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Replying to cosmiccosmetics Nov 29, 2025
To play devil's advocate - the summary suggests that Jeongwon faced traumatic events due to being related to Kibeom…
So far Ha-neul seems to be a hindrance rather than more of a bad guy. I'm not sure if he'll join the dark side, but if he does, I'll be surprised. Se-mi is a grey area, but I see her ultimately being one of the drama's victims...

I completely agree, this is becoming my favorite daily drama, but I'd loved to see more exposition too.

Also: I lurk on NamuWiki too 👀
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Replying to cosmiccosmetics Nov 28, 2025
To play devil's advocate - the summary suggests that Jeongwon faced traumatic events due to being related to Kibeom…
This!!! I agree with this, I wish the screenwriter expanded more on Jung-Won's past instead of the 10-minute recaps.

Second half is exactly what I was trying to say. There are no good people on this show (except for Se-Mi and probably Ha-Neul.)
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Replying to Tia Nov 28, 2025
JW's greedy too. She's always been the ambitious type... she's just a villain protagonist. She did not want to…
She doesn't need to necessarily show off or shop 24/7 to be considered greedy. Her greed is not materialistic, greed can mean anything. You can be greedy for money, for clothes, for food, for a family, for love, lust, etc. That's why it's one of the 7 sins.

JW is nervous because her castle of lies can be toppled at any moment. But also, she uses her emotions to her advantage to manipulate people. All JW wants is for her life to get better. So when YC gave her the chance to live as her (temporarily), JW took it. And she really, really liked it. She loved it so much that she wanted to stay there forever, she didn't want this game to end. And then YC did her dirty multiple times, even stealing her chance to become famous, so JW decided to get even. And decided to embrace that ambition/greed- "I won't be a murderer's daughter anymore. I won't struggle anymore. The key to no longer struggling is by being YC. She has it all."

As I've stated more than once, JW definitely envies YC, this has been implied and basically confirmed in the show. YC had the better life, YC treated her like a servant, YC was rich and popular. And JW wanted that too.

However, I agree with the part that JW doesn't love herself. She's been through a lot, her feelings are valid. What she needs to do is heal first and foremost. But also... everyone in this show is messed up to a degree. YC is trash but has a wicked mom, so I feel slight pity for her. HR? Yes, she abandoned JW/SA, but clearly regrets it.
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Replying to aerum07 Nov 28, 2025
That assistant was very annoying. She missed the main point. But I knew it.One punch frm hyera he is a goner.…
Ahhh okay. I haven't watched it in a long time. I guess it is kinda fortunate that the son died then... 😅
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Replying to Tia Nov 28, 2025
I think the FL is pulling off the character well, but sometimes her acting comes off as awkward. She definitely…
Yes, I think so! (Also, I meant *PARK* Si-Eun, not Lee. Whoopsie.) As for the second girl... I watched Left-Handed Wife and The Two Sisters. HYJ somehow managed to be terrible in both dramas, which is impressive. 💀
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Replying to JeA Nov 28, 2025
I came to understand in such dramas the darker and more vehement the start and the hero(ine)'s vow for revenge…
Not all of them, but a lot of them... yes. This drama is all style and no substance whatsoever. I salute those who are still watching. 💀
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Replying to Adachi Nov 28, 2025
Compared to JaeIn from Queen’s House, this actress feels noticeably weaker. Still, playing a character like…
Exactly, grey/villain FLs are rare in daily dramas.
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Replying to Jean Nov 28, 2025
Can you guys recommend me a drama like this? With a rich family drama and revenge stuff. I also like morally gray…
Secrets and Lies is similar (villain FL, Shin Hwa-Kyung/Oh Seung-Ah), and so is Witch's Game (Jang Seo-Hee is the FL here.)
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Replying to Adachi Nov 28, 2025
I wouldn’t say I’m fully rooting for her, but I do understand where she’s coming from. She’s greedy, jealous,…
Very true, I also agree with this.
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Replying to aerum07 Nov 28, 2025
Title A Graceful Liar Spoiler
That assistant was very annoying. She missed the main point. But I knew it.One punch frm hyera he is a goner.…
If I remember, I don't think Yeo-ri knew Maya was her kid till she was about to donate the bone marrow, but I could be wrong. And Maya's treatment only got worse after Gaya died, so I'm not sure if it was a good thing...
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Replying to Tia Nov 28, 2025
I think the FL is pulling off the character well, but sometimes her acting comes off as awkward. She definitely…
Park Si-Eun was in a few daily dramas (not recent ones.) An actress I genuinely dislike is Ha Yeon-Joo... keep that girl away from the cameras! FOREVER!!! 😂 I literally won't watch a drama with her in it, idc.

But the FL here is not as bad as her... so like I said, I expect her to grow. If I wanted A+ acting in a k-drama, I'd watch a primetime one, not a daily lmao
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Replying to Tia Nov 28, 2025
I think the FL is pulling off the character well, but sometimes her acting comes off as awkward. She definitely…
Maybe that's the vibe she's supposed to give off. She's pretending to be someone else after all and is very, very manipulative. Like I said, I expect a darker turn with JW at some point. And sometimes she creeps me out, which is good... yet unsettling lol

But in general, she has chemistry with the other actors/characters (except for HN, but he's just boring overall! Yawn!)

