I am a great lover of the over decorated Christmas tree, not colour coordinated, no theme and full o f mismatching tat. I am not sure I would want a drama to cover any story that way. I think that is a lot of the problem with modern drama. In an effort to fix something they throw everything at it, trying to cover every theme, trope and what ever else is in fashion, when the script and the story should be good enough to stand on its own merits, with actors who can act not just say the words. The decoration, costumes, and what the actors look like unless its a plot point shouldn't matter, but then that’s not about making a drama but selling merch.
Love the table analogy. There are really only so many drama/novel story lines, the main materials of the construction, and what then does it fore fill its purpose, and achieve its aims.
I think this is the first drama that I have seen that represents young adults life as any choice seeming like…
I often wonder if its as a whole, depending on the culture, its because there is more choice. In previous generations you life was also mapped out for you from birth, and breaking out was the exception, now everyone seems to have to chose. You are classed as boring if you are not different or trying to be something as adult, where as being a teenager was a stage where you tried things out before you went in to a responsible life, with a job that paid the bills. Bua's story is a bit like the teen version of the Black Mirror episode, but more realistic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosedive_(Black_Mirror)
It's now been several hours after I posted my initial comment right after watching ep 6...and nope, that spastic…
I think this is the first drama that I have seen that represents young adults life as any choice seeming like a huge drama, from choosing your nail colour, to being ignored by a friend/boy friend. At that that age you just coping with your own emotions is tiring. making want to sob. This is why when I see adults in drama being portrayed as immature, which most of them, hard, because most of us have been through that stage in our teens, its part of normal development
that scene when Baabin said 4mod is handsome and everything while on mute is too hilarious 🤣🤣🤣 and I'm…
I think that scene is so clever because they are fixed and unable to hide their emotions. In real life they would have looked at their phones and looked away, but the camera literally holds them to transfixed.
I can understand you’re disappointed but how could you wish for personalities disorder when in ep 8 it was clarified…
I all for alternate reality, because in theory its possible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_time_dimensions I listened to a talk about multiverse that I almost understood, https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b008z744 , but when its just tossed in to the pot like an add on, like how did the two versions of the same person exist at the same time, its just a waste of an idea. I used to read a lot of sifi as a teenager, some of the ideas used are now proven, so I am not against the use of these ideas, but that would need some understanding of the theory. As a writer a personality disorder is a lot easier to research and understand.
I didn't dislike the show, but looking at the writers other works Love Sea, they are unable to write fully rounded female characters, its repetitive making someone nasty with the reason only being to seen that they a female. Its like some old fashioned C drama, but in 2025 I think we all should have moved on from this. How is the father not culpable, never mind the fact the men that attempt a murder? Whoops we've hit the wrong one, no police involved in a RTA where someone ends up in hospital and could have died? Most drama is some sort of fantasy of reality, that we enjoy , its escapism but when the fantasy is set in a version of real life it becomes a lot harder to over look huge holes in plots and character.
Such a shame the plot writing fell off the cliff, again. I was sort of hoping the personalities were a symptom of Dissociative identity disorder, which would have a least made some sense. The age of majority in Thailand is 20 unless married, so that whole plot line had a lot of holes. Too many startled looks in the last ep and script padding, the actors doing their best with what they were given. My other huge gripe was why do the main female characters have to be bordering on psychotic. Just lazy writing. Great production values and good OST, just not really going to be one I think about much.
I loved it because it was sweet, but managed to mix in some serious issues, toxic 'fans' who think they own an artists private life, and how management manipulate artists careers. With MSM they can just phone or text and trash someone’s life. The OST was good, well it should be, and it was very well acted. I think it managed to over deliver on expectations.
All people who dropped this soon like on ep 2 did wrong and when they gave it a chance again got it that they…
I have been lucky to work in a hospital that treats people with severe medical problems including brain injury, I have worked in neuro intensive care, and yes medical science is amazing but it has its limitations. I admit that watching a medical drama is hard for me because I see all the mistakes, but what really annoys me is when they take a theory and represent it as fact. When you have a revelative in front of you and have to explain what is really possible and they are disappointed because they have heard of some unproven treatment that will let the person they love return to how they were before, its a tough thing to do. If you know someone who has a mental illness, and I do not mean 'just' the normal range of depression, the treatments have side effects, and the effects often not consistent from month to month. Perhaps in the future there will be body feedback delivery systems for drugs, as used with insulin delivery pumps but you need a person to accept this, and they often have multiple problems including self medicating.
For me its like watching paint dry, and I want to like it, it has one of my favourite actors in it, so I was saving it so I could give my full attention. So many hours of people trying to be cute, and acting like brainless young teens. The make up is so whited out, plus the over use of light, their faces shine like car headlights. I think I will just watch the last two episodes.
I do love this, but I do have to laugh. The writers have basically solved the plot problem with what do your in love characters do next, you just rinse and repeat, and a bit like Every You Every Me. It saves on cast costs, and you do not have the hassle of writing completely new characters, or casting new couple who may or may not work. Love the OST, but does anyone know where the piano music infill originally comes from, it turns up regularly in most of these drama's, last heard by me in My Stand In.
