I see kdrama fans hate on big age gaps but jdrama fans seem to be more OK with it. I don't see the same judgement from jdrama fans. 

Kdrama audience is young,young people nowadays lack critical thinking and believe that a 30 year old dating a 19 year old is grooming,thus they think its immoral and try to cancel it.
Jdrama audience is used to a lot of sensitive topics being touched,doubt anyone cares about age gaps.

 LouM:
a 30 year old dating a 19 year old is grooming

LoL this is so true. Not to mention anyone dating a High School girl is pedophile nowadays despite the girl is already 18 and the guy in early 20's. But another 18 yo High School boy would have an easy blessing to date 18 yo High School girl though.

 TimiZero:

LoL this is so true. Not to mention anyone dating a High School girl is pedophile nowadays despite the girl is already 18 and the guy in early 20's. But another 18 yo High School boy would have an easy blessing to date 18 yo High School girl though.

Or like in Kdrama where it's OK if the older person is a woman, they call it noona and have so many stories with older women x young men, even boys it's kinda creepy, but when it's an older man it's wrong. 

I am glad jdramas are more open minded. I also love how cdramas try to portray these relationships with older men despite getting hate from some people. 

 MarkJason:
Or like in Kdrama where it's OK if the older person is a woman, they call it noona and have so many stories with older women x young men, even boys it's kinda creepy, but when it's an older man it's wrong. 

I can't really speak about Kdrama as I don't really watch it but I don't think it's the production fault. It is more about the sentiment of drama watchers in general, and maybe the newer generation would prefer the older women X younger man trope, then it's understandable the Kdramas would try to fulfill that demand.

To be fair, some years ago there's also an opposite opinion about why public would be okay with older man dating younger woman and not okay for the other way around. I guess it must have been evolved from that era, that we now see more of the latter. And I think older Kdramas don't have problems portraying older man X younger woman pairing, at least in those that I have watched like in Jang Hyuk dramas for example lol.

 TimiZero:

I can't really speak about Kdrama as I don't really watch it but I don't think it's the production fault. It is more about the sentiment of drama watchers in general, and maybe the newer generation would prefer the older women X younger man trope, then it's understandable the Kdramas would try to fulfill that demand.

To be fair, some years ago there's also an opposite opinion about why public would be okay with older man dating younger woman and not okay for the other way around. I guess it must have been evolved from that era, that we now see more of the latter. And I think older Kdramas don't have problems portraying older man X younger woman pairing, at least in those that I have watched like in Jang Hyuk dramas for example lol.

Yes, you are right. It's weird how they get hate now when the man is older. There's something wrong with kdrama and to an extent cdrama watchers. 

That's why I prefer Jdramas over Kdramas nowadays, I was an avid watcher of kdramas until I started watching japanese dramas with a lot of mature content, make me feel that they are more in touch with humankind. I love the age gap dramas and eventhough sometimes they are portrayed a little bit harsher when the love interest is the woman being older, they endup doing a great job justifying the relationship and even most of the time giving the story a happy ending. I absolutely love "The Last Cinderella" for example. 

I am not too surewhat kind of age gap but I am not sure we should rejoyce about it.
Because you can find pedophile pornographic manga in every convenient store anyway ...
That's the country who love to promote lolicon and other creepy behaviour.
They don't see any problems having stories with 40 yo man and 13 yo kid.




 Blackdream:
They don't see any problems having stories with 40 yo man and 13 yo kid.

You should know how to differentiate porn with mainstream media. We are for sure talking about mainstream media in this forum and the age gap obviously isn't about pedophilia. Try to see the reactions of the (young) people on the dramas/movies with (non-pedophilia) age gap.

 TimiZero:

You should know how to differentiate porn with mainstream media. We are for sure talking about mainstream media in this forum and the age gap obviously isn't about pedophilia. Try to see the reactions of the (young) people on the dramas/movies with (non-pedophilia) age gap.

Exactly, I don't know what Blackdream was on about. It was obvious we are talking about adults. I am sure she has some kind of prejudice towards Japan or something. Weird.

Hi there,
Just stating that there is a cultural thing that allows age gap.
And sadly it's also used in a very wrong way.
It's not "having prejudice" that thinking that selling pedophilia manga in every convenient store is not a good thing. I do have a problem with that aspect of japanese culture.

