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On Love and Crown Nov 29, 2025
Title Love and Crown Spoiler
The plot twists for today episode is just so amazing. I did not expect that at all:
1) Empress Dowager killed the former Emperor.
2) Empress Dowager killed Xiao Huan's mother.
3) Empress Dowager had a hand in Xiao Huan's cold disease since birth.
4) Ying'er fire incident actually not to kill Xiao Huan but Ying'er since she happened to witness the killing of the Emperor by Empress Dowager. She seriously keep using her children as pawns SMH.
5) Du's trick for Empress Dowager to buried alive since she killed her mother. 😬

I can't believe they gave us this 5 revelations in 2 episodes lol.

Anyway, I'm positive this is just Xiao Huan's scheme to bring Preceptor Du down. It seemed he join hand with Qing'er to do that. I love how the brothers always work together since the beginning right until the end. We really need positive sibling relationship like this in Cdramas.

Anyway, I want this drama to be more dramatic and I certainly got that. 😆
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On Love and Crown Nov 29, 2025
I just want to say my appreciation of Cang Cang as a character in this episode. I know some viewers hated her guts before but I can't seemed to dislike her since she was kept in the dark most of the times no matter how much she wants the truth and kept asking. And most of her reaction at the Palace are trauma response that clouded most of her judgements from seeing things clearly.

But once she's out of the Palace starting episode 15, you can see how clear headed she has becomes. Then after learning the truth, no matter what happened after that, she never the same again no matter how much her Dad wants to manipulate her.

In this episode, while most dramas like to use the miscarriage plot to drive the couple apart from each other, you can see how she didn't blame anyone, not even the Princess for it. Instead of feeling being with Xiao Huan makes her constantly in danger, she adamantly want to go through this with him and even asked him to rationally punish Princess Ying and Qing'er despite you know how heartbroken she is from losing the baby. And that is her true personality when no one kept secrets from her and we can see how rational she is.

Even when Xiao Huan didn't say who is the mastermind behind the whole thing, she knew it's her Dad right away since she can connect the dots herself. And I like her even more in the coming episodes as she truly become his strength instead of his weakness and he started to see it too than just trying to actively protect her from everything.
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Replying to tsuyoi_hikari Nov 29, 2025
But rumour has it that Youku will give this drama a happy ending. I hope! XDI dont want to trust just hearsay…
Agreed. The ending is beautifully done and make sense that I can't even hate it. But, I never have the courage to watch it again. One & Only is the same for me as well. At least Love of Nirvana, I can still rewatch it but One & Only, I can't even rewatch it anymore - - not even the beginning part of the drama. That's how much the drama hurts me lol.

Im confident that this time around, it's gonna be a HEA for Love & Crown. 😁 Let's hope it's really a HEA. I don't mind if it's a forced happy ending, I'm too starved for a HEA for RJL drama. 🤣
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Replying to Optimistic Ritz Nov 29, 2025
If they would have given us proper reconciliation scene and some sweet scenes after that how nice it would have…
His acting has always been magnificent. Despite this weak script, he managed to put depth into his character with his nuance potrayal of Xiao Huan. I'm just amazed. :D
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Replying to Optimistic Ritz Nov 27, 2025
If they would have given us proper reconciliation scene and some sweet scenes after that how nice it would have…
I don't mind the want to focus on the other characters, do all of that. But not at the expense of the story. Like are we supposed to expect they reconcile on their own without showing it at all? After all the angst. It's insulting to viewers who waited this long for Cang Cang to finally truly understand Xiao Huan - - that all his devotion towards her actually reciprocal by her as well. They really did her dirty by skipping that scene. Now viewers will hated her even more. Poor PXR.
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Replying to Justtwoofus Nov 26, 2025
They forget to add their reconciliation moment, and you are right I hope this time Xiao huan also plan something…
It's just bad writing at this point. See, how other couples get flash out relationship and how all the screen time are given to them. The main couple are just being used for angst and for people to watch the drama. But after everything, they didn't even want to give us a proper scenes between them. In this 3 episodes after she learning out the truth, the only get 5 minutes of scene together. 😂 Gosh, my hate for Huanrui dramas continue for eternity. 🙃
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Replying to Optimistic Ritz Nov 26, 2025
If they would have given us proper reconciliation scene and some sweet scenes after that how nice it would have…
I know that this is Huanrui's drama and they did this to market their other actors using RJL's name but the lack of respect is too much lol. Give them all the scenes, but not at the expense of the story. Sometimes, he just appear merely 30 secs in 1 episode lol. I can't believe they just overlook the reconciliation scene which is supposed to be the most important scene for this drama. They really took us as a joke. We stay and wasn't getting rewarded. I have to console myself yesterday. At this rate, I probably cry silently like the original book writer with how dissapointed I am with this drama lol. 🤣
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Replying to Mrs Gong Nov 26, 2025
“Another excellent explanation. That stargazing moment truly hit hard. When I watched last night’s episode,…
What a beautifully written post. I agree so much on your last paragraph. The script is terrible but the characters are so human and layered with lot of depth.

