Is this draggy? I'm craving an investigation drama but I'm hesitant about this one
Case-of-the-week at the beginning, but there's an overarching story that spans over it and it takes whole episodes towards the end. They practically abandon normal cases and focus on the one that concerns them personally.
Ok, is there anything similar to this drama? A combination of chess-like power struggles, flawed characters and sophisticated visuals (and I primarily mean visuals)? I'm fine with jdramas too.
there were villains I had more sympathy for than for Jung Hee (on my defence, some of them had very sharp cheekbones). When I thought he can't fall any lower, it turned out:
1. his fighting skills suck too,
2. he tried to kill an innocent plant,
3. abandoned his great plan to earn a new brave future for his children to run away with his ex-lover AGAIN, and
4. managed to forget he's wired and get her killed AGAIN. (Although she saw that coming.)
And look who's there to take the blame one more time.
Was I the only one who wondered what happened to all these gifts and letters she made for the coworkers? Especially…
Were it personalized goodbye letters? maybe it was only name cards, so people in the office weren't suspicious of anything and just thought she wanted to be nice (or more likely: did what she's supposed to do, since she's a temp and if bringing everyone hand made cookies isn't her job what is)? Or trusty Ki Taek could hide them.
But now I'm anxious they will resurface again and lead to firing her. Or everyone.
(Speaking of anxious, can someone please fix that tin door, they're giving me OCD every time I think of this drama.)
Okey, so after everyone said to me "Watch this drama, it's perfect", i did as i was told. Now i…
I guess it's just a thing with kdramas, they don't try to be extra twisty or suspensful with 'who's who' but instead focus on motivations and this eerie feeling that Vampirella described. Gaksital is similar in that respect. I watched both those dramas thinking no, no way it could be that simple. And it was.
Is Tunnel going that way too?
Honestly, I don't get the bad comments and low rating (on DL) because personally, I'm very fond of this…
Lurking is a thing, even on multiple sites and those places have different level of discussion. It doesn't take years to notice. It's not like everyone makes a MDL account to celebrate watching his or hers first Asian drama. I wonder how you came to fake accounts from that.
wow. i think this might be the next goblin for me. love it. i get the feeling that only Se Joo is able to see…
he can touch red beans.
/Unless it's the act of throwing which charges them with some apotropaic power, ghost shouldn't be able to touch red beans. It's like a warewolf spreading a mustard on a certain sandwich with a silver knife. Or a vampire asking for an extra serving of garlic next to him and splashing his ketchup into tiny crosses on top. [That theory isn't bulletproof, because it is possible for a story to subvert usual expectations. I believe it's not a case here though.]
They're using a bait of GHOSTwritter to fool you. He's very much human. We saw him getting a job and interacting with the publisher. It's in the publisher interest to keep our writter in dark, they're trying to pretend those manuscripts just magically appear, he's distracted, stressed out, there's nothing to worry, just keep going and bring profits to the company. Ghostwritter plays along and has fun doing so. He even says something along the lines 'should I toy with him longer'. He hides, he strolls around, he likes looking into people's closets.
Possibility B: there's some possessing going on, similar to that young fellow and the butterfly god in Goblin.
so it settled on 60 minutes but somehow got even slower.
lol it really seems to be. But it makes me yearn something like Legion or Mr Robot. Slow works for me in movies very well, even in short series, but not in 16 episodes drama.
Slow also calls for high quality writting, it gives you time to savour every line (or roll eye really hard). Not saying it's bad.
I must have jinxed it for myself comparing it with Goblin.
/also: slow-paced show + hyperactive, extremely irritating supporting character like Se Joo's publisher = headache. It just doesn't mix.
it's going consistently up if it's worth anything. It started really low, maybe even in high 6? I guess first four episodes or so weren't that great, but now it's solid.
I guess they either aren't or it's not practiced to remove someone else reviews forcefully, because there's always a comment posted by one of the moderators encouraging the OP to delete it him/herself, repost as a comment or post as an episode review.
Generally those kind of reviews tend to get burried anyway (so what's the point of writting them).
I'm sorry I can't see what everyone else sees in this drama. The plot is all over the place, the pacing…
*just tuning up to let you know that thought-out critique is appreciated and not everyone reads only first sentence and gets defensive because someone dares to say something negative*
I dropped this show some time ago, but still read comments to see whether there's anything worth coming back and fastforwarding. At first I was enthusiastic enough to watch it raw or half-subbed, but soon started to skip one filler plotline at time, which by episode 9 left me with maybe 10 minutes of screentime devoted to two main characters per episode. Maybe less. So whenever that person who wrote below that all those counterparts will fall into their respective places eventually and settle like a broken kaleidoscope feels like enlightening the rest of us, I'm ready for any wall of text.
For now I see this mess as a consequence of two choices: 1. not to delve into generic chaebol family drama by finishing mysterious harasser plotline really fast, 2. for once saving everyone from having a SLS on Ji Soo by making his characters useless and unlikeable (cutting some of love triangle angst with it). That's a feat. Both choices were commendable and it worked in both cases, just backfired. They could result in all this you mentioned and more, but were swallowed by fillers which in some cases fail to bring even comic relief.
