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Maybe some girls but not all. I personally like when plot has character depth and good plot not just romance. But sometimes when u watch lot of heavy plot or when life is a mess u need something on calm and sweet side to just heal u. So mood also plays a role.

Watch only if u are ready to watch toxic lovestory because no character imho is completely green here. Or wait for another 2 weeks to complete this drama. Because once u start there is no going back either u hate it or love it. But the series has potential to bind u to the screen all the time to the point that wait is only the way out.

While i can still understand other reasons. Yichen's brother hiding msg was never addressed and he doesn't seem guilty about it also. No i can't forgive him on that it has no reason. Plus later he was dating a guy still never felt guilty about it.

Ikr. I don't know how to explain my feelings about this drama. I love them together but given the toxicity i don't want them to be together. I see their deep love it was sooo beautiful but I see their suffering also. I see lu feng suffering and his love but I see yichen suffering and love. I see people around them. It's like this drama has truly conquered my heart and soul. They are toxic to each other for me but ig the love between them was soo strong that they decided to be together in the end. I just don't know what i feel about characters and story. It's like on and off emotional turmoil and to be able to write and make a drama like this is truly astonishing. For any matter I think I need to see it till the end but wait is too long. 2 ep per week is not suffice but is good also because it give me time to calm down my emotions only to get tortured by them again.

Because consider giving two people happy ending when lu feng raped, tortured, made yichen went through coma, putting down the person u love in front of everyone by humiliating him in front of his own son, making him body concious and what not. And consider yichen who just have one word in defense "I love him. I am miserable." Always playing victim card because of whatever reason idc never taking a stand for their relationship. Not giving equal in relationship and making other exhausted. Destroying lot of people life. It's not something everyone can accept and although it will be fiction adapted from novel it sets wrong standard and still romanticises the idea that these level of toxicity can still end up beautifully. It's a big no no. Atleast in drama when they toned down u can take stand and still think ok these are reasons but they can still be together atleast with whatever incidents happened till ep8. Plus not to mention of u read novel u clearly know that the author must be very young when she was writing this book. Lot of things were not dealt properly. Atleast through drama with some minor changes u can still have a hope to deal things in mature way. Otherwise from novel pov how can u defend lu feng slapping and raping yichen at his office? That's something one should go and report it to police. Because it is a real trauma irl. Although in drama also u can't defend lu feng with this and still ask them to be together at the end. These year gaps are like cooling down that I can let go of past and live my life without u. But still happy ending idk.

Imo it's not manipulative. But ig he still has feelings for lu feng. That's why he is just hoping that what if he also wasn't able to move on like me. And want to get his attention. Lu feng made the boundary by giving him cold shoulder.

What bothers me is why people always point out lu feng toxicity? Is it because it fits the set society standard of toxicity? But isn't yichen also toxic? Not giving equal efforts and not choosing your partner over and over again for whatever reason of sacrifices and all drama. But not giving equal efforts also makes other person tired. It's like u are in a one sided relationship where all the efforts to stay together are expected from u but u can't expect from ur partner.

Yichen said "are u going to leave me? I don't want to break up" when lu feng has dilemma to choose his family over yichen. But lu feng stayed. He assured that he will not let him go and he did that but when the same situation arises for yichen atleast a good confrontation also he didn't have. Why he don't talk things with lu feng. Isn't that toxic as well. Just because his toxicity doesn't come with physical violence doesn't mean he is not toxic.

Both yichen and lu feng are toxic.

Lu feng actually put more efforts and loved him over anything. Always discussing his decision that's why his love was taken granted. Afterall when u are always available for other person that person never values u. A person only values other person if they are far from ur reach.

This story is soo sad. But what's more sad is always pitying yichen's sacrifices and not recognising his toxic behaviour. Glad that atleast one person talked about him being manipulative even though I don't agree with yichen being manipulative but he is toxic.

I am planning to start this drama how is it? I see ratings is low. And drop out rates high after 12-13 ep

Novel has happy ending. Not sure how they will end in series. But lot of toxicity is coming if they adapt even 1percent of novel.

