Wait that mr. Qu jiao, died jst like that? His killing scene wasn't even shown? Jst mentioned that he was killed??…
I thought the same thing! But later, it turned out the guy was completely insignificant, there were much bigger fish waiting to be taken down. DPJ’s end, for example, was deeply satisfying.
I just watched some interview with Xiao Zhan, and his description of Zang Hai as a "gambler who's often playing the odds with his own life" is such a great way to put it. He's smart, but he really does take a lot of risks.
I love listening to Xiao Zhan talking about his own characters. He's always so insightful. 🤌🏻
Halfway through the drama and maybe this is an unpopular opinion but...I don't think Zang Hai's motivation for…
Revenge is usually a deeply personal matter, it doesn’t depend on some broader sense of justice or the common good. I might not care if a terrible tragedy happened to a group of people unrelated to me, but if someone massacred and flayed my family, I would want revenge for that. Also, ZH at first didn't know what MPH wanted from his father/what his father 'stole'.
As for MPJ, he did suspect and even test him. However, ZH helped him several times in important matters, and MPJ has no solid proof that he’s the one targeting members of his household. Besides, none of them are truly innocent, so the possibility that their own schemes might be discovered and used against them isn’t far-fetched.
Now that LZH has ended, it's time to starve again. Just one movie coming up, and one drama that only just started filming. 😭 Selfishly, I really do hope his next project won’t be another movie, because watching him over 40 episodes, instead of just two hours, is an entirely different experience.
ZBW is truly a psychopath in core. You can see his back story that since young, he has been the most brutal among…
Okay, but ... I don’t know about you, but if someone told me my father was a psychopath who orchestrated the massacre of an entire family, and worse, I wouldn’t believe it right away. I’d have doubts and want to find out the truth for myself, even if it was a friend who told me.
ZBW is truly a psychopath in core. You can see his back story that since young, he has been the most brutal among…
Yes, I understand that, but I wish they had shown it on screen. In his interactions with his daughter, he came across as a kind man. He let her do whatever she wanted, and in one of their conversations, he even said they had relied on each other after her mother’s death. His daughter never showed any signs of resenting him, so her not standing up for him at all felt off. Their relationship had always been portrayed as good. That’s my only complaint. I get that she might’ve sensed something was wrong, but it’s different having to imagine that versus actually seeing it unfold on screen.
ZBW is truly a psychopath in core. You can see his back story that since young, he has been the most brutal among…
I actually think his relationship with his daughter should’ve been developed more. It seemed like they had a good bond, and then suddenly she just betrayed him. I would’ve liked to see more tension or friction leading up to that.
And yeah, he was a total psychopath. The moment he laid out his plan for the Gui Seal, I instantly thought, “Yep, that’s a psychopath.”
There’s one scene I keep thinking about. In episode 38, when Zang Hai lies down to be executed/suffocated. Zhao Bingwen is in the same room, completely still and cold, overseeing the whole thing without a word. He’s watching the death of the boy he once saved, trained (practically groomed) and sent to face his enemies, knowing full well the risks, and he just sits there as he silently twitches, and then finally 'dies' and goes still. The whole scene is so chilling. The quiet brutality of the situation, and the tragedy of Zang Hai’s life, used, deceived, and in the end discarded. I can’t stop thinking about it.
It's one of those scenes that will stay with me for a long time. It was just so tragic and masterfully done.
Zhao Bingwen’s death was poetic justice, he was ultimately destroyed by the very obsession that had caused so many others to die. That scene with the ghost soldiers, and ZH walking through them, was amazing!
I went offline MDL and X and binged. I do not want any spoilers for this drama. 😅
I've already seen a few, but they are good spoilers. It's impossible to open X and see none. I basically scrolled through TL with my eyes half closed 🤣
Y'all, I'm traumatized by spoilers. No matter what I open, I can't escape them, and I won't be able to watch the last three episodes until tonight. I guess I'm going offline until then.
where you'll watch Chinese dramas? I do watch kdramas on Movie box but this is not available there? I am planing…
You can find all episodes on YouTube, most Chinese dramas are available there. You can also watch them on international version of Chinese streaming apps: WeTV (The Untamed is on this one), Youku and iQiyi, but you usually have to pay subscription. Then there are sites like kisskh, most things can be found there for free. I mostly use that one.
One thing I like about the female characters in this drama is that they’re strong and capable, but the show doesn’t shove the whole 'women are strong' message in my face every other scene. They just are, and it feels normal. It's a male centric drama, but every female character, no matter how small their role is, is written so well. Love it!
Also, am I the only one who finds that emperor scary? He's creeping me out.
its how an eunuch had so much power at the time, absolutely crazy and this is the second drama i have watched…
I'm not very familiar with Chinese history, but throughout history, it wasn’t uncommon for eunuchs to seize power during the reigns of weak emperors or regent queens. The Byzantine Empire comes to mind, eunuchs there held significant power. It’s probably a similar case in Chinese history, and it does make an interesting setting for a drama.
Okay, I'm glad the mother isn't the third person, because the way things were going, it seemed like Zang Hai would’ve chosen love over revenge if he had to make a choice, and that would’ve really pissed me off and ruined the entire drama. Now he doesn’t have to choose and can have both, which is great.
But yeah, his masters look even more suspicious now.
I'm really enjoying this, like, I love every bit of it... except the FL. She is insufferable and extremely arrogant/entitled.
I don't particularly like her relationship with ZH either. She did act bratty and was annoying at times, but since she didn’t know his plans or what was really going on, and was just meddling unknowingly, I give her a pass. Aside from those moments where her behavior toward him irked me, I actually quite like her. She's capable and useful, which is nice. 😅
is there info on how this is related to the lost tomb franchise?
I haven’t watched The Lost Tomb movies, but from what I’ve read here, Zang Hai is the man who built the tombs and structures that appear in them. Aside from his name being mentioned, it’s not a direct continuation or anything like that. Someone more familiar with the lore can feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.
I love listening to Xiao Zhan talking about his own characters. He's always so insightful. 🤌🏻
Also, ZH at first didn't know what MPH wanted from his father/what his father 'stole'.
As for MPJ, he did suspect and even test him. However, ZH helped him several times in important matters, and MPJ has no solid proof that he’s the one targeting members of his household. Besides, none of them are truly innocent, so the possibility that their own schemes might be discovered and used against them isn’t far-fetched.
But yeah, whatever he chooses I won't complain.
And yeah, he was a total psychopath. The moment he laid out his plan for the Gui Seal, I instantly thought, “Yep, that’s a psychopath.”
It's one of those scenes that will stay with me for a long time. It was just so tragic and masterfully done.
One thing I like about the female characters in this drama is that they’re strong and capable, but the show doesn’t shove the whole 'women are strong' message in my face every other scene. They just are, and it feels normal. It's a male centric drama, but every female character, no matter how small their role is, is written so well. Love it!
Also, am I the only one who finds that emperor scary? He's creeping me out.
But yeah, his masters look even more suspicious now.
Someone more familiar with the lore can feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.