit fortress.
Comparing the FL role here to other FL roles in general.
I usually prefer thoughtful calculating heroines who can stay out of danger. The impulsive and thoughtless ones who have to constantly be rescued from their own ill-considered actions are an affront to strong women everywhere, imo. So obviously I was happy with Prisoner of Beauty, Splendid Match and Pursuit of Jade to varying degrees.
I actually have some of the same feelings as others here about Chu Zhao. She was bratty and thoughtless as a maiden, and she rightly is consumed with properly filial guilt over her dad. But does she have to be so sure she is right when she constantly is not? Still bratty?
Well, now I think only Chen Du Ling could get away with this role as we move along into new permutations of the female-centric historicals. Doing the thought experiment, what sort of generic male hero is she meant to be like? The bold, somewhat careless risk-taking kind. The one who knows a lot of technical and strategic stuff about war. A gambler. Somewhat dangerous to be around, but in an action story I never mind it so much.
Why CDL? Because the woman can do cold to hot and obsessed. Not nice at all. Can you think of another actress who could compare?
This, at least they could have etended the length to 60mins if the episodes will be just 24. It's just youku's…
Oh! So interesting. The CCP put funding into microdramas, no idea why. But I have been wondering how other nation's industries also will react to a very popular and radically different format. Formats. There are so many different episode lengths and numbers of episodes. Its exciting.
AtC has actually made it onto NetFlilx' worldwide Top Ten, and no one is shrieking on this list? It is #10 on the totalized Netflix listing on Flixpatrol.
During Pursuit of Jade's first run, it was so annoying that patriots were crowing over the show making it onto the non-english list, tantamount to saying 'we beat you' to other Asian countries. So where are you guys today?
This is pretty darn good for a rating outside of the mainland!
Guan Xiao Tong and Li Yun Rui. These two are slowly becoming really awesome -- I dont know if it is their acting skills or the writer (probably both plus the director!) but several of the small scenes between them seem so finely judged -- the timing of the lines, the direc tion of their gazes, all of it paints a picture of two relatively calm, careful souls who are treading carefully around each other without saying aloud what is happening. Just like kids do. So REAL.
For me, #1 (So Ji Sub! spies!), #3 (Kim Ji Won! doctors!), #5 (I just loved Yook Sung Tae in the Haunted pPalace), and #8 (Lee Yu Mi and Kim Nam Gil!!! in dreams!).
eps1-4 Oh good! Straight to the heart of costume period Cdrama! Emperors dying, princes slain, usurpers abound!
I am seated and loving it. Nothing like Chen Du Ling for melo-fidelity to parents.
One problem, which I plan to ignore until later. The entire of the first episode looked AIRBRUSHED. It may have been a way to indicate memory of her previous life, but the switch to present doesnt include many 'realistic' textures. However if this actually were one of the new animated films I would be happy as a clam, because
THE PLOT IS GREAT!
We are all living through the absorption of enormous technical advances in visual media, and so things which SIGNIFY temporal situations and tone and type of production etc will probably take a while to sort out.
Personally speaking I am getting tired of romance, so this is like a big crisp ocean wave of political intrigue and heroism. Why not, for a change.
I am really enjoying this. Three still handsome veterans who are such consummate professionals, nicely said -- as actors and as spies; the villains, the gangsters and the police are all also performed in classic kdrama style. Such a treat.
it's ridiculous that people criticize GJZ or the writers for her crying over Ye Xian's death. they were very close…
Since I started all this, I may as well say that I never meant to criticize the veracity of JZ' lament or say that it was not in character.
It was a comment on the overall plot. I was interested in the attitude of the censors and writer on patriotism and military service currently.
In a story of military valor in my experience, which admittedly is modern and governed by the existence in my country of a volunteer force, a reaction from a military wife or friend would have tears and/or anger .
However either she nor YY come from a military family, nor was there currently conscription, nor was this a declared war at that point.
So yes, she took everything personally, being not just a powerful and experienced leader in her own sphere but a woman who feels deeply. No criticism there.
I make no excuse for judging from my own perspective. I like to think aloud in comments and do not pretend to know any answers at all.
Preserve the records of the aspiration. Remember the human beings, their frailty and passions
Its not bad for an ending, although a little grandiose. It preserves the fundamental truth of JZ and YY, they are a political power couple, Their true love makes them united in their projets as well as in (the understood) domesticity.