Idts till last ep u will find any happiness from this drama. Better relive the ep1,2 of this drama 🥺

Omg i also love fictional stories. I do love to watch toxic stories with red flag or black flag and avoid in future but ig if story is not written in s way where these dark themes are handled with much care i don't like that plot because it kind of set the idea that this is normal. And that's the reason I don't generally like FF dealing with manhandling. I wonder how people and society was back then if the toxic love was that norm. Because imagine romanticising and giving happy ending to the person who in real life deserve jail. But i love that cbl or the author was enough mature to understand ot atleast bring out issues like same sex rape can happen because there are lot of countries that think male rape is not possible. And has zero laws protecting them till now. Plus the issue of gay people marrying a girl for the sake of society is also something that I was shocked to know when I was teen. Let's see how story unfolds in drama because i am curious.
Finally after talking to you i can put my mind at ease that i am not alone with these thoughts.

Chapter no i don't remember but he did drugged him when he first came to his house after 20 years separation. He mixed something in his drink and that happened and yes he did had s*x in front of his own son. And the fact that story only slightly touched emotional trauma from that and every torture lu feng inflict on yichen by just having fever and not able to sleep and then move on is something due to which i can't love the story of novel. For me if u are using these intense things in novel it has to be addressed properly. But in the novel when yichen was in coms lu feng said his intention about each act and after that yichen although afraid of lu feng just never talked about the crimes he did to yichen. That made me think that author was some teenager because there is no way after these a person can have romantic feelings for anyone. I just hate lu feng toxic arc. And yes he was sex freak but in last chapter ig he did said " do I make love to u so that I can satisfy your lower body? I want to love your whole body" so that was atleast some character development only in that part.

I agree with u in series he is more humane. I like the changes that has been made in the series as compared to novel. Because in novel i truly didn't wanted them to get happy ending. At most friends. But here since things are changed i am thankful for that as now I think I can still accept lu feng being with yichen if things don't go beyond limit. R word is unforgettable crime , paralysing part is something i can't defend its wrong but except that till now I am still ok.

In novel, he made yichen suffer so much not to say he drugged yichen and he made him r*** a young guy. He used to have on off mood swings with yichen in novel as long as yichen was not suffering physically he never let any opportunity of showing hatred to let go. But i think here he will not show this level of brutality. Not to highlight in novel he used sexual violence but here violence was not shown of that level which i sn thankful. In novel he constantly humiliate yichen and beat him idts here he will do all that.

But similarities are there. Both lu feng are toxic. And essence of story is same.

Finally someone pointed out my emotions. You can't blame any one character but cannot defend anyone as well. Because all are at fault despite not being at fault. I think the only true villian is the society and the time this drama's story was written. It's just like untamed where no one is villian except society.

Idk what to feel after ep 8. I am speechless. Its like all i can see is suffering, pain and no resolution. Things are getting more complex as story progresses.

Yi chen- He did marry a girl as her mother wished. I am glad that the marriage didn't last long but it has already done it's damage to the life of so many people. Yichen truly wanted to be with lu feng. That's why when he was getting married he was seeing lu feng not Zhou lan. But in the process yichen, Zhou lan, lu feng, lu feng's sister got hurt. Now after all that idk why he even went to see lu feng to his company? See i told u he says break up then break up he says let's meet and be together then be together. After getting married he fulfilled his filial duty and he got divorced. Zhou lan found someone else. Now that he is not bounded by anything he suddenly wishes to see lu feng when he was the one who gave him up because of whatever reason. Shouldn't he let go of lu feng and move on with his life. I don't understand him. In these 5 years of separation although he was suffering he was having Zhou lan as a friend who understand him. But lu feng was alone bearing the pain, drowning himself in alcohol consumption. It was one decision that brought the suffering to the next level.

Lu feng- not defending him. But his pain is something i can't watch. Who is that boy? Why was he so non chalant with yichen? What feelings he has now with yichen? Yichen was able to see lu feng through social media but lu feng was not able to even know why suddenly he took that decision to marry and not even have proper bye. He drowned himself with work and alcohol to ease the pain. Every second he was suffering.

Both had to let go of the person they loved because of the stigma. I am happy that in 2026 atleast lot of countries are starting to acknowledge this and make laws.
Because no one should suffer like this.

Yichen's mother- I hope now that her one of the son is "normal," has fulfilled his filial duty, she can peacefully die. Because I don't want to even talk about her. She never once thought about yichen's happiness. All she thought is about the society and stigma. She never even said " i understand u yichen but not society hence let's follow the rules made by society". She just said loving a person of same gender is not normal.

