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for the first time I'm thankful for that blurring technique.

can you please put a spoiler tag?

You both made a great job explaining this :D

no, no, it's not horrible! It's just bizzare. And it seems to take inspiration from the worst thing in LOST for some reason. I've spent few days upon finishing it scratching my head in disbelief and occasionally having random fits of rage trying to put some sense into this, but good parts were still worth it.

Lol, no hate on my part, I was mostly paying attention to his facial expressions, because it always cracked me up. Him petting an imaginary, CGI-ed fox like it was the most natural thing in a world - priceless. But I'm confused to this day how and why has he fallen for FJ after all that talk that he never saves anyone, couldn't care less about thousands of girls who are trying to pull the same trick on him with having some debt to pay back or just hanging around in hope of being noticed. She did exact same thing, didn't she? So when did that happen...?

what is sad is that Heirs at least made a coherent theme with those candyfloss sweaters and all.

Why would he have to use them for anything? And who to fight with? His father? It was never a superhero story.
And what have ratings to do with anything?

I only watched first 20 eps, fast-forwarded through early 20s, skipped straight to 25 and stopped at 28 or so. Dong Hua Dijun went to seclusion so I lost motivation.
Thank you for reminding me about Demon Princess, I somehow forgot about her, but she was an exception here. Bless her soul. I meant that fox girl who seduced 2nd demon prince and became his queen, a princess in Sea Realm who wanted to marry Heavenly Prince and so on. But mostly Sujin.
So I take back all women are bad here. Fox mother was probably alright too. And a girl who was someone's past lover in Heaven and hanged out with Feng Jiu and Dong Hua's attache(?).
I think what bothers me it precisely that they're a plot device, a poor one. I could be funnier if they had different motivations and agenda, not just plotting against heroine. There are so many different realms, the makers put so much effort in making them stand out, but this doesn't lead into anything. Idk.

@krystaljung Was Xun Nu the name of the future Demon Queen, that one in black and red clothes, with a headpiece of tiny golden branches? She set herself as a rival from a very start, yes. But she won, kinda. Only to have more rivals to deal with, because he didn't care for her. It's just saddens me that the storymaker, no matter which one, sees the relationships between women mostly in a light of rivalry.

But why…? The rivals are represented as though they were a threat for the heroine, not human beings. They mostly care for one of male leads, deceive him into marriage, he's forced to agree, treats them with contempt and cruelty, but they still love him and keep plotting…? Is it a thing in BL (some residues left from the plagiarised work) to have all women portrayed this way?

That's why it's a metaphor, because the rage takes a physical shape of blades while following the same formula as other dramas and giving an impression that they differ substantially by means of giving each of them a specific gimmick.

It is by all means normal coming of age story, but we don't see that much of it done right. I feel this one was comparatively low in annoying tropes, characters seemed normal and real, and the plot was moving forward without exaggerated chaebol plotlines, angsty separations, noble idiocy and so on. Feelings were developing in a natural way. And leads were beyond cute.

True. I hoped it get better with time, but it's just not my thing.

I still can get into romance part and can't stand all female rival characters and their portrayal. Only Dong Hua keeps me considering to keep watch this, but even his story feels unmotivated and empty. What's so special about Feng Jiu anyway?

It clearly was a metaphor more than a part of consistent, supernatural worldbuilding though. I saw it back then in a starter pack of similar dramas and they all seemed the same: a distressed, traumatized CEO with a gimmicky weakness he manages to overcome with a help of his love (duh). Be it a claustrophia (of an elevator variety), alexia, or prickliness and inability to control his rage, it didn't matter that much.
But how do you feel about his exquisite sense of smell? It was delightfully weird.

There's a special department in Samsung devoted entirely to distributing mobiles to those poor kids so they could become useful members of a society one day. They deserve a good start too!
On a plus side, at least she wears a lot of her school uniform at the beginning (to earn a place in an infinite number of coats party later).

Nine:... is highly regarded for its tight and clever writting, but I couldn't get into it. I like this one better.

This drama requires a proper mindset. Who says it was ever meant to be innovative? It's a slow, low-attention fantasy for stress-out and overworked. Angsty, ominous, but overall cheesy, just another gimmicky romcom using trusted and true means. It could have been much better (them chaebols...), but is not that bad as you can think from reading the comments. I needed months to finish it, but I'm glad I did.
I like how the past arc seeps through and stays somehow relevant almost till the end. It has this dream-like quality and engages more and more people, as if they shared a common dream like it was the most natural thing in a world. At some point the shows manages to be ambigous which line is real and how they're affecting each other.

Bonus question for those who finished it: does anyone feel like fixing a synopsis? Was it suggested in a drama that she's from Joseon era or not? Would it be a spoiler? She's neither transportorted to modern times nor longlived, but from what I remember the show wasn't clear about her identity till the middle or so.

Who said something about sexism...? Noona romance isn't anything new, with age gaps even wider. If the situation was the other way around, the mayor problem reallistically speaking would still be one party already having two kids (but he doesn't seem to mind). And as it's a kdrama it's bound to follow some schemes: cheating husband and father of two is more likely to get a redemption than kick in curb (seriously, Eun Hee can just take him as far I'm concerned).
I'm of 'age is just a number' party myself, but I disagree that what matters is looks, but maturity. That's cryptoagism, it perpetuates to same idea you seemingly despise.
And frankly, with all due respect [why am I even writting this, there's nothing wrong about it] Go So Young looks her age, early 40, not 30. She's not one of those actress who can pull a 10 year rejuvenation. Just stating a fact.

I needed a rewatch to even acknowledge he was a second lead there. Still not buying it 100%.

fear not, an army provides a need for constant rotation of a new faces.