I have a question, and I apologize for being wordy about it. I've seen a few times in this thread that idol names and companies are not to be used. As mentioned above, we don't tag for Grand Prize winners (the show OR the cast members), Oscar winners, management companies [some feel certain agencies contract with consistently amazing talent and help them choose great projects, etc.]. Nothing about cast members' other achievements is tagged.
The issue (well, 1 of 2): I'm constantly seeing pages using the names of idol GROUPS in tags (sometimes flooding them when a few groups have people in a drama etc), and naturally the fans of those groups vote up those tags even when the group has nothing to do with the plot. If someone likes an idol, they can just go to their profile pages and see what they're in, the same way we do for everybody else.
Unless a title is not ABOUT the group (BIGBANG The Movie), showing them AS MEMBERS OF the group (EXO Next Door) or made SPECIFICALLY FOR/to promote the group (ie ASTRO's Soul Plate thingy or maybe a better example would be the sci-fi multiple timeline one where P1H members are both cast members and have some odd music video thing in it), why do we feature their idol group as one of the tags?
I don't really understand why we'd put, in a section usually meant for themes, storyline/plot features, character details, some production details (filmed abroad, co-produced etc), anything about the idol cast for some role in it when nothing about non-idol cast members goes in tags. As someone pointed out, we don't put romance as both a genre and a tag... so why have an actor be represented as both a cast member and a tag just because they happen to also be idols? (I don't even know which cast members are in a band most of the time. I'm watching an actor in that performance, not an idol, just like when I'm on MDL, I'm here as an Asian drama/film fan, not any of the other hats I wear day to day.)
I don't see any sense in having a dozen dozen (144) titles lumped together just because an EXO member is on screen for any length of time. Their character might hum or sing, but their character isn't part of EXO-no one thinks Scarlet Heart Ryeo or 100 Days My Prince (both historical dramas in the top 20) are about EXO, but that's precisely why it shouldn't be a tag. It makes it more difficult to find titles that ARE about EXO when you have 144 to sift through because EXO fans are tossing their band name anywhere a member is spotted, not when the band is the focus. Of the top 20 EXO-tagged ones, only 1, EXO Next Door, is actually -about- them. Of the other 19, a member of theirs is an actor/cast member (and credited as such) for 18 and a credited guest for a game show for the 19th. (Honestly, I don't know that we -need- a tag of EXO for EXO Next Door since they do indeed star in it AND the name of it is a giveaway, too, so you don't even need to search the tags... maybe if a documentary that didn't actually feature them OR one where actors played them like some post-mortem documentaries do-I don't know of anything in the database that quite fits that description for idols at least-historical figures, sure, but idols probably not yet?).
I've yet to watch anything Girls' Generation was even a MINOR theme in, but 60 shows are tagged with it and of the first 20 only TWO make any sense to use that tag for: a documentary about their agency's bands, I AM, and a Survival TV show w/what appears to be several girl groups competing, Girls Planet 999.
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There's also a lot of mixing up of idol actor/idol actress and idol-I don't know if people just add all of them any time there are idols in something, but even when the idol is playing a non-entertainer character, those get used and make it impossible to look for shows ABOUT idols, ie idol characters, which I've always thought was the point of tags, not... propping up music groups every time one of their members is in something whether as a lead, support, cameo, or favorite band of a character/poster on the wall. That's what their profile pages and fandom forums and wikis are for, right? But I'm old, so the evolution of tags into what feels senseless to me as a film and drama viewer vs a stan machine might make me the irrelevant one. (I know I'm irrelevant, but I don't think it makes me SUCH a snob to want tags to be about story lines, not cast members.)
Random PS: If they aren't playing idols in the show, it kind of seems like spitting on their acting career by clarifying "oh, it's an idol" through tags when that isn't exactly a glorifying thing to say most of the time-it's like an apology given in advance in case the performance is bad. ^.~
Can we get permission to purge the idol group names for content their members are just acting in, not the subject of? Do we also have any way to clear up the idol actor/actress and idol tags so we're not just tossing it up every time someone who's ever been an idol is in a film, drama, special, etc? I can post a pretty detailed list of K-pop ones just based on shows I know of, but without an actual list of tags that's a bit difficult to catch them all. It'd be much easier to just delete bad name tags entirely unless at some point there is a documentary that's ABOUT a group but doesn't actually feature them-they have CAST/GUEST credits for anything they're in, after all.
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