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I hate it as an insult to the actors' art. Voice is so important. How can two people act the same part? Do they disagree at times? Who decides?
I wonder if thats why so often some actors seem not to be moving their lips when they should, bec the dub doesnt match or bec they are trying to make it easier on themselves later when it has to..
They really churn out these series. Casting becomes easier if you can avoid some obvious non-fits by dubbing later.
Sometimes the voice actors are really wonderful; for ex the famous one who dubbed Dylan Wang in LBFAD..
The studios where they do all this work must be incredibly big and busy.
ATC is way high on the asia list which is great.
But the reason it is making a move on the worldwide listing is that it is being watched in a number of kdrama strongholds outside of asia -- Brazil esp (tons of subscribers), but basically Latin America and the Gulf States. ATC is at lower positions on these lists, which creates a low placement on the worldwide list, but also makes the move possible.
While I am really enjoying ATC for its own trueblood cdrama sake, I think its popularity is built on top of the other blockbusters recently, which are creating a shift in taste in crucial streaming markets.
but just want to pin down a random thought before it gets buried by the night in the bandit fortress.
Comparing the FL role here to other FL roles in general.
I usually prefer thoughtful calculating heroines who can stay out of danger. The impulsive and thoughtless ones who have to constantly be rescued from their own ill-considered actions are an affront to strong women everywhere, imo. So obviously I was happy with Prisoner of Beauty, Splendid Match and Pursuit of Jade to varying degrees.
I actually have some of the same feelings as others here about Chu Zhao. She was bratty and thoughtless as a maiden, and she rightly is consumed with properly filial guilt over her dad. But does she have to be so sure she is right when she constantly is not? Still bratty?
Well, now I think only Chen Du Ling could get away with this role as we move along into new permutations of the female-centric historicals. Doing the thought experiment, what sort of generic male hero is she meant to be like? The bold, somewhat careless risk-taking kind. The one who knows a lot of technical and strategic stuff about war. A gambler. Somewhat dangerous to be around, but in an action story I never mind it so much.
Why CDL? Because the woman can do cold to hot and obsessed. Not nice at all. Can you think of another actress who could compare?
Skillful use of a shower scene!
Its exciting.
During Pursuit of Jade's first run, it was so annoying that patriots were crowing over the show making it onto the non-english list, tantamount to saying 'we beat you' to other Asian countries. So where are you guys today?
This is pretty darn good for a rating outside of the mainland!
These two are slowly becoming really awesome -- I dont know if it is their acting skills or the writer (probably both plus the director!) but several of the small scenes between them seem so finely judged -- the timing of the lines, the direc tion of their gazes, all of it paints a picture of two relatively calm, careful souls who are treading carefully around each other without saying aloud what is happening.
Just like kids do.
So REAL.
Oh good! Straight to the heart of costume period Cdrama! Emperors dying, princes slain, usurpers abound!
I am seated and loving it. Nothing like Chen Du Ling for melo-fidelity to parents.
One problem, which I plan to ignore until later. The entire of the first episode looked AIRBRUSHED. It may have been a way to indicate memory of her previous life, but the switch to present doesnt include many 'realistic' textures. However if this actually were one of the new animated films I would be happy as a clam, because
THE PLOT IS GREAT!
We are all living through the absorption of enormous technical advances in visual media, and so things which SIGNIFY temporal situations and tone and type of production etc will probably take a while to sort out.
Personally speaking I am getting tired of romance, so this is like a big crisp ocean wave of political intrigue and heroism. Why not, for a change.
It was a comment on the overall plot. I was interested in the attitude of the censors and writer on patriotism and military service currently.
In a story of military valor in my experience, which admittedly is modern and governed by the existence in my country of a volunteer force, a reaction from a military wife or friend would have tears and/or anger .
However either she nor YY come from a military family, nor was there currently conscription, nor was this a declared war at that point.
So yes, she took everything personally, being not just a powerful and experienced leader in her own sphere but a woman who feels deeply. No criticism there.
I make no excuse for judging from my own perspective. I like to think aloud in comments and do not pretend to know any answers at all.
Burn the mansion of corruption.
Outlaw the cult.
Preserve the records of the aspiration.
Remember the human beings, their frailty and passions
Its not bad for an ending, although a little grandiose.
It preserves the fundamental truth of JZ and YY, they are a political power couple, Their true love makes them united in their projets as well as in (the understood) domesticity.