FYI...the novel has a lot of S E X and description of their marriage life. it's actually quite funny reading about it b/c they experience up and downs in the bedroom like any normal couple. 1. when ML was drugged by his mother and cousin --- he was able to control himself and went back to FL's courtyard/chambers. however the drug was super strong that he quickly succumb to it. FL was so scared of him/his roughness that she fought him off. She even offered to bring in servants/ladies to help him relieve himself. ML does not want the attention by doing that and also his pride does not want any women to help him. in the end, he pleaded with FL to help him by giving him a handjob to get him off. she was like 'can't you do it yourself???' ML responded with '...i'm too weak, i can't feel my arms, you will have to help me. if you do this, i promise i won't do anything else to you...' FL was like my poor poor innocent pair of hands are dirtied by this act.
2. FL asked ML to step in and help her hometown by reasoning. ML was giving advice from his advisor to offer resistance anyways, but after some thought of the pros and cons, ML decided to lead his troops and help FL's hometown. By doing so, the night before ML leaves for battle, FL offered herself to him. FL was embarassed being naked in front of him...but he was like admiring every inch of her body. This is their first time. He tried to be gentle and not hurt her too much going in. However, b/c it's his first time as well, he got off too quick and she sort of laugh at it. He was embarassed about it but (in his head) vow to "punish her". Due to time, ML had to get ready and leave for battle. Before this, there were incidents where they almost did it, but FL is too scared of pain/roughness that she accidentally kick ML in the face.
3. after ML came back, he was eager to see FL. ML follow through with what he would do to FL. FL this time reminded herself not to laugh or mock him if he does finish early. however, ML was super vigourous and wanted her more than once to the point she was begging for him to stop. he also want her to tell him he's strong/the best during it.
4. lots and lots of S E X in other chapters... all that was mentioned will not be in the drama haha...so i guess that's why they have to find some other filler to fill in the drama version.
ML fell for FL first. ML is obsessed with FL after the first time they did it. he is able to separate FL from the Qiao family. ML loved first, whereas FL is always on guard, being super cautious. When FL realized that ML will still take revenge on the Qiao family, she left him to go back to the Wei Manor (she was with him on one his battles). ML thought she left him for good and went back to the Qiao family. He struggled with his pride for a bit and then went after her (in the rain, somewhat romantic in a way). ML panic and realized that he can't let her go or lose her. ML Zhe Yao / 折腰 yielded and gave in. He told FL that as long as the Qiao family does not betray and stay out of his way, he will not kill them. He also want FL to love/adore him the same way he loves her, to bear his children....FL was touched that he would let go of his revenge and she agreed to him. (the short version of the chapter in the novel.)
the drama depicts more of a livelier version of the lead characters. however, in the novel, FL is nothing like the drama. FL's position as the wife is clear and follow rules of the time. she does not berate him in front of his subordinates or speak out like that. she does not overstep her boundaries and go over ML. FL is only able to think quick and adapt was because of the first life she had (that she thought was a bad dream/nightmare but quickly realize that it's not ). From what happen in the first life, she was able to be prepare and in the know to change things. ML is a very strong macho type of man that will not entertain FL like in the drama. ML pretty much have the last say on everything. The only way FL could do is, her part as a good wife and filial daugther in law and the lady of the Wei Manor. She understand that she need to pacify ML's thirst for revenge by hoping that he will yield to her and eventually not kill the Qiao Clan. The novel is more realistic compare to the drama version.
The drama had changes but follow the novel's details here and there.
Grandpa Qiao basically went back on his words. This is a betrayal that cost the Wei Family men. Grandpa Qiao was…
Qiao family did what was right for the advantage of their family. They were not greedy governors that abuse power...but when it comes down to choosing sides or sacrificing for the sake of political power, they folded.
This has a very good start but I'm trying to understand the political decisions from 14 years ago that led to…
Grandpa Qiao basically went back on his words. This is a betrayal that cost the Wei Family men. Grandpa Qiao was tied in a political net and can't carried out what was agreed on, but he also did not send any news of the change to alert the Wei Family.
In the novel, the Qiao family just withdrew their alliance and stay quiet. Due to this, the Wei Men and army (Father and Oldest Son) died in battle. The Qiao family was not the direct cause of the Wei Family demised, but they play a part in it (not notifying them in advance of the changes so they could change their battle tactic). Grandpa Qiao know that the Qiao Family will be doomed/hated if the Wei family raises in the future.
Due to their error in communication, Wei Shao didn't plot revenge on them right away. He went after the general who killed his father and brother. He ordered death by a thousand slice/knife in which his enemy was granted a torturous slow death.
