I think there is some writing sloppiness emerging towards the end - they seem to have run out of dialogue and…
Yup. Plus, I don't know why such a big deal is made out of her Fu connection. That family's women tried to kill her, marry her off as a dead woman, men did nothing to save her. Nobody came after her to inquire about her. Why is she supposed to cry or think about their feelings now when she even changed her household to Xie. I think it's inconsistent for FL to think about Fus when she cut them off from her life a long time ago. What about the new life she promised she'd build with ML & all the buddies etc.?
FL is just shown giving lecture now, she's turned into the mother ML never had.
I can't tell which way is up with this comment. I can't even tell if you're being serious. So, you know what the…
Less than zero romance between leads & FL has turned into the mother ML never had. I forwarded the last 2 episodes because it's exhausting to watch these 2 & their self-created, non-issue 'problems.' Not a single scene of the entire bunch (FL-ML-buddies-Sen etc.) chatting & eating together like they used to - the drama wants us to side with FL & think yes, everything is bad in this capital, not worth living here! That it turns people into evil, restless souls.Since when was ambition a bad thing? Also, please don't tell me ML & FL are busy 'fighting the good fight' against corrupt people - that was never the hook of the show - the hook was this couple whose only scenes in capital have been squabbles or being non-communicative & zero romance. I'm unhappy with it, that's all.
This is going to be the shortest rant ever: ML's goatee is courtesy 100-day mourning period, not passage of time. The leads have been in capital for a year. We are not getting any more years of this couple's advancement till the ending, where presumably they'll show the leads with a daughter in that god forsaken border town Ganglin doing their own thing & being 'happy' which is anti-climactic after all that this couple & his buddies have been through.
The idea that you have to leave everything to be happy is such a defeatist attitude in life & a copout in this drama, after all the buildup to this point.
On one hand, FL envisions ML's future as a regional commander or Marquis or Chancellor (Ep.28: her talk with Yu lady), BUT she also does not understand what it takes to get there - ML is not an evil guy, so why is she lecturing him all the time?
FL did not have to make any tough decision in life, she hasn't seen hunger or poverty or humiliation from strangers the kind ML has seen, all that happened to her in a privileged existence was that her grandma wanted to kill her & Zuo widow wanted to kill her & now Yus want to kill her. Every single time, ML came to rescue her! And she knows he killed a guy right in front of her to protect her (that officer in Ganglin). She has never had to kill anyone on any one's orders or to protect loved ones, she hasn't been on the frontline of battle & she is not the one in court answerable to king every single day.
It's a drudgery to watch their interactions. There is no spark or romance between this newly married couple in upcoming episodes, they have not even smiled properly since the wedding (which took 5 years separation & a cold meetup, btw), in fact he is drowning under the burden of protecting her & she is rejecting him (Ep. 32 trailer: loneliest birthday fireworks ever). There is too much unnecessary drama created to just pass an episode. This is one special king who only has ONE GUY to work on EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN - be it salt payment, grain production, drought relief, reforms, rooting out financial corruption, finding murderers, and also keeps testing him (which I don't even take seriously anymore). I know the last arc is about how Yus are brought down, BUT when nothing serious can ever happen to the leads - even the king's commands are for appearances & to gauge ML's loyalty - the stakes are never high or real. The drama would do better to show us the leads having a good time in between all this salt reform / corruption / king is in bad mood today / mom died / Wu died, who died, etc.
The only arc of interest is how Wu concubine is going to dump Shameless/ SML & how SFL will ruin herself even further!
There's nothing of interest in the main leads or where they end up anymore.
I got the impression that he wasn't reinstated yet. He was wearing "casual" clothes while meeting the…
Her husband had been fired from job - relegated to commoner status for mismanaging the money delegated to him for a task, this was done by an 'angry' king in front of a full court, unless the king gives reasons / announces that ML is restored & why is he now incharge of drought money when he couldn't handle mausoleum money - because courtiers would've questioned that too, how can his wife be standing in dowager's chamber with the rest of the elites. It was wrong to show it without a buffer scene of reaction from courtiers & Yus to the news.
That invite was to a banquet. No one invites a '3 county register' to inner chamber of dowager's unless her husband is a top courtier - which ML wasn't anymore - in public / court. I think there should've been a scene announcing the restoration of title & showing reactions of courtiers & Yus before showing FL in that chamber in last scene.
Cut her some slack! She's playing the cards she's dealt in life. And FL did not save her from anything. In fact…
Thanks for replying. I think there should've been a scene showing reaction of the Yus and the court. ML was demoted to 'commoner' by 'angry' king in front of courtiers - that's not even a demotion, that's a firing from job. So for him to be reinstated, courtiers would've asked how did he get the favor back? Because on the face of it, nothing has changed - court thought he was spending more than 100K teals on mausoleum & king got angry & that's why he got fired. So I'm sure courtiers should've asked king why are you giving job back (plus drought money job) to a guy who didn't handle the last job or money as per your instructions?