Bonus poll time: which of the following Hyung Shik's drama had the lowest quality overall despite him having a well written character delivered with charisma and a variety of quirks?
a. High Society
b. Hwarang
c. SWDBS
Pick one.
I loved the cinematography in this! Really beautiful costumes as well. I've previously seen 3 different adaptations…
That's a peculiar ending and it's not faithful to the book nor to the other adaptations. But the thing is, the whole movie devoted much more screentime to Valmont than it did to marquise de Merteuil, it pushed the balance to his and Madame de Tourvel's side of the story. Marquise barely got any closure at all, let alone the original one, while Madame de Tourvel got one (being a teacher; even here she comes first in cast list!). It's a pity, because her false reputation was such a huge part of her persona, so without shattering it in the end, it feels somehow empty. That version took many liberties, but that one is the hardest to swallow for me. I still liked the first part. I think the energy of the main pair was captured well, this sense of idleness and corruption, something feline.
/For the record, I remembered that Forman's version doesn't have a public humiliation scene neither. Cecile marries the old guy anyway, marquise watches it from behind (a little down from Valmont's death), as does chevalier Danceny (disspassionately, flirting and laughing with some random girls).
I still think they are. It's not definitive she has this terminal illness mentioned at the beginning, just some stomach hurt that requires an operation. Doctor was too suprised to see her at the hospital and even at the meeting he seemed clueless.
Need to rewatch the trailer.
I think I spot Aoki Munetaka, but I'm not good with faces.
1. his fighting skills suck too,
2. he tried to kill an innocent plant,
3. abandoned his great plan to earn a new brave future for his children to run away with his ex-lover AGAIN, and
4. managed to forget he's wired and get her killed AGAIN. (Although she saw that coming.)
And look who's there to take the blame one more time.
But now I'm anxious they will resurface again and lead to firing her. Or everyone.
(Speaking of anxious, can someone please fix that tin door, they're giving me OCD every time I think of this drama.)
Is Tunnel going that way too?
/Unless it's the act of throwing which charges them with some apotropaic power, ghost shouldn't be able to touch red beans. It's like a warewolf spreading a mustard on a certain sandwich with a silver knife. Or a vampire asking for an extra serving of garlic next to him and splashing his ketchup into tiny crosses on top. [That theory isn't bulletproof, because it is possible for a story to subvert usual expectations. I believe it's not a case here though.]
They're using a bait of GHOSTwritter to fool you. He's very much human. We saw him getting a job and interacting with the publisher. It's in the publisher interest to keep our writter in dark, they're trying to pretend those manuscripts just magically appear, he's distracted, stressed out, there's nothing to worry, just keep going and bring profits to the company. Ghostwritter plays along and has fun doing so. He even says something along the lines 'should I toy with him longer'. He hides, he strolls around, he likes looking into people's closets.
Possibility B: there's some possessing going on, similar to that young fellow and the butterfly god in Goblin.
Slow also calls for high quality writting, it gives you time to savour every line (or roll eye really hard). Not saying it's bad.
I must have jinxed it for myself comparing it with Goblin.
/also: slow-paced show + hyperactive, extremely irritating supporting character like Se Joo's publisher = headache. It just doesn't mix.
Generally those kind of reviews tend to get burried anyway (so what's the point of writting them).
I dropped this show some time ago, but still read comments to see whether there's anything worth coming back and fastforwarding. At first I was enthusiastic enough to watch it raw or half-subbed, but soon started to skip one filler plotline at time, which by episode 9 left me with maybe 10 minutes of screentime devoted to two main characters per episode. Maybe less. So whenever that person who wrote below that all those counterparts will fall into their respective places eventually and settle like a broken kaleidoscope feels like enlightening the rest of us, I'm ready for any wall of text.
For now I see this mess as a consequence of two choices: 1. not to delve into generic chaebol family drama by finishing mysterious harasser plotline really fast, 2. for once saving everyone from having a SLS on Ji Soo by making his characters useless and unlikeable (cutting some of love triangle angst with it). That's a feat. Both choices were commendable and it worked in both cases, just backfired. They could result in all this you mentioned and more, but were swallowed by fillers which in some cases fail to bring even comic relief.
Bonus poll time: which of the following Hyung Shik's drama had the lowest quality overall despite him having a well written character delivered with charisma and a variety of quirks?
a. High Society
b. Hwarang
c. SWDBS
Pick one.
I told you so.
I still liked the first part. I think the energy of the main pair was captured well, this sense of idleness and corruption, something feline.
/For the record, I remembered that Forman's version doesn't have a public humiliation scene neither. Cecile marries the old guy anyway, marquise watches it from behind (a little down from Valmont's death), as does chevalier Danceny (disspassionately, flirting and laughing with some random girls).
Need to rewatch the trailer.