It's the performance that elevate Xiao Huan and why we see him in such rose coloured glass. It's how RJL play the character with so much nuance that he made it so heartbreakingly compelling despite we don't agree with his decision. It's amazing really how effective is great performance can give to superficial writing like this.
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Replying to Mrs Gong Nov 26, 2025
Yes, this drama is honestly disappointing. We all knew the script was trash from the moment the synopsis dropped.…
I can't agree for more. The actors are carrying the drama and to have that kind of depth and substance for their characters despite this terrible script is definitely a talent.

The screentime that RJL got is totally a joke lol. I know this is Huanrui drama to promote their other actors but to use him blantly like this is very insulting. 😅 He appeared for 30 sec in one episode. Then 2 whole minute in another episode. And in the latest episode, he is the supporting actor for supporting actors' scenes. It's truly remarkable how he is so graceful about this and never complain.
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Replying to Optimistic Ritz Nov 26, 2025
When I watched today's episode at first I was like ok it's going well. Then our second leads appeared, I was like…
Immortal Samsara is not well received. If you do to Douban, the amount of people who love, neutral and hate it is more or less the same which resulted with flat graph. It's very interesting. No other drama managed to get that kind of graph.
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On Love and Crown Nov 26, 2025
One thing I love is how wrong I am about Xiao Huan. When the drama started, I thought his chess moves are still less than Grand Tutor and he will only refine it later. How wrong I am since he actually already started made a move since he is 14 years old in that snow incident.

Also, I love how there are layers in his chess moves. While Grand Tutor usually planted his moves by killing 2 or 3 birds with 1 stone, Xiao Huan in the other hand always camouflage his chess moves with different layers. First, when he cuts off XianXue's finger - - on the surface, it shows how merciful he is that he didn't take his life but actually, the real reasons he kept him alive since he knew XianXue is the answer to Grand Tutor's evil deeds since he is his right hand man. That's why he always let XianXue's go and monitor him hoping that he will bring evidence for him. While this can be viewed as a weakness since he is 'soft', actually he has bigger plan which is to catch the bigger fish. He did the same method here when he let XianXue go again since he want to trail him to get evidence and he did this while appearing to please Cang Cang. All in all, I think he is definitely the better chess master now. Everytime Grand Tutor plan something, Xiao Huan already made his moves 2 or 3 steps ahead like the scheme in this episode. And his smile when Grand Tutor warned him about not finishing him off is another hint that he comes prepared. I just can't wait to know what is his plan this time around. 😁

But, Grand Tutor 'love as weakness' scheme definitely gonna hurt since now he plan to use Preceptor Du's love towards Xiao Huan as his next move. Okay, the twist about her being his sister is definitely shocking. And also Xiao Huan's love towards Cang Cang which is no doubt his biggest weakness now.

Anyway, I can't believe how bad is the writing lol. After all 20 episodes of maximum angst, the writer didn't even give us the reconciliation scene between the couple where they cleared up all the misunderstandings. Instead, we got scenes with other couples and how the royal couple already made up and now flirting with each other. Gosh, how there is no pay off after all that prolonged angst? 😑
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Replying to tsuyoi_hikari Nov 26, 2025
But rumour has it that Youku will give this drama a happy ending. I hope! XDI dont want to trust just hearsay…
The drama is so smartly written so I love watching it and discover new things that I didn't realise before. But of course, didn't have the courage to watch the ending again. I always stop after the Yueluo arc. 🤣
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Replying to Terenia-Shaiana Nov 22, 2025
Do you think they should have re-edited this drama? I don’t think they would have done it anyway, because they…
I just think they shouldn't have adapted the IP in the first place. If you want to force someone to do one drama, at least pick a better story that is more suitable now. No one want to watch misunderstanding filled drama with noble idiocy no matter how makes sense it is for the characters to do that in the drama. :(

I also think this should have been better edited since I read this is PXR's welcome gift when she joined Huanrui. Huanrui supposed to promote this drama intensively since its an S+ drama but I guess they realized that no one want to watch this kind of story anymore and totally left it with zero promotion which I find cruel esp for PXR.

Ohh I'm actually really excited for Fate Chooses You though. It was written by TDHR writer and I love her writing in general and it was directed by a famous director. So, I'm actually have faith that the drama going to be great.

Thus comes to the question why Wang Herun got better writer & director than PXR. I just dont understand how Huanrui works tbh. The favoritism is so apparent sometimes that I scratch my head why they do that.
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Replying to Optimistic Ritz Nov 22, 2025
When I watched today's episode at first I was like ok it's going well. Then our second leads appeared, I was like…
I know the leads wont appear anymore after that since thats the kind of editing they have been doing so far in the drama. If you look back at previous episodes, they always finish one arc till the end before moving to another arc with completely different characters. Which is weird since it makes the story so uneven.
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Replying to BearFightingFanBackAgain Nov 22, 2025
When people were complaining about a few minutes I thought it was exaggeration to then be shocked by it really…
When I see the who will write the script, I even more afraid to watch the drama since I do not like her writing. But I was surprised with how well written some of the things in the drama so I thought I probably underestimate her too much. ^^'

But looking at the overall drama so far, its just uneven so its really distracting to me since I'm used to watch dramas that flow naturally and organic. I think they might hire a novice editing team to edit this drama to save cost lol.