The Qiao Family are in his plans to exact revenge eventually, not like death but more like ruin the Qiao Family. Wei Shao's mother hates the Qiao Family. However, Grandma Wei has a more forgiving (not forget) attitude. Grandma Wei is more concerned about Wei Shao being consumed by the thirst of revenge (killing/violence/death) that she chose to forgave the betrayal and chose the marriage alliance. She was hoping the marriage will help WS less hateful. The Qiao family are county/city governors, not army background. Their county are in danger of being conquered/takeover by other strong forces. Due to this, they have no choice but to plead alliance with the Wei Family and by doing so, have a wedding to bound the family together. The older Qiao Son (Big Qiao girl's father) is more shady/aim for profit. The younger Qiao Son (Small Qiao girl's father) is more righteous and with more army background. However, they do not have the manpower of a large army to fight off invaders.
Fingers crossed the drama could stick close to the novel's plot and storyline. This novel is one of my fav to read/listen to audio.
Based on the novel, how bad is the Second Lead Syndrome?
Well they did lol…the supporting cash is all squeezed together. I hope the screen writer will some sense into it…but not hoping for perfection novel to drama adaption.
if you read the character descriptions above, it doesn't follow the novel at all, what novel did you read?
Only the FL, ML And SML description are close to the novel. The other characters are a mash up of 2 characters from the novel. It’s obvious the drama will not be able to include everyone exactly …but still hope they follow the main plot and turning points in the novel.
xiao qiao is her nickname and im guessing its the same for wei shao?
FL nickname is Manman. Xiao Qiao is what the author/people refer the sisters in term of age/seniority or to differentiate them. Double Xiao Lady due to the pair being known for their beauty in their county. Qiao Man is her given name in the novel.
For the ML, Zhong Lin is probably his courtesy name, which is given to men in adulthood. Only his close relatives…
Wei Shuo (or is is Xiao) story/background is taken from three kingdoms inspiration. From being a general to a duke and taking the path to emperor. Zhe Yao is possibly my favorite book by date when it comes to storyline, content, characters and plot! The last 2 chapters were pretty funny when Wei Shuo's soul got trapped in that cat he loathes.
For the ML, Zhong Lin is probably his courtesy name, which is given to men in adulthood. Only his close relatives…
i read the chinese novel so the way it's address is more of the time period. Da Xiao's husband Bi Gi calls her Ah Fan only and even after when they got married, it's still Ah Fan. Some folks are given nicknames depending on their personality when they are young. Man man is what Xiao Qiao is known for due to her unreasoning personality with her family. The Qiao sisters (from inspiration) married the same man. Whereas in this novel, the author used it in a different way to set the story's direction....which is pretty good!
When Wei Shuo and Xiao Qiao are married, Wei Shuo only think of her as the Qiao girl. It was only when he likes her and wants to be close to her that he started calling her Manman. He asked her once, your nickname is Manman...how come you never bring it up. She responded with 'you never asked...'
It's considered rude to address people you don't know by their given formal name. So back then people address by their family last name follow by the word Gentleman/mister and for the girls Lady.
xiao qiao is her nickname and im guessing its the same for wei shao?
Wei Shao is his given name for formality. This is name is used for formal addressment only (like when he is granted an official post by the government). Zhong Ling is his less formal name that only close family, relatives or loved ones address/call. He is also address as Er Long (Second man/boy) by Yu Er Huang. That's her nickname for him.
For the ML, Zhong Lin is probably his courtesy name, which is given to men in adulthood. Only his close relatives…
Xiao and Da is a differentiation for the Xiao daughters. Their dads are brothers and in Chinese family, they are see as ‘tang’ siblings instead of cousins ( like western culture, all are cousins). So small and big Qiao is what they are known to the society/city at the time. Qiao Man is the given name. Nickname Man man is a word sound from her given name but is given to her due to her domineering/ personality. Double words like Man Man is more like a nickname. I do not recall the author wrote/give Qiao Fan a nickname. Nickname is only for family or someone dear to use. Their given name is for formality/identity.
1. when ML was drugged by his mother and cousin --- he was able to control himself and went back to FL's courtyard/chambers. however the drug was super strong that he quickly succumb to it. FL was so scared of him/his roughness that she fought him off. She even offered to bring in servants/ladies to help him relieve himself. ML does not want the attention by doing that and also his pride does not want any women to help him. in the end, he pleaded with FL to help him by giving him a handjob to get him off. she was like 'can't you do it yourself???' ML responded with '...i'm too weak, i can't feel my arms, you will have to help me. if you do this, i promise i won't do anything else to you...' FL was like my poor poor innocent pair of hands are dirtied by this act.