Especially after Yus thought they'd won against this couple, when ML's status is restored, no one reacts to the news, no one questions the king, there should've been a scene, it was extremely jarring to see FL at the banquet without any scene to cushion her husband's & her own restored status.
Cut her some slack! She's playing the cards she's dealt in life. And FL did not save her from anything. In fact…
@peachblossomgoddess forget about this issue. Tell me why wasn't there a scene announcing ML's reinstatement in court & also as caretaker of drought effort? Plus, a scene of Yus reaction to such an announcement. At the very least, Yu lady should've shown surprise to see FL in the dowager's inner chamber with other females of elite families. I thought it was jarring to just jump to a scene showing how dowager was thoughtful of FL without showing first how she got there when her husband had been turned into a commoner in front of court & all his titles taken away. Because I don't think she would've been invited to dowager's event her unless she was still the wife of an approved official.
Why are some people saying they will divorce 😭 that’s really not needed
She promised him on wedding night that she'll stay devoted to him in this life. Unless she meant she'll stay devoted from far away, I doubt she'll leave him.
writers have to introduce a new villain or topple the Yu's for a little bit. Them continually starting fires and…
Yus are being stretched out to be the harbingers of everything that is corrupt in court, and they are only coming after this young newbie couple again & again, only because king favors ML to get things done during his new reign. Their paths should not even cross but just to upend one guy (ML) all the scheming chaos is initiated every 2 episodes by just one powerful couple! I wanted ML to travel to drought areas & then salt reform areas to check on stuff - as a change in scenery / set pieces - while FL accompanies him, but I don't think we are leaving the capital before this couple goes back to probably to that deadbeat border town of Ganglin (where they shouldn't end up IMV!)
yeah I also found it strange that they didn’t include that scene. I imagine it went something like the emperor…
There should've been a scene / announcement shown to viewers before the last scene - it was very odd to see FL in dowager's inner chamber without any buffer scene to show / declare the reinstatement of ML who will now head the drought effort too.
i don't like miss wu . miss xie saved her and she is using her name for her survival against miss xie to their…
Cut her some slack! She's playing the cards she's dealt in life. And FL did not save her from anything. In fact FL should not have butted into that Wei issue at all - FL thinks simply because she was able to cut off & run away, & make a life for herself, everyone else can too - well, FL was nearly killed, declared dead & married off as a dead woman BEFORE she made her escape - and nobody hounded her in Ganglin after she separated from family (except Zhou widow) - till her dad found out about her in capital. She thinks everyone will find an honest guy like ML who will not sell a woman off for money or revenge or keep the promise to a parent to take her to another place safely.
Wu concubine was brought to capital by her aunt for an advantageous marriage, BUT that didn't stop that same aunt from defaming her own niece THREE TIMES just to latch her to some guy (ML, Wei & now Yu). Wu was groomed to be a concubine. I think once Yu household starts to fall, Wu concubine will come out of this attachment & go make something of herself in Anzhou etc.
Ep. 27: Loved it. Loved how ML & FL worked as a team - with the help of a generous king.
I have a question: how did ML get his job back after being relegated as a commoner - there was no scene between Yus celebrating his downfall, king telling him in private that he was putting him in charge of disaster relief & then Sec. Tian praising ML for his mausoleum move, and suddenly, the last scene shows FL in the dowager's chamber with all the other elite wives, how could she attend it if her husband had been publicly given a dressing down & removal of titles? She was even hiding from the merchants when stepping out of the house & he was wearing a bit normal clothes. So if he is restored, when was he restored & if he is restored, why isn't there a scene of court hearing about it or of the Yus flipping?
I would've guessed that his reinstallation would be BIG news for Yus & needed to be explained. And btw IF Sec. Tian knows ML played a game, surely dowager can also guess she got played?
Ep. 25: Loved the episode from start (ahem) to finish.
I watched all episodes of KTTPH as well, but I did not care for the characters or what happens to them the way I'm invested in this drama. Solid stuff.
Where is Mr. Chongsi btw? Isn't he supposed to help ML in creating revenue stream for grains & do salt reform? Shameless/ SML being in revenue bureau can't be a good thing btw. FL looked v good in that turquoise blue dress on second day of marriage (when ML has had a bad day at the office), didn't lead to any romance though.....