That"s why I first started "I don't know what age gap" but ... yes. There is definitely a darker side to the "age gap" thing in japan and I am worried on how it might reach mainstream media.

It's better to be aware of both side of things. Nothing is all black but nothing is all shiny either.

It's interesting to have this discussion but it's interesting also to keep our eyes open.  It's a good opportunity since you want to discuss the subject.

I am sorry, my answer was probably sounding wuite strict but as I been living there for some times. I think it's important that there are also a not well hidden face for that "age gap" thing in Japan.  (not that it's in Japan only probably ... )

 Blackdream:

Hi there,
Just stating that there is a cultural thing that allows age gap.
And sadly it's also used in a very wrong way.
It's not "having prejudice" that thinking that selling pedophilia manga in every convenient store is not a good thing. I do have a problem with that aspect of japanese culture.

That"s why I first started "I don't know what age gap" but ... yes. There is definitely a darker side to the "age gap" thing in japan and I am worried on how it might reach mainstream media.

It's better to be aware of both side of things. Nothing is all black but nothing is all shiny either.

It's interesting to have this discussion but it's interesting also to keep our eyes open.  It's a good opportunity since you want to discuss the subject.

I am sorry, my answer was probably sounding wuite strict but as I been living there for some times. I think it's important that there are also a not well hidden face for that "age gap" thing in Japan.  (not that it's in Japan only probably ... )

You are putting this in the wrong thread. My thread wasn't about pedophilia or manga. My question was about kdrama vs jdrama fans views on age gaps between adults and how they react to if it's a man or woman who's older. You haven't addressed the question of the topic once and go off rails. 

YOU KNEW EXACTLY what kind of age gap I am talking about, and you are using my thread for your agenda, probably because you are triggered because Japanese fans are more open minded and don't have prejudice towards older men in dramas with much younger women like kdrama fans do. 

Get out of my thread with this nonsense. 

I am sorry if I hurt you.
Your title thread is a question and I was giving what I think is part of the answer.
As I said, not everything is black but not everything is also shiny.
All in all, some people might see things differently . But a forum is made to share opinions.  And a forum is a shared space and you're becoming agressive and a bit irrational XDD




 Blackdream:
Just stating that there is a cultural thing that allows age gap.

Hi, I think you are confused between age gap and pedophilia.

Simple example

  1. 50 yo man sexually attracted to 30 yo woman (or vice versa, or same gender whatever). This is perfectly normal across the world. But in this case the age gap is quite large (20 years), which some youngsters might find it disgusting (judging from their reactions).
  2. 18yo teen boy sexually attracted to 12yo girl (more specifically not yet physically developed young girl). This is PEDOPHILE and for obvious reason NOT NORMAL. Note that the age gap in this case is merely 6 years! 

In case you missed my point, in many culture (not only in Japan) the age gap is very well accepted and pretty normal thing in everyday life. However PEDOPHILIA is a totally different story. 


 Blackdream:
It's not "having prejudice" that thinking that selling pedophilia manga in every convenient store is not a good thing.

Talk is cheap. Can you bring source of info of your allegation? I know normal hentai manga magazines that come with idol gravure photos can be easily obtained, but the one with "pedophile fetish" might not included in those. Unless you consider JK (high school girl) and shota as pedophile fetish. There are however other channels like web and doujinshi (self publishing) that could produce the more weirder fetishes like pedophilia.

The LAW in Japan is different and that might consists of loopholes for such drawing. I think as non-Japanese not living in Japan, I don't have the right to comment about their LAW. But if you have watched stuff like Mosaic Japan or Naked Director, you will understand the tricky-ness of this matter.

The Live Action Porn however is different. While some of the weird fetishes persists, they are no more than a Role Play. So the Live Action realm is totally CLEAN if you ask me. Therefore it's very IMPOSSIBLE for the mainstream drama/movie to include those elements, and furthermore, the more stricter rule has been implemented for shooting child actors some time ago. (I know because some of their dramas cynically touched on the new rule).


 Blackdream:
Your title thread is a question and I was giving what I think is part of the answer.

LoL.

You simply don't read the title only. Please also read the FIRST POST, which further describing the context of the discussion.


 MarkJason:
It was obvious we are talking about adults

I think she just read the title. Well to be fair it was a bit confusing without the context.

Jdramas have more narrative freedom to deal with relationships with large age gaps, thanks to a slightly more tolerant culture on the subject, more varied genres, and a more open audience.

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