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Umm - I like that the answer to this will always be ambivalent :-)

We know LX was pulled into her force-field right from the beginning (?) on registration day itself (?)
I'm willing to bet that he recognised her ..
Her face from her 17th bday was etched in his mind.
That day she DID look like the 'princess' with that cake - with the shiny crown on it - and streamers and cheers and candles, the centre of attention and beloved daughter of King and Queen Zhu.

I think it was the PRIMARY reason he began to call her "princess" - sarky even derision at times, in the beginning mostly, and then it stuck ..

And then he called her princess in its multiple connotations .. including affection, admiration, as an object of desire etc.

(I want to make a list of the times he calls her "princess" and the possible connotation at that time. Also ZY reacts to it differently too .. depending on her mood and feelings and interpretation at that moment, from being upset, pleased, important, curious, loved and desired.

Her mates at the Base even pick up the term their "Boss LX" uses for her (note the times they call her 'princess' LOL)

So the back to brown hair might have been due to the dual force of Zhu Yun AND Prof Lin.
We see that LX DID have A LOT of respect for Old Lin (and vice versa .. they had a special connect.
~ LX 'knew' Old Lin's wife was also a proff and seemed like he had visited them before he went to prison .. when he was in college.
~ Old Lin fell back on LX when he would be stuck with the hardware and software for the Competitions and comfortably ordered him around and LX did not refuse the 'lowly' task of checking that all comps were in top order before start of sessions.
~ Recall how he MOSTLY was obedient for any help Old Lin asked him for .. except of course when he begged him to compete ;-D
~ LX was comfortable taking ZY (even though they had just had a serious fallout that landed ZY in the hospital) to meet Old Lin and ask such an important favour of his wife.

ANY WAY I digress ..
These slippery .. not that easy to pin down the thoughts of the characters .. is what makes L&P for me even more tantalising.

It is SOOOOOOOOOOO heartening that I am not the ONLY one 'sick from yearning' for a show that would 'cure' me of L&P.

Please post (DM) me if you found one.

However if it's any consolation ;-p in the hunt for "cure" I did find some other 'top notch' actors of C-Drama.

- Wang An Yu (he too is a flaming actor - and transforms his roles with magic)

- Jing Bo Ran (he's BRILLIANT in Road Home .. not sure about his other portrayals)

- Li Xian ( even thoughI totally disliked and dropped his top rated show - Go Go Squid - like a steaming cube of steel; I found him bursting with potential .. not sure if he's been picked for a quality drama though.
Apologies if you are one of the 200 + K squealing fansGGS - as per Viki)

- Hu Yi Tian (not bad .. the best role IMO he did was the complex character in Unrequited Love. While GGS2 Appledog's Time failed to hold my attentions due to sagging plot and lack of dramatic tension and lost in the woods kind of a script inspite of having created an exciting character list - Hu Tian's role was pretty well played .. I dropped the show .. But his role stayed in my head.)

it's on "dramacool" website (the largest collection - free - of Asian Drama)

Those of us who are completely under L&P's 'immobulus" spell (ref Harry Potter Wizardry) will languish all over the net looking for 'more' ....

Yes it was fun watching even though they we mostly BTS material.
Cause you get to see these TOP TALENTS at work.

The Smile has Left Your Eye (KDrama) /
Innocent Man /
LOVERS /
Beyond the Clouds /
Bloody Heart
Secret

BINGO!!! you made a VERY GOOD point about Xu Lina and Old Gao

;-p
I dropped WIFTY .. not anywhere near these two.

(at least it didn't hook me hello as these 2 did)

FOREVER LOVE had a nearer vibe (mostly in the beginning) .. although it got too preachy and goodie 2 shoes at times (which started becoming too often) .. and many of its ploy points were contrived and pasted on .. rather than being organic .. almost as though they were written on the fly.

LOL I agree with you .. washy experience too

I agree. TWO ABSO different DRAMAS.

I LOVED BOTH.

And here's the thing .. EACH had it's POWER and STRENGTH .. The shows delivered FULL BLAST what they set out to do.

10/10 for BOTH - for ace acting - story - script - direction - music and camerawork

Old Gao was materialistic and focused on money making and quickly reaching a 'lifestyle' that he craved (recall what he said when he was invited for dinner by Xu Lina in that fancy restaurant, ALL he could dream up was a want : the "lifestyle of the rich and famous").
He craved power and influence and even though he preached 'equality amongst colleagues' he operated and made no bones about who was the boss and decided as he pleased what the company should do.

Li Xun was a visionary - he was dreaming about how Tech could benefit humankind (the 1% cure rate for cancer was his DREAM) - he was on the mountain top already and seeing the future of TECH in the horizon dawning ..

Not once do we see Li Xun gape at 'money and power' .. what we see him doing is "avoiding the moneyed" / wary and suspicious of people with money who so often wanted to 'buy' him (FuZhio's dad .. Fuzhio himself / Xu Lina's dad .. Xu Lina herself) .. the ONLY person he made 'money transactions' with was his friend Ren-Di who was herself broke when she requested HIM to invest in HER BAND ..

He was sweet enough to to do that .. he VALUED her as a friend .. though he did not particularly like her music .. and thus probably didn't expect it to ever make it BIG ENOUGH to get him ANY profit).