I just do not get how the ML is so smart in her work, but has no idea how to interpret the world, its not like she has been kept in a box most of her life. When you work in any sort of working unit you soon see a lot of pond life and office politics, she only had to send a couple of emails, and ask questions, like can you send me a some information about yourself? I also do not get the height ratio supposed cuteness, perhaps because most of my family are tall, my SIL is 2m, and its just a nuisance, hard to get clothes and shoes that fit. I just look at them and think its will be a devil finding finding furniture that fits them both.
This could turn out to be ground breaking. The direction style has that sort of twitchy spy movie feel, where you in the conversation or following someone gaze, so not the normal sort of story telling and takes a bit of getting used, just because the norm is one dimensional story telling and its just unexpected. Not in style but in content it reminds me of Gregorys Girl (1981) where you just follow some lovesick lad trying to catch his crush, so there is no real plot. Which I would recommend because its funny, if you can understand the thick Scottish accent. The acting is very naturalistic, and depicts the time when time seems to go slowly and you just want something to happen, like now, and you fill your time with distractions. I love that the bands a bit shit, so true.
Oh the story sums up the current thing that is going on for genZs — situationship, where both parties agreed…
So sorry to hear this. As an oldie I think there is problem that everyone is looking for a perfect ideal, when its not completely perfect they move along, or think they are making do, when life and love is finding something or someone and working on it together.
Over the years, as I’ve learned more about Korean society, I’ve come to realize how deeply toxic and suffocating…
If anyone wants to find out in greater detail there is plenty of Youtube content created by Koreans or people who are long term residents in Korea that explain the culture and problems in detail. They say money is the root of all evil, well it certainly causes a lot of problems, and the Korean government has heavily invested in the entertainment industry, https://www.forbes.com/sites/shainshapiro/2021/07/06/want-proof-investing-in-music-works-look-at-south-korea/ so there is no incentive to expose bad practice. The difference between child actors in the West even if they make mistakes there is always a chance to remake your life, Many UK/US actors who have drug and another crime records but still go on to have a career . I just feel really sad for this young women who obviously had MH issues who thought death was the only way out of her pain.
Well it was pretty good, my favourite part being the road trip and extra characters that seemed rooted in a reality. The winner in best character for me was Dunk. He got to play against his normal casting, and I could even see him cast as the sly villain, even with the Pink Panther walk. I think the rest got to play their normal stock characters just in a different setting. If you have watched Moonlight Chicken you know First and Khao are capable of much more. What lost if for me was the last episode, even if they only 5 years in prison, the sentence would normally 15-20 years they would look and be different. The wicked Mother just plot dressing. This is not down to the acting but the same old problem, writers not knowing how to end a plot. So deducting marks 8.5.
Worst Mom? Yes, but the dad just sitting there saying forget everything because it was in the past would have…
I agree but men tend to just move on and not think too much, TBH a lot would not be bothered with looking after their children, I speak from real life experience. I call them cuckoos, they have a child or two with their partners and them leave so the women ends up bringing up on their own, and they move on to the next nest. At least their father has tried to make them a home, with small children even with help that is hard. The mother is manipulative IMO, if your marriage/ relationship is shaky for what ever reason do not have another child, because its not going to make things better. Then you have to use your child as reason to come back. The crumbs of why suddenly why she wants to see them, lets open a wound and them make it worse, I would imagine their father is thinking just lets get this over with because what ever he says will be misconstrued. I would imagine Newton is equally as traumatised because he would be a bystander, and retreated in to detachment. Its an interesting look at grief and loss, and how depending on your age in a family your childhood can be completely different even if you live together. Yotha and Faifa are just desperate for someone to love them unconditionally, which what most mothers do, and that's a heavy load for any relationship.
Descendants of the Sun, Goblin, Mr. Sunshine, The King: Eternal Monarch are just relaunches. Netflix had at least…
Old shows are relatively cheap to purchase and people want to watch them, its comfort viewing, and from Netflix point of view it makes sense. I grew up on a diet of old movies, old doesn't not mean bad content and with the demographics the age of the viewer is rising, hence so much nostalgia drama that is newly made.
I have all the major streaming services, and out of all of them is has the most watchable content, and they are prepared to take risks with new production teams, sometimes not star based. Disney has had its fingers burnt, it spent lots of money on Star Wars spin offs that in terms cost v views were a failure. Prime and Disney also use their streaming services for cross marketing and costs. Baby Reindeer won and Emmys this year, made for a very small budget in Netflix terms, The Crown costs about $10m per ep, but had a lot of views, and its all about views v money. All Quiet on the Western Front won four Oscars including best foreign language film and cost $20m, So I hope they let smaller production companies have a go, and the money filters out to help other countries film and TV industries, where film and drama services are underpaid.
Watched as a couple, and if we both thought it was a great watch. Great action sequences, with some style. The plot is pretty to follow, has some sort of basis in reality, and I loved the set up of the family home and town. Be warned there are some very thin cows shown and they will not get any fatter with a handful of hay, that bothered me more than the gore.
