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But how is it? She said its not good and also lot of people commented about disappointment. I was thinking to try but after these idk

https://youtu.be/frFunj3efiM?si=AdYRKY53ZnqD4dRi

Story is very engaging so i would recommend to not watch till ep20 airs otherwise with one ep per day schedule you will be suffering like us.

Agreed her position about her being in dilemma. And can I blame her for using ML to get close to her mother for money? No. Because anyone would do that to save her loved one. The only person she can truly call her as family.

In second para, u said that she break promise because she cares for him. While i don't agree with u completely i don't disagree with u also. She cares for lu xi xiao that's why she always ques herself "will this hurt him? And i am sorry" but she also break promise for money. There was point where she deleted lu xi xiao contact in wechat upon her mother's condition. But she then again approached him not because of genuine care but because she got to know that her mother lied about money and she again want to use him to get back on her mother for treatment money.
This leads me to the ques- is relationship between Zhou wan and lu xi xiao genuine? No entirely. How much of this relationship ( whatever they feel towards each other)is actually true? Not everything is fake but not everything is actually true.

Very respectfully i will disagree on one point. Being away for so many years after being abandoned sure that will lead a child think that he/ she don't have mother and if back she can't claim her motherly rights over the child specially when that child is now 18. But she will still remain her biological mother.

The fact that Guo is not married to Lu is a very valid point and tbh a relief that the story is not step brother step sister based. But whenever she claims to the world that she is her mother. That's where things get complicated. The whole story is just come to the point if Guo will get married or not. If yes then Zhou wan and lu xi xiao relationship will actually become step brother and sister. If not( which i want, although as a character it will be hard for her mother as she invested so much in relationship and waiting for so many years for marriage) then this makes story out of the label of incest.

Now my major problem is that what Zhou wan thinks of lu xi xiao. She truly cares for him. But does she consider him as friend or lover. Idk. Because her actions seems more like friend. This whole situation from ep6-8 where she is calling him "gege" and the whole family thinking that they will be living like brother- sister is what off putting for me. In this case i just get confused as a viewer what characters are feeling and at what stage their relationship is.
Eg- when Zhou wan said she has god mother. Lu xi xiao was hurt because he loved her and can't accept her as family/ sister. But when Zhou wan was saying she is hurting lu xi xiao, from what position she is saying this? As a friend/ lover/ acquaintance what?
Their relationship was and still is based on approaching with other intention( hurting ML at some point because of whatever reason) and just on and off situation. So i don't think feelings as genuine from Zhou wan side.

I just don't understand what Zhou wan wants? She has little bit of infatuation towards lu xi xiao but then whatever she is doing it is making her like sister to ML. Why can't either she just stay either stay like lover or completely like his sister? Her completely on and off behaviour of showing care and attachment when she is just about to hurt him is worsening the situation. They are coming close during that period and after that boom the coldness she shows to ML without any explanation for whatever reason is such a red flag thing to do. Here since start atleast lu xi xiao is clear that he can never see her as his "mei mei".

This drama gives me strong vibe of "Speed and Love". Where both Jiang mu and Jin zhao went back and forth. Saying to everyone in that table that they are real siblings and at the same time holding hands romantically.

Why can't they just decide whether they want brother sister or lovers. Because on and off situation like this makes it hard for me to understand the FL feelings and tbh it's actually seems very problematic to me. I am liking this drama because something in the plot mystery of what exactly happened and how it will go and actors but this is again going to be hard watch for me.

Will give few more ep and if not then will drop it. Because i can't really with incest.

Thank you for clarifying. Synopsis was misleading. I was really not into incest relationship

Is lu xixiao step brother of Zhou wan?

Maybe because they are still healing. Maybe they are not now rushing. Specially lufeng he is trying to find content in his heart and happiness. He has the grief of the time they had lost, missing old times and just grieving on that and so much just happened in life. Story ends before the characters get healed completely so it makes sense to not have a marriage as happy ending. Because for me imo the drama gave a bittersweet ending where lufeng finally has his love of life beside him, no chasing, his soul can rest now, he has peace but his smile is restraint not like ep1-2 sunshine smile boy.
For yichen also although he finally chose for once his love but he also got broken after breaking his partner. He is trying to heal both lufeng and their relationship. He is also making good memories. These are imp before they take the decision to move to next level of their relationship aka marriage.
Not always, both ml coming together means happy ending.

Actually for me MDL ratings does mean something. Before watching any drama I first watch MDL reviews and comment section. So that I know what i should be expecting from this drama.
Like some niche dramas Bad buddy, Tharntype, Secret crush on you they have higher ratings. But those ratings doesn't even make sense. ( To me)Revenged love atleast was marketed like a toxic bl. But Secret crush on you? That drama was complete creep and stalker vibe but marketed as sweet romance.
Atleast Double Helix comes with strong warnings of serious issues so people who are not ready to watch those themes can move past. That being said MDL ratings also affect artists. If ratings are low, people consider the quality of drama to be low impacting success directly and their future prospects. That's why rating should be balanced. Say what is good along with things u don't like. Afterall there are all variety of audience. Only rating low in these kind of show will be like catering to only one mindset....

