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Cats, actually. 🤣

Oh no I'm about to correct you, sorry. But the show isn't based on the novel thank god. The novel was written after the screenplay, although accounts differ on how much the author actually got before writing. And she has said multiple times that she did her own thing with the basic beats.

And that is all I will say I respect people's need to not want to know anything. :D

This comment section is exactly what I thought it would be 🤣🤣🤣

I am begging people to learn the difference between this kind of insane reality vs. any show we're actually supposed to take super seriously. The very fact that they're positioning the assassins as anyone to root for should tell you the kind of show you're getting into from the jump. If you can't handle characters whose morals are all over the place (and highly self-motivated) then stop watching. It's fine. Not every show is for everyone.

Fadel is the best I adore him and Kant is deliciously ruthless. I can't say I like him but I find him the most fascinating of all of them, even Fadel. Bison is meh to me and Style currently has more balls than sense. But it's only ep three there's still plenty of time for that to change.

I do really like the push/pull between Bison and Kant and I hope that it doesn't disappear once real feelings develop. Right now they're pretty evenly matched and I like that.

Fadel and Style are firing for me pretty well, I'm glad that the show seems to be taking more the 10 Things route to them than the OG Taming. I liked Patrick way better than Petruchio.

I like the dark comedy vibe a whole lot, and I'm having fun watching all these people treat each other like crap. Really hope it leads to them all still being insane but with the difference being that instead of doing anything TO each other they start doing anything FOR each other. Sue me, I'm here for escapism and I still want my happy ending, I'm just not expecting any of these dudes to turn into upstanding people because of love (or at least, I'm hoping they won't).

Or maybe he's hoping that Style *not* knowing will save his life.

At least you're not one of the ones mad at him for daring to betray Bison though. I guess there's that.

This kind of "oh you only like this because it has your faves" thing just makes it look like you can't handle disagreement, fwiw.

Personally I like it because the only character I really care about thus far is Fadel so I can just be amused by watching them do awful things to each other. My faves are immaterial babes I've watched crappier shows than this with actors I didn't even like just to amuse myself.

Isn't ThamePo on Fridays?

Does anyone have an idea what will get the Mon/Tues slot?

it's on wattpad. https://www.wattpad.com/1488969178-the-heart-killers-english-translation-prologue

Yes. Jojo said on twitter that it's based on 10 Things.

I wasn't going to watch this one because I read the novel and HATED it, but well. FOMO and all that.

But I will say this: if you had told me two months ago that I would be way more invested in Fadel and Style than in anything Kant and Bison are doing, I would have laughed in your face. But here I am, loving Fadel so much that I can hardly stand it and really rooting for him and Style (I kind of love Style too he's insane and I think Dunk is doing a great job) but caring very little about KantBison as a couple or individually.

I mean, Kant is fascinating to me, and just makes me wish I could see First playing a true villain. I expect people will hate him (I remember how bad it got with Sand during OF and he wasn't even a tenth as cold as Kant is, lol), but I do not. I am gleeful that he's actually way less invested than people want him to be. Right now the only thing that man cares about is his baby brother, and I love it. I did not expect it at ALL I want to study him like a bug.

I feel about Bison about how I expect most people feel about Kant: don't really care. Not sorry. 😝

But Fadel. He's so GREAT and Joong is doing so well. I was never impressed with him before this but now I am, I am SO impressed, if this story goes the same direction as the novel I might actually keep watching anyway just for him.

Well thank god. I couldn't care less about the lineup for next year lol.

They're not gonna do something stupid like postpone the next ep til next week for GMMTV 2025 are they?

But also I'm genuinely surprised how fast this show made me turn around on Ken. I think it is how hard he and the twins are fighting for each other - Ken is being stupid and thinking he's protecting them, and they are just desperately trying to get him to accept their help. I love how much they care about each other - it was kind of unexpected because I'm used to the bullies all hating each other, too.

I also think that it did a great job of showing with very little why Ken might have gotten caught up the way he did in the first place, and why he feels so trapped now with no way out. The actor playing him is doing a great job.

I don't think that's necessarily true. Something can be wrong and yet still understandable. Joker should not have stolen the ring. Save should not have given a bunch of people horrible investment advice so that they could be more firmly under Boss's thumb. Hope and Jack shouldn't have done some of the stuff they did while acting as Boss's debt collectors. But al of it was understandable.

I think that people regularly let their sympathy for a character make them decide that they are always right and thus anyone who upsets them is wrong. Or their dislike make them harsher on actions that they aren't as harsh on other characters about. But for me, even if I am furious I try to see where someone is coming. Personally I'm maddest at Save right now, but is he mor at fault than anyone else who did horrible things to get out of debt?