I would have enjoyed this more if this was shorter, and had some point to the plot, it didn't need to be a romance just something with a bit of spark. To much law with cases that were a bit bland. and the big reveal why the female lead was there was just not good enough. The main plus is all characters are based in real life, not to many tropes, and the cast has some of the most experienced actors in modern C drama, and they all know how to deliver a line.
The decoration, costumes, and what the actors look like unless its a plot point shouldn't matter, but then that’s not about making a drama but selling merch.
Bua's story is a bit like the teen version of the Black Mirror episode, but more realistic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosedive_(Black_Mirror)
This is why when I see adults in drama being portrayed as immature, which most of them, hard, because most of us have been through that stage in our teens, its part of normal development
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b008z744 ,
but when its just tossed in to the pot like an add on, like how did the two versions of the same person exist at the same time, its just a waste of an idea. I used to read a lot of sifi as a teenager, some of the ideas used are now proven, so I am not against the use of these ideas, but that would need some understanding of the theory.
As a writer a personality disorder is a lot easier to research and understand.
I didn't dislike the show, but looking at the writers other works Love Sea, they are unable to write fully rounded female characters, its repetitive making someone nasty with the reason only being to seen that they a female. Its like some old fashioned C drama, but in 2025 I think we all should have moved on from this. How is the father not culpable, never mind the fact the men that attempt a murder? Whoops we've hit the wrong one, no police involved in a RTA where someone ends up in hospital and could have died?
Most drama is some sort of fantasy of reality, that we enjoy , its escapism but when the fantasy is set in a version of real life it becomes a lot harder to over look huge holes in plots and character.
My other huge gripe was why do the main female characters have to be bordering on psychotic. Just lazy writing.
Great production values and good OST, just not really going to be one I think about much.
If you know someone who has a mental illness, and I do not mean 'just' the normal range of depression, the treatments have side effects, and the effects often not consistent from month to month. Perhaps in the future there will be body feedback delivery systems for drugs, as used with insulin delivery pumps but you need a person to accept this, and they often have multiple problems including self medicating.
The make up is so whited out, plus the over use of light, their faces shine like car headlights.
I think I will just watch the last two episodes.
Love the OST, but does anyone know where the piano music infill originally comes from, it turns up regularly in most of these drama's, last heard by me in My Stand In.
I also do not get the height ratio supposed cuteness, perhaps because most of my family are tall, my SIL is 2m, and its just a nuisance, hard to get clothes and shoes that fit. I just look at them and think its will be a devil finding finding furniture that fits them both.
The acting is very naturalistic, and depicts the time when time seems to go slowly and you just want something to happen, like now, and you fill your time with distractions. I love that the bands a bit shit, so true.
They say money is the root of all evil, well it certainly causes a lot of problems, and the Korean government has heavily invested in the entertainment industry,
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shainshapiro/2021/07/06/want-proof-investing-in-music-works-look-at-south-korea/
so there is no incentive to expose bad practice.
The difference between child actors in the West even if they make mistakes there is always a chance to remake your life, Many UK/US actors who have drug and another crime records but still go on to have a career .
I just feel really sad for this young women who obviously had MH issues who thought death was the only way out of her pain.
The winner in best character for me was Dunk. He got to play against his normal casting, and I could even see him cast as the sly villain, even with the Pink Panther walk. I think the rest got to play their normal stock characters just in a different setting. If you have watched Moonlight Chicken you know First and Khao are capable of much more.
What lost if for me was the last episode, even if they only 5 years in prison, the sentence would normally 15-20 years they would look and be different. The wicked Mother just plot dressing. This is not down to the acting but the same old problem, writers not knowing how to end a plot. So deducting marks 8.5.
The mother is manipulative IMO, if your marriage/ relationship is shaky for what ever reason do not have another child, because its not going to make things better. Then you have to use your child as reason to come back. The crumbs of why suddenly why she wants to see them, lets open a wound and them make it worse, I would imagine their father is thinking just lets get this over with because what ever he says will be misconstrued.
I would imagine Newton is equally as traumatised because he would be a bystander, and retreated in to detachment.
Its an interesting look at grief and loss, and how depending on your age in a family your childhood can be completely different even if you live together. Yotha and Faifa are just desperate for someone to love them unconditionally, which what most mothers do, and that's a heavy load for any relationship.
I have all the major streaming services, and out of all of them is has the most watchable content, and they are prepared to take risks with new production teams, sometimes not star based. Disney has had its fingers burnt, it spent lots of money on Star Wars spin offs that in terms cost v views were a failure. Prime and Disney also use their streaming services for cross marketing and costs.
Baby Reindeer won and Emmys this year, made for a very small budget in Netflix terms, The Crown costs about $10m per ep, but had a lot of views, and its all about views v money.
All Quiet on the Western Front won four Oscars including best foreign language film and cost $20m,
So I hope they let smaller production companies have a go, and the money filters out to help other countries film and TV industries, where film and drama services are underpaid.
The main plus is all characters are based in real life, not to many tropes, and the cast has some of the most experienced actors in modern C drama, and they all know how to deliver a line.