Really? I should have understood after hearing sa dingding voice in the opening song.
Thank you for recommendations but Perfect crown is not my cup of tea. I have already watched love like the galaxy. I love that drama. Meet you at the blossom when it aired i didn't liked it because of toxicity but having watched double helix....i am pretty much sure no one can top lufeng. It's kind of signal to watch that. Thank you again

Also i must tell u this i am huge cdrama lover. So china idk how but always impress me with their layered and complex storylines that I have never even imagined. Are we forgetting the untamed? Xue yang and meng yao? Both are villains but for both we have little bit of soft corner. Are we forgetting Fan xiao? You shulang literally did nothing but fan xiao destroyed everything good in his life just to prove a silly point. Are we forgetting Revenged love? Chi chen literally was known for sharing his partner with his friend and the way he just throw people to be gang raped and the way he was violent with wang shuo. Just because his relationship with wu so wei was not that level of toxic doesn't mean chi cheng was a good person. But everyone love that show for god knows why. ( Because i genuinely can't understand, not hatred to who like but my opinion i can't like that drama) No one ever point out that oh chi cheng was toxic so we should not romanticise. Because that drama never really even addressed this and chi cheng never even faced consequences for that. So i see nothing but double standards here.

Rape is a very serious topic but atleast in this drama rape was always shown wrong. Even if yichen went back to lufeng. That's yichen's problem that he went back. Show never defended lufeng of his actions.

Tbh lufeng is the blackest flag I have ever seen. But something about this drama that I felt emotional turmoil all over place. I think the beauty of this drama is that none of the characters either lufeng or yichen is good or bad. Lufeng is actually a very layered characters. I just know that rape is the reason of low ratings. Which i get it. They can't look past this and understand his other sides of pain, anger, love apart from that label. Also the notion of lufeng is the perpetrator only and yichen is victim only. And the fact that they got bittersweet ending is what making the rating low.

Something that can heal me.
1. When oranges fall( thai bl)
2. Moonlight mistique( cdrama- straight)
I tried watching good dramas that are airing rn but have some serious theme-
1. Payback
2. Ticket to heaven
Trying to watch kdrama also having serious scenes:-
1. Teach u a lesson

Waiting for:-
1. Don't be too emotional

I also want something to watch that can give me same level of emotional up and down or move me. But none is working. Am also looking for something to watch that can keep me engaged.

But emptiness that I am feeling is making me move back to novels.

If u also have recommendations let me know

Finally found one person who understood me thanks for this.

Remove rape and see story improves a little bit.
But ig author was too young when she wrote the script. The fact that she included soo many things and still they got back together in novel is truly scary. In drama directors toned it down a lotttt. And they didn't include lot of things like son involvement and 20 year thing. And i need to tell u if they adapted even 5percent of novel lufeng....he is just straight up criminal. The fact that directors put the twist of bipolar disorder and his treatment is of the good thing that they did. But still it can't save a plot which is beyond repair.

My only concern here is that the happy ending is not happy ending. It would be much better if they let go of each other earlier. Having love of ur life is good but whats the point when that love gives u nothing but pain. Or the amount of pain they bore is more than happiness. Both lufeng and yichen didn't looked happy at the end to me and no writer, director can save a plot like this.

Actually imo in series also they didn't got their happy ending. Lufeng became a person who lost his spark. He has now love of his life beside him but his eyes were so sad. It's like he is happy but he is grieving the time he lost. The school days lufeng can never come back. It's gone. It scarred him for life. About anger issues yes realistically he can't make his partner happy but anger issues can be treated. My concern was more on bipolar disorder, constant on and off situation of yichen badly affected his mental health. And both yichen and lufeng has to live with it. There is no cure. On the other hand, yichen also didn't got the carefree lufeng back because of whatever reasons but he never chose lufeng. He avoided and run away. And yichen has also the problem idk how can I trust a person who run away the second something happens.

Lufeng miss the old times and want to go back and understand what happiness looks like because he don't know what is happiness now. He can now make new memories with yichen but then lufeng will always be in fear because of his disease. Yichen now has to deal with someone to whom he needs to reassure every time. Both of them needs to heal. In series, although they got together but the cost was heavy and damage was already done. So ik series also it's a very bittersweet ending. More of tragic ending for me because I don't think they can be happy now. Both are broken beyond repair.

I actually agree with what you said. This is the first drama that u hate both lufeng and yichen but u understand them as well. U don't want their happy ending but u want the happy ending because of how much the characters has suffered. U want to drop the drama but can't because story is bad but is very engaging surprisingly. It's very hard to have one opinion about the characters and drama itself.

U know that whatever happened in ep9 was not at all justified even with bipolar disorder. As a person who hate any trope with romanticising of rape and it's justification. I think even bipolar disorder can't make me understand that part.

Although I wish lufeng and yichen happy life. I hope this kind of love never finds me. This drama was pure torture and it was just wayyyy tooooo toxic for me. I don't think anyone can ever produce a toxic black flag like lufeng.

Slice of Life is not my cup of tea. But after netflix release. I am here at ep3. Ep1 made me cry because that's how much relatable it is..i was sobbing hard just like hongdou. Ep2 yes as a person who feels naturally relaxed and sense of healing i relate that with hongdou. She seems to be much smiling in village...that's how a person grieving for their loved ones and accepting the truth feels like. It's like a slow process. I am amazed that how much this is relatable to me. Feels like a part of my soul is also healing along with hongdou.

I truly don't want to drop this drama. But again slice of life has never worked out for me. So fingers crossed 🤞

He is a talented person. I mean it would have taken so much effort for him to ruin head2 head and making me feel nothing about SeaKeen when they are one of my fav cp.