We do NOT see him BUY anything of HIGH Value or GLITTER for Zhu Yun .. yeah .. a dinner (that too the ones he had for his base ) ; blue china roses were his splurge (LOL and Zhu Yun is happy BUT tells him to save up for their L&P); it's ONLY in the end .. when he has won back L&P and made decent money and become the HEAD of the company does he buy a posh HOME for themselves.

LOL ..
It's so interesting what different parts of the brain light up with the same show ..
The takeaways sound SO ALIEN to one's own experience of the show .. that you wonder were we talking about the same drama :-D

Then you know you are on a track perpendicular to the commenter and the ONLY point of intersection is that we both pressed enter on L&P on the VIKI selection menu - and that's all

He is misunderstood - as are MANY MANY MANY geniuses - geeks - nerds .. visionaries!!!
They aren't always attractive people either LOL

I am planning to write a LONGISH review on MDL about :
- Li Xun as experienced by his co-characters in the show
- Li Xun as experiences by drama viewers

If you were intently observing Li Xun's character (which in other words means watching Chen Fei Yu fill in the role) you would see the chasm of difference ...

Will notify here once that review is done ..

He is misunderstood - as are MANY MANY MANY geniuses - geeks - nerds .. visionaries!!!
They aren't always attractive people either LOL

I am planning to write a LONGISH review on MDL about :
- Li Xun as experienced by his co-characters in the show
- Li Xun as experiences by drama viewers

If you were intently observing Li Xun's character (which in other words means watching Chen Fei Yu fill in the role) you would see the chasm of difference ...

Will notify here once that review is done ..

oooooooooo thanks for this lead - I just read the MDL brief .. Will wait
She will shine if she get a capable actor - I haven't seen the actor cast with her

TRUE .. I saw this recco here (of YAMG) ..

Of Course Yang Yang acts well .. BUT the actress wasn't up my alley ..

Her character was CANDY like .. especially the way she was 'filmed' .. the camera angles used ended up making her look "cartoonish" (DOLL like .. you know those ones which open and close their eyes when you make them lie down or stand up) magnifying her already HUGE eyes - lips, pout and aegyo quality. Which is a turn off for me personally.

Secondly the script lacked tautness and wasted SO SO MUCH time on game-play which added zilch (IMO) to their character development ..
It was time wasted that could have been used to work on and unpack for us WHY Yang Yang's character 'chose' the other FL at college and "rejected" Doll-Eyes ..

It does not show the trajectory that made DOLL-EYES become a star whose face is flashed ALL over the city and has risen so high in the industry!!!
Is she product of media marketing .. and producing a celeb .. or a TRUE talent?? What dynamics played out in the making of her 'powerhouse' ..
NONE of that strength came through.

His Astrophysicist character's professional excellence and rise was show with GREAT clarity AND his struggle with choosing to stay or quit,

SO .. NOT at all at par with YAMG IMO.

honestly speaking .. I dropped it when I just couldn't bear one more "eye batting large lids' camera shot of the actress.

Thank you!!

I am planning to write a LONG PIECE of this "shallow and knee jerk" reading of Li Xun's character; with evidence from the show.

Am on slow rewatch mode .. and taking notes. It's THAT RICH a SHOW.
It's the first time I am doing so.
And I have watched at least 200 Kdramas in 3 years ;-p

Thanks for the recco .. keeping it for when I am ready to move from L&P

I am on a REWATCH mode of L&P and can't really seem to move on from this 'love affair' .. there is SO much beauty of craft to be found in it; in terms of acting, scripting, directing, music and sound track even

LOL .. goodness. We are kindred souls then.

I was getting so impatient with so many reviews which talked about being "bored" about FFDing, about dropping because there was nothing much happening, because it was a slow burn!!

I was like .. SERIOUSLY.

Then I read a feedback from a reviewer about not "getting" what they were talking about most of the time ..

That kind of made me think back on it and realize .. Oh Of course!! The "jargon" of IT and Computers and the Internet!!!

I hope you'll take a quick look at a review I left on MDL under L&P on this aspect .. so that some of the folks don't turn away because of a few negative reviews .. (you might need to sort the review comment under "most recent" for it to show up ;-p

Would LOVE to know what you think ;-p

Also I plan to write a few more pieces to dispel some of the "readings" made from the show of some of 'actions' and give my own as an alternative.

I was getting so impatient with so many reviews which talked about being "bored" about FFDing, about dropping because there was nothing much happening, because it was a slow burn!!

I was like .. SERIOUSLY.

Then I read a feedback from a reviewer about not "getting" what they were talking about most of the time ..

That kind of made me think back on it and realize .. Oh Of course!! The "jargon" of IT and Computers and the Internet!!!

I hope you'll take a quick look at a review I left on MDL under L&P on this aspect .. so that some of the folks don't turn away because of a few negative reviews .. (you might need to sort the review comment under "most recent" for it to show up ;-p

I was getting so impatient with so many reviews which talked about being "bored" about FFDing, about dropping because there was nothing much happening, because it was a slow burn!!

I was like .. SERIOUSLY.

Then I read a feedback from a reviewer about not "getting" what they were talking about most of the time ..

That kind of made me think back on it and realize .. Oh Of course!! The "jargon" of IT and Computers and the Internet!!!

I hope you'll take a quick look at a review I left on MDL under L&P on this aspect .. so that some of the folks don't turn away because of a few negative reviews .. (you might need to sort the review comment under "most recent" for it to show up ;-p