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I actually did watched Kill Me Heal Me when it was airing years ago but abandoned it half way. I actually quite excited to watch the drama as I like the leads and considered that their drama 'Secret' is the best drama of 2013 but didnt really like the writing and how Hwang Jung Eum played her character. While I thought she did a fantastic job in Secret, I found her very unconvincing as a doctor. And I cant relate to the story either as I was puzzled why Se Gi falls for her when he just see her a few times haha. And since you said it had better plot and writing, it makes me more keen to pick up the drama again.
Regarding how Jin Woo can use the 'instance dungeon' feature, I guess it is because he was asked by the game. Remember, everything in the game was being lead on one by one by the instruction? 'Do you want to use the watch?' 'Do you want to form an allies?' So once Jin Woo become the Game Master, and before Emma deleting the game, Jin Woo was asked by the game whether he wants to use the 'instance dungeon' feature as that is his reward from winning the game.
The other users can see Jin Woo now as they are playing the game and wearing the lenses. All game users can see Jin Woo if he made an appearance that is why the guy at the restaurant insisted that Jin Woo is not NPC but an advanced user. ‘Instance Dungeon’ is to make one become invisible from the enemies and hide themselves. Se Joo did hide himself for 1 year as Marco is there to hunt him so he keep using the instance dungeon feature to remain safe. Jin Woo in the other hand just use the feature to save himself from getting deleted by Emma. So if he didn't use the instant dungeon feature, other game users can see him.
But I have to disagree with you regarding the romance part. I thought it was done very tastefully and slowly. You could see why Hee Joo falls fo Jin Woo. The mixture of Jin Woo kindness (still giving her the full amount of the contract), to him touching her soft spot (playing guitar), to him still taking care of his ex-wife (despite he didnt need to), to him facing real & death situation when he falls at her hostel, to her taking care of him and Jin Woo asking her to stay... And later when she realised the length Jin Woo went through to find Se Joo. I mean, lets be honest -- anyone would when a man like Jin Woo appear in front of our eyes (good looking, rich, successful, respectful). Heck, we will fall for Jin Woo even if he is just sitting there reading a dictionary lol! 8D
And as for Jin Woo, its obvious that he falls for Hee Joo's kindness and strength. He was impressed with her ability to feed her family and was also taken back by her kindness (the length she is willing to go to help him either in interpreting to taking care of him when he's sick), to her quirkiness on how she explodes when she's mad. Plus, the most important of all is how her presence made him feels safe -- even when Hyeong Seok NPC is in front of him (during the rain scene). Hee Joo is like a buffer between the game and Jin Woo. He just unintentionally ask her to stay by his side since he is just too scared to be alone. He didnt understand it either but later, he realised that he likes her for her sincerity -- the one he never get from Su Jin or Yu Ra. And he actually smile and laugh when she is around him which he never did the whole 1 year after their last meeting at Granada when the game make him questioning his sanity. That is why he had the urge to see her before he completed the final mission since she is someone important in his life. IMO, the romance part was dealt with many minor details and mature way thats why I ended up really liking how their relationship grows despite the horrible situation they're in -- its not too much nor too little. When you are deal with real life and death situation, your feelings intensifies which explain their relationship perfectly.
'The silent moment when I become you, and you become me.'
'The more I keep trying, the more 'me' I end up discovering.'
'Somehow, you and I have become us.'
Even Seo Jin realised that Robin is after all him when he saved Hana at the warehouse. Noticed that usually, all DID related movies/dramas just removing/letting go all the different personalities at the end and but this one it combined them together because they are the same person. Seo Jin created Robin as a defense mechanism to cope with his self-blame and cowardice. And for years, he hated and wanted to destroy Robin. But it later changed when he realised that Robin is after all him. Aside from getting Robin memories one by one, Seo Jin's mannerism changed and he become happier and gentler just like Robin as he is receiving his feelings as well. Robin is just like a dream that he cant remember. And Hana is the cure of that when she made him remember all those dream when he was Robin (like he described in the end).
The dissatisfaction that many people have towards the different treatment between Seo Jin and Robin should not exist as they are one person at the end. The way to see this drama is that you should not be jealous of one part of yourself as you are the same person. That is what Seo Jin decided to do at the end. He accepted Robin as he knew Robin is after all him -- noticed how he no longer sabotaged Robin & Hana's relationship because he knew that Robin is after all him. Memories is what makes a person. Without memories, a person will be empty. Seo Jin having all Robin's memories and feelings (notice how he even tear up suddenly at the bridge) at the end is indicate that he is after all Robin. Robin is Seo Jin and Seo Jin is Robin. They are the same person.
Now regarding the issues that many people have problem with this drama. I personally thought many people seemed to misunderstand the message that the writer trying to tell us:
Jin Woo is the key as Se Joo makes the rules of the game like that. Supposedly, if the game has no error, once Jin Woo got the key, he just give the key to Emma and win the game (becoming the Game Master). But, since Se Joo made one of Emma's feature to delete bugs and reset the game as well, Jin Woo unintentionally become the key for the error game to reset itself as he is a bug. But he doesnt need to kill Marco as Marco is Se Joo's bug and not him. Plus, he cant see Marco anyway unless Se Joo made an alliance with him. So Jin Woo only need to kill his bugs and himself in order to reset the game.
Unfortunately, while I love the show and happy for it to have a second season, I dont think its going to happen as the writer did end everything properly:
1) Jin Woo reset the game so the game is now free from error.
