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I've not been disappointed in any of LYX's dramas since his fame from Ashes of Love but this one, I made it to episode 8 and I just threw the white towel in. I can't feel anything to justify finishing this drama.

I started this for Leo as I am a huge fan. After a few episodes in, I didn't like it. Didn't understand snooker which is part of my problem with it. Another is the romance. While I don't mind a slow burn romance, I expect more to happen. I finished it after watching it in 1.5 to 2.0 speed because it was that boring to me. Nothing wrong with the acting. I just found the story too boring. I couldn't get excited. 30 episodes is way too long. I also detest the idea of 'getting married' so that other people wouldn't want to pursue them as even a thought. Not my cup of tea.

I'm catching up on this having waited until the announcement of the 2nd season so I wouldn't wait a whole year for the sequel. I'm just on episode 9 and I have to say, if Cheng Yi is known for his brutal and tragic roles then Yang Zi is the female counterpart. All of her period dramas have been absolute heartbreaking in torture, pain and regrets. Yes, I saw them in Immoral Samsara and they compliment each other so well.

No, I've had it for years.

Just wanted to say that WXY with his hair down and half draping on his face = new level of fire. I realize that all of his period dramas have his hair up and for that short scene of his hair down, OMG...I want more.

Is this meant to be the last part of Love You Forever?

And also, other viewers said the novel has HE for weeks before they decided to film that 5 min extra.

I'm currently on episode 7...I honestly can't seem to get into this drama. I'm not feeling anything between the leads. I've been staying since many other viewers said it gets better as we keep going. I usually give up after a few episodes not clicking with me but have stayed because it's Luo Yun Xi. Can someone tell me it gets better and when?

Me either. Huang Yaoshi is a very powerful and arrogant master. His presence in any scene commands fear. I'm not sensing fear here.

A part of me thinks suicide isn't expected for a character like him (who has done everything he could to survive, even endure humiliation) but it almost seems like he did it as XFF was walking away from him, not batting an eye was his last final attempt to get her attention (he was going to die anyways) and to see if she would even shed a tear for him (being manipulative). But thankfully, XFF didn't turn to look and kept walking on. There is nothing more powerful than to not get forgiveness he desperately wanted. I always said it's a shame he lost a great wife and it's even sadder that he thought he could right things, by "cleansing" himself ie- get rid of Wanning, rise to power and be in control.

I can only hope that they do a modern drama as a 'sequel'. Similar to how they did it for One and Only. It's funny because a very recent interview with WJY, she was asked how the story would be played in modern drama, and she thought about it too

That's actually a common villainous husband in cdramaland. Nothing unique or special. But in line with this drama on going beyond the tropes, SYR isn't like that. You said he used his wife. First, she had no power or wealth. Her father at the time was just a local magistrate (who we know by now that he was a very humbled one, didn't take bribes and was actually using his salary to help the poor). XFF therefore was actually living modestly as well. She didn't have money to give to SYR but she was very supportive of him- on an intellectual level, they complimented each other. And with her, he got a position in politics but not just because of her.

If he wanted XFF dead because she came back for her revenge, he had many opportunities to do so (again, in line with his villainous two timing husband nature) but instead he saved her (which is more in line with his guilt over his actions). Some will say he saved her for his own benefit but really, most of his issues would be resolved if XFF remained dead. To say we don't really know he ever loved her, then we have missed all those scenes of him being in immense guilt. We missed those flashbacks of him actually being happy with XFF. Because I do believe he had loved her and still does but he destroyed that happiness.

What I also like about this drama is that the villains (women) have been victims of their circumstances, in those circumstances they made decisions that put them where they end up. It's not an excuse nor justification for the harm and reckless disregard for other people's lives but it does make you at the very least, pity them as victims. This was particular shown in the stepmother's past. In contrast, XFF is also a victim but she made different choices- she doesn't want anyone hurt that isn't part of her revenge scheme.

While we all know people aren't born bad - it's the choices they make that do. However, the choices available to them is also defined by their circumstances.

In the side note, I can see how painful it was for SYR to see XFF smile when she ran to XH. Once upon a time, that smile was reserved for him. He had a great and supportive wife and he was happily married to her. By his own hand, he destroyed that happiness and there is no reconcile with XFF. Those flashbacks show that it was not even easy for them to get married. They had to overcome their parents initial disapproval.

She knew very little of Wanning and perhaps she thought she was dealing with someone who was very calculated (like her stepmother) and therefore, she can manipulate her by exploiting her weakness. Except, Wanning's weakness is not really SYR - she is nothing more than a pet. Wanning is very much unhinged and going up against her without knowing exactly who she is, what makes her tick, what makes her powerful is rash and is going to lead Jiang Li with limited choices.

Her version of love is domination and obsession.

He did very well. Liu Shi Shi was Mu Nian Ci

Did you like Yuan Hong's version of Yang Kang? It's the Hu Ge version of Condor Heroes. The writers there wanted to show for once the complicated character conflicted between knowing his birth heritage and yet, grew up as a privileged adopted son of a powerful Jin official.

I like how he immediately noticed that it could be taken wrongly and he goes to explain himself to her very fast. It's obvious he cares about how she sees him without even saying it. Brilliant.

She goes missing from the storyline for a bit, resurfaces and then her arc is done by ep 29

I didn't mind Ariel Lin's Huang Rong and she did the BEST version of the scene that is suppose to be really difficult for her character (pulling the dagger out of Guo Jin). The internal struggle was very apparent. Other versions doesn't give it enough heart for you to really feel her pain.