2. FL asked ML to step in and help her hometown by reasoning. ML was giving advice from his advisor to offer resistance anyways, but after some thought of the pros and cons, ML decided to lead his troops and help FL's hometown. By doing so, the night before ML leaves for battle, FL offered herself to him. FL was embarassed being naked in front of him...but he was like admiring every inch of her body. This is their first time. He tried to be gentle and not hurt her too much going in. However, b/c it's his first time as well, he got off too quick and she sort of laugh at it. He was embarassed about it but (in his head) vow to "punish her". Due to time, ML had to get ready and leave for battle. Before this, there were incidents where they almost did it, but FL is too scared of pain/roughness that she accidentally kick ML in the face.
3. after ML came back, he was eager to see FL. ML follow through with what he would do to FL. FL this time reminded herself not to laugh or mock him if he does finish early. however, ML was super vigourous and wanted her more than once to the point she was begging for him to stop. he also want her to tell him he's strong/the best during it.
4. lots and lots of S E X in other chapters...
all that was mentioned will not be in the drama haha...so i guess that's why they have to find some other filler to fill in the drama version.
ML fell for FL first. ML is obsessed with FL after the first time they did it. he is able to separate FL from the Qiao family. ML loved first, whereas FL is always on guard, being super cautious. When FL realized that ML will still take revenge on the Qiao family, she left him to go back to the Wei Manor (she was with him on one his battles). ML thought she left him for good and went back to the Qiao family. He struggled with his pride for a bit and then went after her (in the rain, somewhat romantic in a way). ML panic and realized that he can't let her go or lose her.
ML Zhe Yao / 折腰 yielded and gave in. He told FL that as long as the Qiao family does not betray and stay out of his way, he will not kill them. He also want FL to love/adore him the same way he loves her, to bear his children....FL was touched that he would let go of his revenge and she agreed to him. (the short version of the chapter in the novel.)
the drama depicts more of a livelier version of the lead characters. however, in the novel, FL is nothing like the drama. FL's position as the wife is clear and follow rules of the time. she does not berate him in front of his subordinates or speak out like that. she does not overstep her boundaries and go over ML. FL is only able to think quick and adapt was because of the first life she had (that she thought was a bad dream/nightmare but quickly realize that it's not ). From what happen in the first life, she was able to be prepare and in the know to change things. ML is a very strong macho type of man that will not entertain FL like in the drama. ML pretty much have the last say on everything. The only way FL could do is, her part as a good wife and filial daugther in law and the lady of the Wei Manor. She understand that she need to pacify ML's thirst for revenge by hoping that he will yield to her and eventually not kill the Qiao Clan. The novel is more realistic compare to the drama version.
The drama had changes but follow the novel's details here and there.
In the novel, the Qiao family just withdrew their alliance and stay quiet. Due to this, the Wei Men and army (Father and Oldest Son) died in battle. The Qiao family was not the direct cause of the Wei Family demised, but they play a part in it (not notifying them in advance of the changes so they could change their battle tactic). Grandpa Qiao know that the Qiao Family will be doomed/hated if the Wei family raises in the future.
Due to their error in communication, Wei Shao didn't plot revenge on them right away. He went after the general who killed his father and brother. He ordered death by a thousand slice/knife in which his enemy was granted a torturous slow death.
The Qiao Family are in his plans to exact revenge eventually, not like death but more like ruin the Qiao Family. Wei Shao's mother hates the Qiao Family. However, Grandma Wei has a more forgiving (not forget) attitude. Grandma Wei is more concerned about Wei Shao being consumed by the thirst of revenge (killing/violence/death) that she chose to forgave the betrayal and chose the marriage alliance. She was hoping the marriage will help WS less hateful. The Qiao family are county/city governors, not army background. Their county are in danger of being conquered/takeover by other strong forces. Due to this, they have no choice but to plead alliance with the Wei Family and by doing so, have a wedding to bound the family together. The older Qiao Son (Big Qiao girl's father) is more shady/aim for profit. The younger Qiao Son (Small Qiao girl's father) is more righteous and with more army background. However, they do not have the manpower of a large army to fight off invaders.
Fingers crossed the drama could stick close to the novel's plot and storyline. This novel is one of my fav to read/listen to audio.
When Wei Shuo and Xiao Qiao are married, Wei Shuo only think of her as the Qiao girl. It was only when he likes her and wants to be close to her that he started calling her Manman. He asked her once, your nickname is Manman...how come you never bring it up. She responded with 'you never asked...'
It's considered rude to address people you don't know by their given formal name. So back then people address by their family last name follow by the word Gentleman/mister and for the girls Lady.