Yes exactly. FTY is ignorant of court politics and dynamics and her moves to get what she wants are very aggressive.…
Me too. I don't want them in Ganglin. In fact, I want them to travel as part of checking whether salt reforms are being implemented or not - that kind of a job has the benefits of a title, without the perils. They won't have to stay in capital all that much, but will still have a house & contacts there, as well as in Ganglin. And have lots and lots of kids along the way.
Bcz In the banquet of Grand Empress Dowager, FTY & ZL have offended him. & the whole banquet situation…
Yeah, BUT king selected Chongsi only because his tutor recommended him, not because Ministry of Personnel had put forth 2 names. Even if he finds out that FL went to tutor, he may mind it, but he based his decision on tutor, not FL or ML. If he starts minding who is doing what behind his back, then he'll mind everyone in court, now won't he?!
FL is just shown giving lecture now, she's turned into the mother ML never had.
The idea that you have to leave everything to be happy is such a defeatist attitude in life & a copout in this drama, after all the buildup to this point.
On one hand, FL envisions ML's future as a regional commander or Marquis or Chancellor (Ep.28: her talk with Yu lady), BUT she also does not understand what it takes to get there - ML is not an evil guy, so why is she lecturing him all the time?
FL did not have to make any tough decision in life, she hasn't seen hunger or poverty or humiliation from strangers the kind ML has seen, all that happened to her in a privileged existence was that her grandma wanted to kill her & Zuo widow wanted to kill her & now Yus want to kill her. Every single time, ML came to rescue her! And she knows he killed a guy right in front of her to protect her (that officer in Ganglin). She has never had to kill anyone on any one's orders or to protect loved ones, she hasn't been on the frontline of battle & she is not the one in court answerable to king every single day.
It's a drudgery to watch their interactions. There is no spark or romance between this newly married couple in upcoming episodes, they have not even smiled properly since the wedding (which took 5 years separation & a cold meetup, btw), in fact he is drowning under the burden of protecting her & she is rejecting him (Ep. 32 trailer: loneliest birthday fireworks ever). There is too much unnecessary drama created to just pass an episode. This is one special king who only has ONE GUY to work on EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN - be it salt payment, grain production, drought relief, reforms, rooting out financial corruption, finding murderers, and also keeps testing him (which I don't even take seriously anymore). I know the last arc is about how Yus are brought down, BUT when nothing serious can ever happen to the leads - even the king's commands are for appearances & to gauge ML's loyalty - the stakes are never high or real. The drama would do better to show us the leads having a good time in between all this salt reform / corruption / king is in bad mood today / mom died / Wu died, who died, etc.
The only arc of interest is how Wu concubine is going to dump Shameless/ SML & how SFL will ruin herself even further!
There's nothing of interest in the main leads or where they end up anymore.
That invite was to a banquet. No one invites a '3 county register' to inner chamber of dowager's unless her husband is a top courtier - which ML wasn't anymore - in public / court. I think there should've been a scene announcing the restoration of title & showing reactions of courtiers & Yus before showing FL in that chamber in last scene.
Especially after Yus thought they'd won against this couple, when ML's status is restored, no one reacts to the news, no one questions the king, there should've been a scene, it was extremely jarring to see FL at the banquet without any scene to cushion her husband's & her own restored status.
Wu concubine was brought to capital by her aunt for an advantageous marriage, BUT that didn't stop that same aunt from defaming her own niece THREE TIMES just to latch her to some guy (ML, Wei & now Yu). Wu was groomed to be a concubine. I think once Yu household starts to fall, Wu concubine will come out of this attachment & go make something of herself in Anzhou etc.
I have a question: how did ML get his job back after being relegated as a commoner - there was no scene between Yus celebrating his downfall, king telling him in private that he was putting him in charge of disaster relief & then Sec. Tian praising ML for his mausoleum move, and suddenly, the last scene shows FL in the dowager's chamber with all the other elite wives, how could she attend it if her husband had been publicly given a dressing down & removal of titles? She was even hiding from the merchants when stepping out of the house & he was wearing a bit normal clothes. So if he is restored, when was he restored & if he is restored, why isn't there a scene of court hearing about it or of the Yus flipping?
I would've guessed that his reinstallation would be BIG news for Yus & needed to be explained. And btw IF Sec. Tian knows ML played a game, surely dowager can also guess she got played?
I watched all episodes of KTTPH as well, but I did not care for the characters or what happens to them the way I'm invested in this drama. Solid stuff.
Where is Mr. Chongsi btw? Isn't he supposed to help ML in creating revenue stream for grains & do salt reform? Shameless/ SML being in revenue bureau can't be a good thing btw. FL looked v good in that turquoise blue dress on second day of marriage (when ML has had a bad day at the office), didn't lead to any romance though.....