Solo Dodo

Koreaboo's timeline of events is my go-to way to catch up on everything which has happened vis-a-vis the scandal:
https://www.koreaboo.com/series/kim-soo-hyun-kim-sae-ron-relationship/timeline/

Some MDL members have also created this google document (with regular updates). It is even more detailed than the Koreaboo timeline:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gMuaL3YIYNwHQE3OILNpB_2LMYil-T9TU_ZrysSL6lU

If you just want to know about Knock Off, it has been delayed (not cancelled) pending a final decision by Disney. The poster and the date have been removed from this page. (It wasn't the real poster anyway.) Production for Knock Off 2 has been cancelled. We don't know anything else.

What is true is that GM lied three times when they said KSH & KSR didn't date, he didn't visit her apartment, and he wasn't the half-naked dishwasher. These lies are included in GM's public statement #2.

The moment we learned those were lies was when GM admitted that yes they dated, yes he visited her apartment, and yes he was the guy in the photo. This moment is also when that photo became proven to be authentic because GM admitted it was. These admissions are included in GM's public statement #3.

So we have four facts total and no more:
1) yes they dated,
2) yes KSH visited KSR's apartment
3) yes KSH was the guy in the butt-naked dishwasher photo
4) GM had previously lied about 1,2, & 3 in a public statement

If GM had lied even once it would provide grounds for any brands to cut ties with him. GM's admissions enabled the brands confidence that they could do so without fear of consequences of a countersuit for breach of contract. IOW, GM lost their rights to sue the brand partners for breach of contract the moment they admitted they had engaged in fraud by lying.

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"innocent until proven guilty" is a legal right in the court of law. It has no bearing on public opinion, even though it is still a polite & good practice for people to wait for evidence before passing judgment.

It is polite but not required in a court of public opinion to say KSH is innocent of dating KSR because that allegation has not been proven and there are no established facts, only speculation.

It is also polite but not required in a court of public opinion to say KSR is innocent of marrying because that allegation too has not been proven and there are no established facts (yet), only speculation.

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None of the other allegations—from either side—can be taken as fact (yet). None of the other photos or other media—audio, video, her diary, etc.—are evidence (yet) because they haven't been proven to be authentic. Some might be proven at which time these will become evidence. And this evidence will substantiate someone's allegation and then that will be upgraded to fact.

The family has submitted some media to be verified by forensics. I haven't heard, but GM is likely doing the same. We do not know how long this will take, or whether any of will be proven to be authentic or whether any of it will become evidence.

From GM's 2nd public statement:

"Kim Soo Hyun’s letter to Kim Sae Ron while he was in the military was just one of the letters he sent to his close friends. As you could see from the contents of the letter, Kim Soo Hyun was adjusting to the military lifestyle and used the letter to let his close friends know about his daily life in the military. The expression “I miss you” is a light-hearted expression used by soldiers to their close friends."

koreaboo.com/news/kim-soo-hyun-agency-reveals-details-relationship-kim-sae-ron/

You're not wrong. Did you see his recent post?

koreaboo.com/news/sullis-brother-calls-kim-soo-hyuns-fans-in-biting-new-update/

I meant only to have a little fun. Thank you however for explaining your point, which is interesting.

Late Kim Sae Ron’s Mother Addresses The “Fake Aunt” In A New Statement

"A real aunt, a fake aunt—why does that even matter? When Sae Ron was about six years old and started acting as a child, I met this person as a fellow mother of a child actor. We helped each other, taking turns managing household chores and serving as managers for our children, filling in for each other as needed. Over time, my children and I came to rely on and regard her as a real family. It has been nearly 20 years of considering her so. Likewise, I have been like an aunt to her children.”

Full statement:
koreaboo.com/news/kim-saeron-mother-new-statement-fake-aunt-lee-jinho-lawsuit/

I saw Healer after having watched a couple of her other more recent dramas, wasn't paying attention to the casting, and didn't event recognize her. Until that wedding guest scene when she had a glamorous makeover and suddenly there was the PMY from those other series. That was a memorable moment, for me.

Which is a perfectly cromulent thing to do.

In a town with only two cosmetic surgeons, go to the uglier one!

It's an IRL tragedy, all around

Most disputes are settled out of court. The courts are there to mediate when necessary. Deals and their undoings happen when both parties agree that it's their own best option. And the current circumstances give Prada or any of the other brands an easy way out with little or no room for pushback from the guy who is losing a dozen or more—maybe two—deals right now.

He's such a saint!

Kim Soo Hyun is living out an IRL humiliation ritual and I am so ready for the next episode! 🍿🍿

My last attempt to respond to the evidence question was to explain that Prada—using one example—can cancel their contract because GM admitted fraud when they issued new public statements contradicting previous claims (e.g, yes, he actually did date KSR). And also because that admission invites any court of law to enforce Prada's rights in this regard, including penalty fees!

OTOH, a good way to refresh your spirits is to have fun with it! When ValS20 asked, "Umm Who is K-DIDDY??" I replied with this:

K-diddle-diddle is the fool in the middle
of the biggest scandal today!
His fans are so shook, denial is their hook
and his accusers are having a field day!
🎤 🤣😂

When I read in his post that he couldn't say anything, I assumed that he must have signed an NDA. My cynical take is that these thugs must be there to enforce it.

Forensics is going to upgrade a lot of what we don't know which will radically alter the narrative. Anyone & everyone who may be submitting falsified evidence or false testimony needs to be exposed!

The lottery has already occurred. I read they had a few seats available for handicapped and the elderly. I imagine all the entertainment media reporters are rushing out to rent wheelchairs and walkers!

If a company just willy-nilly dropped a contract for no good reason, then the other party (in this case GM) would have the right to file a claim for full compensation, even if their client doesn't complete his obligations. This is why we sometimes hear about buyouts.

And my take on the fact that KSH dated KSR is that he is morally but not legally culpable. I expect he will receive public humiliation and damage to his brand (he already is), but no charges will be filed against him.

That said, I fully agree with everything else in your post.

You are talking about your own standards vis-a-vis public opinion while I have been discussing legal standards.

Legally it is indisputable that KSH and GM have released fraudulent official, public statements which any court of law would recognize as such. And as such, KSH and GM would need to address this record of repeated fraudulent statements when prosecuting any criminal complaints against the family of Kim Sae Ron, the woman she referred to has her aunt, and the video blogger of Garo Sero.

Companies like Prada care about public opinion because the public are their advertising demographic and their customers. But they also care about legal standards. When companies like Prada seek to break contracts with brand ambassadors like KSH, they use courts to enforce their actions. This is why legal definitions are important. Legally, Prada is able to break their contract with KSH AND claw back money from him BECAUSE his FRAUD violates the morality clause in their contract. And I have heard that this contract stipulates that KSH MUST pay them 3X the amount he was originally paid. And the courts will enforce this because—by his own admission—KSH has committed acts of FRAUD.

Not everything said against KSH is negativity or hate. Some of it is merely factual.

Anyway, you do you. I don't mind or care about what you personally think or believe. I support you in coming to your own conclusions in your own timing. Peace.

"Every single evidence so far is circumstantial."

Not so. Normally in a court of law testimony is not the same as Real (hard, concrete) Evidence.

EXCEPT when the person giving the testimony changes their story by giving new testimony which contradicts their previous statement(s).

So by issuing public statements and then issuing new statements which contradicted their previous ones, Gold Medalist has elevated those statements to qualify for the legal standard of FRAUD at the level of REAL EVIDENCE (not circumstantial.)