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But why he wanted to die? Even zhang salty didn't had anything to hold on. Both are having names that contain "hai" so both are parted from their family or lost their family is what my belief is( as mentioned when they named zhang haijou). If i just ignore zhang hailou personality all he has is zhang haixia and their shifu. Same like haixia. So does that mean zhang hailou didn't mean that much to him as he meant to hailou? Or did something that bad happened in past in xiacheng that he has no will to live or go back whatsoever. And just save his only person whom he truly care i e. Zhang hailou with his life?

In ep3, it hurts me every time zhang haixia says zhang hailou to go back alone or investigate alone. They were together all these years and suddenly now they have to part ways whenever any physical labour required. Haixia don't want to be burden and hold back hailou. Hailou can't leave him. He has guilt that because of him haixia legs are in this condition. But the way hailou always says i will not go to xiacheng without u and instead keep investigating case by being close to haixia shows that they are each other's family. My heart breaks whenever I see haixia having a sense of crying whenever he is left alone in investigation.

I wonder what hiaxia is thinking. Why he don't want back to xiacheng. Because that's where both hailou and haixia met and their hometown. I wonder what and how things will take turn when they will know that their master is in deep trouble and they have lost lot of their southern archives fellow partners.

Why I didn't watched this series before. It's soo good

Does hai xia legs ever get cured?

Whenever I read the name xiao ge it remind me of the drama "xiao ge" which will never release.

But how is it? She said its not good and also lot of people commented about disappointment. I was thinking to try but after these idk

https://youtu.be/frFunj3efiM?si=AdYRKY53ZnqD4dRi

Story is very engaging so i would recommend to not watch till ep20 airs otherwise with one ep per day schedule you will be suffering like us.

Agreed her position about her being in dilemma. And can I blame her for using ML to get close to her mother for money? No. Because anyone would do that to save her loved one. The only person she can truly call her as family.

In second para, u said that she break promise because she cares for him. While i don't agree with u completely i don't disagree with u also. She cares for lu xi xiao that's why she always ques herself "will this hurt him? And i am sorry" but she also break promise for money. There was point where she deleted lu xi xiao contact in wechat upon her mother's condition. But she then again approached him not because of genuine care but because she got to know that her mother lied about money and she again want to use him to get back on her mother for treatment money.
This leads me to the ques- is relationship between Zhou wan and lu xi xiao genuine? No entirely. How much of this relationship ( whatever they feel towards each other)is actually true? Not everything is fake but not everything is actually true.

Very respectfully i will disagree on one point. Being away for so many years after being abandoned sure that will lead a child think that he/ she don't have mother and if back she can't claim her motherly rights over the child specially when that child is now 18. But she will still remain her biological mother.

The fact that Guo is not married to Lu is a very valid point and tbh a relief that the story is not step brother step sister based. But whenever she claims to the world that she is her mother. That's where things get complicated. The whole story is just come to the point if Guo will get married or not. If yes then Zhou wan and lu xi xiao relationship will actually become step brother and sister. If not( which i want, although as a character it will be hard for her mother as she invested so much in relationship and waiting for so many years for marriage) then this makes story out of the label of incest.

Now my major problem is that what Zhou wan thinks of lu xi xiao. She truly cares for him. But does she consider him as friend or lover. Idk. Because her actions seems more like friend. This whole situation from ep6-8 where she is calling him "gege" and the whole family thinking that they will be living like brother- sister is what off putting for me. In this case i just get confused as a viewer what characters are feeling and at what stage their relationship is.
Eg- when Zhou wan said she has god mother. Lu xi xiao was hurt because he loved her and can't accept her as family/ sister. But when Zhou wan was saying she is hurting lu xi xiao, from what position she is saying this? As a friend/ lover/ acquaintance what?
Their relationship was and still is based on approaching with other intention( hurting ML at some point because of whatever reason) and just on and off situation. So i don't think feelings as genuine from Zhou wan side.

I just don't understand what Zhou wan wants? She has little bit of infatuation towards lu xi xiao but then whatever she is doing it is making her like sister to ML. Why can't either she just stay either stay like lover or completely like his sister? Her completely on and off behaviour of showing care and attachment when she is just about to hurt him is worsening the situation. They are coming close during that period and after that boom the coldness she shows to ML without any explanation for whatever reason is such a red flag thing to do. Here since start atleast lu xi xiao is clear that he can never see her as his "mei mei".

This drama gives me strong vibe of "Speed and Love". Where both Jiang mu and Jin zhao went back and forth. Saying to everyone in that table that they are real siblings and at the same time holding hands romantically.

Why can't they just decide whether they want brother sister or lovers. Because on and off situation like this makes it hard for me to understand the FL feelings and tbh it's actually seems very problematic to me. I am liking this drama because something in the plot mystery of what exactly happened and how it will go and actors but this is again going to be hard watch for me.

Will give few more ep and if not then will drop it. Because i can't really with incest.