She's not as bad as Park Si-Eun (I can't stand her) or Seo Hae-Won (she played Han Woo-Jung, the SFL in Secrets & Lies and she SUCKED!)

My opinion? FL is doing good but she needs a little more experience. Daily dramas are a good form of experience because you get to see the actors/characters grow. My opinion on Park Yoon-Jae flipped after I watched him in Queen's House, it'll probably happen here with the FL too. A lot of actors tend to improve in these kinds of dramas, so I'm... holding out hope, I guess? I like her.
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Replying to Tia Nov 28, 2025
JW's greedy too. She's always been the ambitious type... she's just a villain protagonist. She did not want to…
And I still think she's greedy. Two things can be true at once, ya know?
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Replying to aerum07 Nov 28, 2025
At first I was not sure so gave it some time. Fl's acting is so soSfl is doing good.
I think the FL is pulling off the character well, but sometimes her acting comes off as awkward. She definitely nails down the serious/spiralling scenes (the scene with JW & the dad in YC's apartment [I think] freaked me out, showing just how far she'd go to keep pretending to be YC.)

For me, it's her physical acting that seems awkward at times. That's my only problem, and it's a minor one at that. But daily dramas don't have the best actors in the first place, so I can overlook it for the most part.

SFL is definitely doing a good job, and their (FL/SFL) relationship feels very believable to me!
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Replying to Gabriel Nov 28, 2025
Am I the only one who just can’t warm up to CJW (the FL)? 🧐 Hear me out….I don’t dislike her for no reason,…
JW's greedy too. She's always been the ambitious type... she's just a villain protagonist. She did not want to be poor, hated the fact that she was called a murderer's daughter (despite her dad being framed), and always envied YC, who even stole her designs and got into a top art school. I don't find that too difficult to understand.

It was about greed and getting back at YC before the revenge plot (against HR) began.
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Replying to Tia Nov 28, 2025
I asked myself this. How do all these people easily travel to each other's houses? The Jins and Jus, I understand,…
I guess it's another k-drama trope I need to get used to. Penthouse made sense since all of the characters ended up living in the same building, but damn, if it isn't extra common in these daily dramas! Plot convenieces... lmao 😂
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Replying to aerum07 Nov 28, 2025
Title A Graceful Liar Spoiler
That assistant was very annoying. She missed the main point. But I knew it.One punch frm hyera he is a goner.…
I forgot about this! 💀

This drama was wild from the get-go, Yeo-ri literally married her uncle-in-law... wtf? Also, Gaya definitely let the abuse happen. He could've helped more. He didn't deserve to die, but he was spoiled rotten.

The way poor Maya was treated makes me angry!!!
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Replying to LovE385 Nov 28, 2025
Chairman Jin to Young Chae : "Did you minor in acting or somethin'?!" 😂🤣😭😝Why are the wealthy…
I asked myself this. How do all these people easily travel to each other's houses? The Jins and Jus, I understand, they likely live in the same city. But the Chas??? Really? Ya gotta love k-dramas, there's no sense of time or distance. 😂
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On A Graceful Liar Nov 28, 2025
Title A Graceful Liar Spoiler
Hye-Ra (Mrs. Hypocrite) pisses me off. Instead of slapping people and throwing tantrums, try using your goddamn brain to figure something out for once, you idiot! I'm so sick of her, ugh!

Chairman Two-Face (Tae-Seok) is creepy... the actor is doing an amazing job playing him. Mr. Waffler/Haneul? I no longer care about him. Se-Hun/Grey Knight? I'm hoping he stays with Ms. Crafty/Jung-won for real. Again, I love Gangsta Mama Nan-Suk, but damn if she isn't 1-dimensional af 😭 I love it AND hate it at the same time!

The way Chairman Two-Face GRILLED both Sly Fox (Young-Chae) and Ms. Crafty was scary... but impressive. I definitely see Dummy Dad dropping dead soon. Like I said, more people are gonna die because of this massively entangled world.

Side note: I love how the (rich) people in this drama actually *feel* rich and elegant. It doesn't come off as fake like it tends to in most daily dramas. It feels believable and authentic. That's one of the things I genuinely like about this daily. Kudos to the writer.

The Penthouse-type music at the end lmaoooo I love this drama. Ooooh, that preview! Somehow, I don't completely think that Sly Fox's seduction of Grey Knight will work. Rather, I see him becoming obsessed with Ms. Crafty instead. And Mr. Waffler, you ain't gonna do SHIT, man. How exactly are you gonna take down Chairman Two-Face? You have no plan and no motivation other than your teenage puppy love for Ms. Crafty. Go get a hobby instead of following her like a dog's tail.

I can't predict how any of this will end... but things are heating up now! (Hopefully this drama's ratings reach 10% soon.)
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Replying to Tia Nov 28, 2025
Glad I'm not the only one who dislikes Ha-Neul lol
Not quite, I think it's just a common trope in daily dramas. Sometimes the ML and FL work together for revenge, but other times the ML tries to stop the FL. HN isn't really doing anything here. He's more of a hindrance than a help to her.
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