Zhou lan- i have doubt if she knew that yichen was gay? And if yes then why she decided to marry him? When she knew his relationship with lu feng? Was she trying to give a shot that ok a person's sexual orientation can be changed? Having said that i am glad she got divorced and found her happiness.

I honestly don't know what to feel about this drama because I am not sure if i want both yichen and lu feng to be together. But one thing for sure, lu feng lost his innocence and warmth now. He now don't have that eyes that he used to give to yichen. I really need to watch ep1,2 to see lu feng and yichen school days relationship to heal myself rn.

I agree with you on yichen's dilemma of fighting for their love with her mother when she is in critical health condition. I do agree with you on lu feng part. That he did made the situation worse . No one is defending lu feng actions. But how should I put it? Yichen has grown with such a happy family except that homophobic thing. It's true that anyone in his position will think about family than his lover.

While lu feng is also not wrong from where he is coming. I am saying about his feelings and not his actions( his actions are something that I can't defend period). He has always seen violence in his life so when he fell in love with yichen he fell deeply and don't want to let it go at any cost. Considering the fact that they both were so happy when they were together. They were each other's world. Specially for lu feng yi chen was like his light, warmth. He already lost him once and the fear of loosing him and to not be able to take suffering from separation is something that is the main drive here of his anger. Again not defending lu feng actions.

But at least for me the main problem with yi chen is that why can't he ever come out on front of the world? U can see in his college reunion, when they were in relationship even yi chen should have taken his time and effort to talk to her mother properly by giving some hints that love can't be forced and being gay is not a disease and he is completely normal. The first start of this should be from the time his mother was constantly talking about marriage.

Lu feng actions of not understanding the situation when everyone was trying him to hold back when talking with his mother escalated but yi chen was also at the fault for not trying to speak to his mother. He should have said to Zhou lan that he is gay. Atleast somewhere he needed to start which he didn't that makes him at fault. Otherwise isn't it also a human nature for other party( lu feng) to just expect something when he is always trying and fighting? It was not a equal give and take relationship and how much one can fight without getting tired or frustrated. Which he did also. All he wanted yi chen to be there with him. But that also lu feng sensed that he is ready to leave him without any thoughts. Yi chen could have explained that " we are taking break but we are not letting go of each other. During this time we will try to talk with our family and see where it goes" instead of that it came out as "we are taking a break because of my mother i don't know when we will be back together or if we ever be together". That's why lu feng bashed out enough is enough. Not defending his actions but i get his suffering.

If lu feng is to blame for his toxic behaviour then yi chen is also to be blamed for not taking enough effort in their relationship.

As a person who hates violence i don't agree with you here. Lu feng despite being the person who has always seen violence and power as the resolution to let out frustration since childhood, i think lu feng was the same person who knows how to love someone deeply to the point he can fight the whole world but will keep his love safe.

If u see lu feng and yi chen relationship. He was always do patient with him, pampering him, trying to always win his love.

Now let's talk about the problematic part:-
1. When lu feng R word yi chen- no excuse it's a crime not to be forgiven.
2. When lu feng was confronting xiao chen mother he was already tired of xiao chen not taking stand for their love. He was already separated for 4 years because of this and then with xiao chen because xiao chen was afraid of getting hurt again and when they came into relationship then also in gatherings coming as "friends" even when Zhou lan approached yichen. Yichen didn't told her that he is gay. This all made lu feng frustrated that if not u then I will. I will tell her that we love each other and are not ready to let go. That's why he emphasized " if not now then when?" Nobody knew that yichen mother will went to shock.
3. When yichen's brother was all provoking him that he ruined their life because he just loved yi chen and fought for that. Then why nobody is questioning his brother? He also used his hands constantly to push lu feng. Ik the strength was low and more of accusing in nature. But he did it first. Now lu feng yes he was wrong to push yichen's brother no one is saying that. But giving the whole situation we are understanding him that ok that's why ig happened although it was never his intention.

But saying lu feng always resort to violence atp i don't think so it's s correct statement. Otherwise it's all ur pov and opinion.

Ikr. I mean I do understand yi chen's dilemma but he just want happy ending while he doesn't want to fight in the world for their love where clearly people around him think homosexual relationship is not normal and push the fighting part to lu feng.