Thank you for clarifying. Synopsis was misleading. I was really not into incest relationship

Is lu xixiao step brother of Zhou wan?

Maybe because they are still healing. Maybe they are not now rushing. Specially lufeng he is trying to find content in his heart and happiness. He has the grief of the time they had lost, missing old times and just grieving on that and so much just happened in life. Story ends before the characters get healed completely so it makes sense to not have a marriage as happy ending. Because for me imo the drama gave a bittersweet ending where lufeng finally has his love of life beside him, no chasing, his soul can rest now, he has peace but his smile is restraint not like ep1-2 sunshine smile boy.
For yichen also although he finally chose for once his love but he also got broken after breaking his partner. He is trying to heal both lufeng and their relationship. He is also making good memories. These are imp before they take the decision to move to next level of their relationship aka marriage.
Not always, both ml coming together means happy ending.

Actually for me MDL ratings does mean something. Before watching any drama I first watch MDL reviews and comment section. So that I know what i should be expecting from this drama.
Like some niche dramas Bad buddy, Tharntype, Secret crush on you they have higher ratings. But those ratings doesn't even make sense. ( To me)Revenged love atleast was marketed like a toxic bl. But Secret crush on you? That drama was complete creep and stalker vibe but marketed as sweet romance.
Atleast Double Helix comes with strong warnings of serious issues so people who are not ready to watch those themes can move past. That being said MDL ratings also affect artists. If ratings are low, people consider the quality of drama to be low impacting success directly and their future prospects. That's why rating should be balanced. Say what is good along with things u don't like. Afterall there are all variety of audience. Only rating low in these kind of show will be like catering to only one mindset....

Really? I should have understood after hearing sa dingding voice in the opening song.
Thank you for recommendations but Perfect crown is not my cup of tea. I have already watched love like the galaxy. I love that drama. Meet you at the blossom when it aired i didn't liked it because of toxicity but having watched double helix....i am pretty much sure no one can top lufeng. It's kind of signal to watch that. Thank you again

Also i must tell u this i am huge cdrama lover. So china idk how but always impress me with their layered and complex storylines that I have never even imagined. Are we forgetting the untamed? Xue yang and meng yao? Both are villains but for both we have little bit of soft corner. Are we forgetting Fan xiao? You shulang literally did nothing but fan xiao destroyed everything good in his life just to prove a silly point. Are we forgetting Revenged love? Chi chen literally was known for sharing his partner with his friend and the way he just throw people to be gang raped and the way he was violent with wang shuo. Just because his relationship with wu so wei was not that level of toxic doesn't mean chi cheng was a good person. But everyone love that show for god knows why. ( Because i genuinely can't understand, not hatred to who like but my opinion i can't like that drama) No one ever point out that oh chi cheng was toxic so we should not romanticise. Because that drama never really even addressed this and chi cheng never even faced consequences for that. So i see nothing but double standards here.

Rape is a very serious topic but atleast in this drama rape was always shown wrong. Even if yichen went back to lufeng. That's yichen's problem that he went back. Show never defended lufeng of his actions.

Tbh lufeng is the blackest flag I have ever seen. But something about this drama that I felt emotional turmoil all over place. I think the beauty of this drama is that none of the characters either lufeng or yichen is good or bad. Lufeng is actually a very layered characters. I just know that rape is the reason of low ratings. Which i get it. They can't look past this and understand his other sides of pain, anger, love apart from that label. Also the notion of lufeng is the perpetrator only and yichen is victim only. And the fact that they got bittersweet ending is what making the rating low.

Something that can heal me.
1. When oranges fall( thai bl)
2. Moonlight mistique( cdrama- straight)
I tried watching good dramas that are airing rn but have some serious theme-
1. Payback
2. Ticket to heaven
Trying to watch kdrama also having serious scenes:-
1. Teach u a lesson

Waiting for:-
1. Don't be too emotional

I also want something to watch that can give me same level of emotional up and down or move me. But none is working. Am also looking for something to watch that can keep me engaged.

But emptiness that I am feeling is making me move back to novels.

If u also have recommendations let me know

Finally found one person who understood me thanks for this.

Remove rape and see story improves a little bit.
But ig author was too young when she wrote the script. The fact that she included soo many things and still they got back together in novel is truly scary. In drama directors toned it down a lotttt. And they didn't include lot of things like son involvement and 20 year thing. And i need to tell u if they adapted even 5percent of novel lufeng....he is just straight up criminal. The fact that directors put the twist of bipolar disorder and his treatment is of the good thing that they did. But still it can't save a plot which is beyond repair.

My only concern here is that the happy ending is not happy ending. It would be much better if they let go of each other earlier. Having love of ur life is good but whats the point when that love gives u nothing but pain. Or the amount of pain they bore is more than happiness. Both lufeng and yichen didn't looked happy at the end to me and no writer, director can save a plot like this.