2) Jin Woo survived by hiding in Instant Dungeon.
3) Hee Joo knew that Jin Woo is still alive and will try to save him from the game.
2) Woo Jin wake up as Bluebird hacked the system and the medication they gave to put him in constant sleep stops as well. Its a total blackout.
3) Again, its due to Bluebird made a complete blackout of the facility so all doors open automatically.
I love the fact that the writers are very creative in coming up with this complex story that made you question about everything only to be proven wrong episodes later. The writers also love to tease/mislead the audiences with the way they structure the plots.
Simply the most compelling Kdramas I have ever watch and no doubt in my book as one of the greatest Kdramas ever made.
Even the final scene is brilliant as well. The solved everything at the end but to excite the audiences with the sci-fiction theme that they're going for, they put that little bit mystery at the end. It opens for future possibilities and made people speculate about what could happened after that.
Great movies / dramas always made people talk and speculate about the ending and this drama is exactly like that as well. Some people might dislike it but this is one aspect of creative writing and with the way everything is structured since in the beginning of the drama, we should expect the non-typical finish that the writers might give us at the end. They certainly didnt disappoint.
This drama is seriously amazing. I have watch like gazillion of Kdramas for the past 15 years and I can safely said that the writing for this drama is the best that ever comes out from Korea. It is intelligent, excellently written and the clever details is just mind blowing. The writer is great at constructing plot without leaving any minor details. The script is tight, solid, complicated without plot holes and full of characters with great depth and personalities without including any questionable or dumb plot in its storyline. I have high expectation before watching the show but this drama truly exceeded my already high expectations. The writers made everyone, including the main character as the possible suspects and yet, she is still able to surprise us with the ending.
I feel like no other investigation dramas can hold a candle to this other than Signal. Other law or investigation dramas always bother me with the inaccurate technical practices and details but this drama have none of those and it didn't insult you intelligent either. It's simply a brilliant cat & mouse chase drama where both the good and the bad guys are clever.
SECRET FOREST IS PERFECT IN QUALITY SENSE -- I dont even know it is possible until I watch this drama. There's nothing to complain about the script, plot, directing and acting as it is that good.
But Bogum are more known for his innocent roles though. :)
But Bogum are more known for his innocent roles though. :)
- About why cant people return once they become a Master, I personally think its a mistake by the writer in trying to be clever with her ending lol. She obviously wanted to be creative but kind of backfired. She supposed to make Jin Woo return back to normal once Emma stab and delete Zinu. Zinu is the bug and not Jin Woo so Jin Woo was not supposed to be deleted from the world. But of course, it seemed to much on her part to give such a sad character a clear happy end. It seemed like we appreciate Jin Woo more than her which kind of made me mad as a writer supposed to have a certain emotional attachment towards her main characters but since she is so adamant in making Jin Woo tragic till the end, it make me sad.. But in the other hand, Jin Woo probably cant return to the real world as Emma has reset the game and there's no medium for him to make himself appear. Thus, he only appear 1 year later when they on back the server when the new game is released. :P
- I understand regarding the explanation on certain things. If you read my review, it is also one of the concerns I had. But since this is a fantasy drama, the writer just lump it up as part of 'fantasy' element of the story that all of these things happened. We know the start is Emma when she combine the game and real world together when Se Joo was stabbed with real knife. The error start there and everything become haywire after that. That is why Se Joo is also afraid for his life as he didnt know what to expect once the game has glitch. But good thing that despite the glitch, it still follow the game rules thus they can play around with it to save themselves aka 'instant dungeon' feature that Se Joo created. I think just like Harry Potter where we have this magical world that existed where all the magical stuffs happen, the writer aimed for all the sinister part of the game was caused by the new world that Emma created. Like Jin Woo, he also explore that 'world' and learn the rules of the game to make himself survive.
- Regarding when things are real or when it is just game, it got to do with the attack by the NPCs whether it cause you real pain or not. What we know is that real pain is only caused by Dr. Cha NPC (bug). But its all changed when Jin Woo got to Granada to accomplished the final mission. After that, all attack has become real that even his limps cured. That is why he said; 'After all, Granada is indeed a City of Magic' as he predicted. As Jin Woo is learning the new rules of the error caused by Emma, we are also learning it together with him. Just like anyone who form an alliance with him will share the same fate as him -- Jin Woo only knew this after 1 year.
- Jin Woo also didnt know that he need to be stabbed for the game to end. He thought he just passed the key for it to end but when the first time Emma stabbed him, he figured out that 'Zinu' is also a bug and must be destroyed.
- Regarding why he cant start with a clean version of the game, then he will never find Se Joo as Se Joo was stucked in the error game created by Emma. And he can only restart the game once Emma killed all the bugs. Note that he always said 'I dont know', 'I dont know' to everyone because he really didnt know. What he know is that completing the mission could be the answer to find Se Joo thus he did exactly that. Plus, Dr. Cha NPC is there to kill him everyday thus he needed a closure not running away and start everything anew when the past will keep haunting him everyday.
- Agreed on your last part. Se Joo is undeniably slow. I mean, he only told anyone that Jin Woo could be stuck in the dungeon one year after the event. I mean, he is the creator, he should have known this earlier lol.
- Like I said, the writer obviously trying to be 'groundbreaking' in her ending but backfired. But it doesnt mean that she didnt aim for a happy end and my original post is to highlight that as I noticed many viewers didnt really understand her ending.