My mind is screaming "Whyyy yichen just why? " Why is it everytime yichen always give up when its time to fight hard with his family.
I get it his mother was hospitalized. So he just for the sake to keep his mother content said to take a break with lu feng. But lu feng was right to point out that it was not easy for him to even cut ties with his family just because his relations are not good with them. Even lu feng fought so hard when his father was dying in last moment. He is ready to give up everything. Then why is it everytime yichen has to give up their relationship?
I get it the time this drama was written and even today in most part of the world homosexual relationship was and is still a taboo but isn't yichen the one who said in ep2 that they are normal like everyone then why is that when his mom has said atleast one of her son should be normal he didn't said it politely that it's not the case after making her calm.

I get it lu feng is wrong to push yichen's brother unintentionally in anger. But he did said one thing correctly that why is him and yichen are breaking up and not yichen's brother and qin lang? Why his brother can't understand the pain of yi chen?

I get it yichen was also desiring a happy family with lu feng, his mother and brother but i just get angry with him so much that why yichen can't take a stand for himself for once and fight for his love and consider lu feng's feeling.

Lu feng was right to point out who the hell yi chen think he is? Because when he say break up then break up and then when he say relationship then relationship. Why lu feng comes last in his priority list?

And why no one consider lu feng and yi chen for once?

I get it lu feng was wrong to treat yichen like that but i understand him. He has always been pushed so hard to let go the person he love more than himself. It's torture for him and yichen also.

The sole difference between lu feng and yi chen is that they both love each other and in one hand lu feng can let go of everything but not yi chen but yi chen can let go of lu feng and make both of them suffer rather than taking stand for himself for once.

Now that toxic arc has started...story will go downhill from here in the sense no one will be righteous or good now.

Aahh. How to wait for another week?

Finally completed watching all aired ep of this drama without any bias in my head. Cbl never disappoint. I mean when lu feng and yi chen were and are in relationship and in love they really don't need anyone. They are so happy with each other highlighting bright and warm colours.

But there are few parts where I want to scream to yichen to please give equally in this relationship. I mean I get it he got hurt by lu feng and his breakup in his school days. And they were literally craving each other's love and presence but man please why I sometimes feel that yichen is just too pushy towards lu feng. I really loved yichen more during school days where we really fought with his parents and family for their relationship.

One thing I truly liked is How the series shows when they got intimate for the first time yichen was like " i am a guy why things are like this" showing that he want to take relationship to next level but has some little bit male ego( not saying here in negative aspect) and then he threw tantrum just to take time and lu feng handled him with so much love omg. Ig this will be the best and unique part of any series i have ever seen.

Down in the line I really fell for lu feng in how he sees yichen with so much love, warmth, smiling eyes and face, handle his tantrums, notices his little things whether he want to say something or not, plan future for them. The concern if he leave his family and property how he will give everything to yichen and will yichen still love him. Except R word part i truly like lu feng.

But what broke my heart is that lu feng still has some doubts in how yichen feel about this whole situation. Why can't yichen just come out to the world that he has bf.

I am so excited for tomorrow new ep but i am really anxious also because in last ep they said " this was last they were truly happy".

Ik i am being biased here. Yan xiao should not have hit GJZ. But i think i guess where he is coming from. All his life he is constantly hearing from everyone that he is born with heart illness so he can't become marquis then when GJZ said that that he does nothing with his life. It's like putting oil in the fire. I mean those carrying weapons and always trying new modifications somehow shows that he didnt want this life. He want to fight and become someone.

Also why the whole world is so obsessed with Yan xiao not able to become marquis and carry his family lineage? Does heart illness means it's the end of the world as people constantly portraying in the drama. Why it's not that people who understand his pov or empathize with him instead of giving him scars to carry?

GJZ also assumed that he chose this life and he is really dumb. Just because she at the age of 15 is intelligent and smart i don't understand why she is expecting everyone to be like her? I mean it's not that Yan xiao is dumb but he has father's status although he doesn't seem to care about yan xiao and mother's love that spoiled him where in capital nobility class people were seem to be worshipped. Of all people I think GJZ should have understood his pov that he didn't chose this life.

That being said i am not defending yan xiao beating GJZ out of anger and jealousy. But this whole incident was so sad.