Do you mind telling me regarding the arrow injury plotline from the book? When did it happen? Who got shot?
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On Love and Crown Nov 22, 2025
I've been nervous about this drama for 2 years ever since it was announced back then. Why nervous? Since its Huanrui's script and if anyone know, they have the kind of reputation to produce something like this. All I could think why would anyone decided to adapt an IP like this knowing full well it will not be accepted well by the public. If this drama is release like 10 years ago, this kind of storyline would work but not now in my humble opinion. But since RJL has to do this in order to end his contract, it is something that can be avoided. So, having used to the kind of quality his dramas usually offered, well watching this drama is certainly different haha.

But, once I watched it, it wasnt as bad as I think it would be. The drama is a mess, far from perfect and has many issues yet the acting and chemistry really carry the drama. It is really entertaining despite the over the top angst. I also happen to enjoy the scheming and mind games in the drama which sometimes impressed me since it is multi-layered and in stages -- some of the result of the schemes or mind games can only be seen after a few episodes which I really enjoy decipher and analyze. So, it wasnt THAT bad.

However, I just dont understand why they do this kind of editing where everything seemed so uneven. Some character only appear after a few episodes then disappear and appear again when they are needed. And the funniest thing when leads only appear for like 2 minutes in one episode lol. They supposed to spread all of the plot equally so it appear seamlessly where all the characters supposed to exist individually in the story -- not only appear when it is needed by the plot. But what we get? It was like one arc, we go through it till the end and finished then they show another arc with different characters. This is the first time I've seen something like this so I was shocked with how uneven is the story. After so long in the industry, sometimes I dont understand the kind of quality that Huanrui dramas always deliver. Didnt they already received so much criticism with The Journey of Legend? Havent they learn anything? SMH
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Replying to Optimistic Ritz Nov 22, 2025
Wow another beautiful analysis from you. About the food being a metaphor, I never thought it in that way. I also…
Same. I would probably accept that nickname for him. 😂 Back to back 3 sad ending dramas is the most I can accept. 😂😂😂😂😂

Dont worry. We have Fate Chooses You. 💪💪 That one is a sure 100% Happy Ending. :D Plus, we can always fall on Forever & Ever everytime he gave this kind of heart attack on us lol
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Replying to Optimistic Ritz Nov 22, 2025
Wow another beautiful analysis from you. About the food being a metaphor, I never thought it in that way. I also…
I agree. Its soooo stressful watching RJL in this role. When I watched Episode 10 a few days ago, I need to cleanse myself by watching Forever & Ever again. XD

I love how we can find things to enjoy in this drama despite both of us are nervous about it. But it wasn't as bad as I think it initially would be. So I'm grateful that I actually enjoy watching it instead of being pissed or bored -- this 2 is worst since this is what I feel when I watched Blue Flame Assaults haha. Love & Crown is a mess but it is enjoyable. Not that bad. And we are going to get Fate Chooses You and Silent Tides after this. At least we can finally relax lol.

Hope the ending wont disappoint. I would be mad that every Youku drama out there get a happy ending and if they didnt give for this one, its so unfair and I probably will be convinced that RJL are probably cursed. :(
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Replying to tsuyoi_hikari Nov 22, 2025
But rumour has it that Youku will give this drama a happy ending. I hope! XDI dont want to trust just hearsay…
Same, Love of Nirvana ending will forever traumatized me. I always rewatching the show and now watching the earlier scenes already made me shed tears -- like the scene where he is eating alone at Nanling, staring to nothingness and Jiang Ci saw him from afar -- its all to show how lonely and burdened he is with the things he has to carry on his shoulder. 💔 Wei Zhou as a character is just too tragic -- more tragic than Xiao Huan in this drama.

In this drama, Xiao Huan avoid eating sweet after his mother's death to remind him the bitterness of life.

But in Love of Nirvana, Wei Zhou eat sweet to remind him the sweetness of life so he carry them everywhere. The fact he has to do that since he cant experience those feeling physically what made the whole thing so tragic. T.T
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Replying to Angelmission Nov 22, 2025
someone in youtube told the sad ending, eventhough the novel is happy ending. Considering Ren Jia Lun and PXR…
But rumour has it that Youku will give this drama a happy ending. I hope! XD

I dont want to trust just hearsay but lots of Youtube comments always seemed misleading and spread something that is not true. I always have to correct them.

RJL doenst have that many sad ending dramas (only 4 dramas out of 20++ dramas) same as PXR. But their iconic roles (One & Only and Goodbye My Princess) indeed ended tragically. 😬
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