In the end the real issue is Boss. I really hope they don't pull some last minute "oh but he has reasons too" out. Because I do think at some point the reasons stop mattering. Boss isn't being threatened with death or worse if he doesn't do these things, after all. No one has his arms pinned behind his back and his face in the dirt.

I agree with you that Jack has every tight to be upset. He just found out that pretty much everyone he's been trusting lately is working to sabotage not just him but his community. And then he finds out that the reason Boss is untouchable now is because of Joke, right on the hells of his pseudo daughter being chucked off of a building. It's normal and right that he feels some kind of way about all of this. Especially since he was saying earlier that Joke wasn't stealing anymore, so it couldn't have been him that took the ring. It's blow after blow after blow right now.

I feel for Joke too - he did what he did for love and the price is already too high.

Yeah! I have heard that he likes to play on words too but that international fans like me can't quite get exactly how eloquent he is because some of the stuff he says can't be translated. I've always noticed how sweet he is, too, always rushing to praise others. Just a lovely person. ❤️

I kinda love that Khaotung was almost backhandedly complimenting Dunk ("Joong is so effortless, Dunk works hard") and First burst in like the Kool Aid man all "No I got this I'll take care of the compliments."

They're both lovely etc, but I am happy First took the reins to praise Dunk here because I see this weird sort of "one is talented, the other puts in work" a lot and it always feels like a subtle put down, lol. Like work ethic is great but also how about saying they're actually good at their job? And since Dunk gets shit on more than Joong I am more sensitive to seeing it done to him. And I love that First made sure to mention that Jojo thought so, too.

Ooh have you seen Wake Up Ladies? I keep debating that one because I've seen gifs and First's character is so expressive it kills me. Every face he makes is a reaction gif I swear. Plus Namtan who is one of my favorites too.

Nothing can make me watch The Shipper though. I wonder if they'll put one or both of them in an ensemble again this year - probably not a BL but maybe in one of those giant shows with a million guest stars GMMTV likes to do every year - think Peaceful Property, Midnight Museum, Home School. Something like that.

I think that they're both good at doing new things with roles that could be kind of samey. Which is great, but also I just hope it's not gonna become a habit that First gets stuck playing the LI to Khaotung's more dramatic characters every time. He's really really good at being subtle and I'm fascinated by his face and how it makes like 800 micro expressions and the way his eyes can convey a half dozen things at once but I do think that a lot of the hate he gets for being "unable to act" or "unable to keep up with Khaotung" are because of it. I'd like to see those people have to eat their words because I am petty. 🤣🤣

Do you mean Only Friends not The Heart Killers, since THK hasn't even started airing yet? Then again who knows lol maybe. Pretty convinced that that's happening though.

Um. I don't know if I want them doing My Beautiful Man. Maybe they could just not?

I am a First fan first and a human second, lol, and I do sometimes wish that they'd let First play the meatier roles again - he was so phenomenal as Sand but it was such an understated role and not the kind of thing that gets recognized, meanwhile Khaotung is always handed the big dramatic roles lately. And he's good at it, but I'd like to see it switched up.

But one thing GMMTV does not like to do is mess with what works, so I doubt that will ever happen. Cynically I think First will mostly play the love interest with no real meat to chew. Not that he won't make something of it anyway, he's amazing, but well. Akk sorts of roles for him are long gone, I think.

I do like him and Khaotung paired together - they work well together and have good chemistry and they clearly like working together. We'll see what the future holds.

My rule of thumb with all these shows is that as soon as I find myself not having fun, I'm out. I did it with OF and it made my experience a lot better.

People like to pit him against Khaotung It's nuts because they're both good, just because you like one more doesn't make them better. They can both be good in different ways! It's like how people pit the ships against each other here - it's so weird to me.

I actually quit going into the Only Friends page because it got so nasty. People just don't know how to be chill lol. I worry it will be like that for this one, too. I hope not.

You know what's funny? He and Khao performed Let's Try live and First hit that one high note perfectly. So he's definitely been practicing. :D

I almost felt like they did it to him on purpose in Only Friends but I don't know why they would.

I think in OF a lot of people got mad about the Boeing stuff and instead of keeping their anger to the character started attacking First. It was a lot. It will never not amaze me that people can be so awful about him (his voice, his acting, even his Kant tattoos) when he seems like one of the sweetest people alive (and also is an amazing actor, when people say he can't act I'm so baffled).