I need some BL that doesn't suck

 Lustdrama:

Mangas and anime are better in homosexuel stories coz asian culture still oppressed LGBTQ+

Even west movies about BL is law budget and kinda pre one night stand story that ends as if its never happened  except for Brokeback Mountain movie

Might I suggest watching some of the western movies I listed in my first reply,  on the first page? In none of them does the romance end up being shafted and ignored 'as if it never happened'. I'll agree finding good LGBTQ+ movies and dramas is hard, but Brokeback Mountain is not the only good one around. The entire point of this thread is to share the good series and movies we've found, so shooting down all movies beforehand defeats the purpose.

Manga and anime have issues of their own in LGBTQ+ representation. BL manga and anime suffers a lot from unhealthy relationships, non-consensual touching/kissing and even rape. Not to mention for a long time all couples had to be composed of one very manly guy (seme) and one who was very feminized (uke); nothing wrong by itself, but annoying and harmful when it was the only type of couple you saw around, although thankfully that's been changing some lately

Pyapi said:

"Not to mention for a long time all couples had to be composed of one very manly guy (seme) and one who was very feminized (uke); nothing wrong by itself, but annoying and harmful when it was the only type of couple you saw around, although thankfully that's been changing some lately"

I also have a problem with Seme-Uke relationships...what happened with balanced relationships when one is neither just solely on top or bottom? It's almost like a master / slave relationship of the yesteryears.

As for good LGBTQ+ Movies i cant think of a good story with a lesson but Brokeback Mountain ,other movies could ve been porn easily and minimize the production fees .for instance:Call me by ur Name /Weekend/ Carol/Room in Rome  and that french movie about 2 guys met in sex bar and one of them has HIV

I am not against sex in movies but maybe because im a woman i need to see a story before 2 people are in bed or at least drunken couple not  2 male who just wanna have sex and then romanticize the relationship ,besides in drama / movies or stories in general there is no unhealthy relationship coz u cant tell someone to talk about his /her experience or fantasies based on  some psychological studies or righteous people judgment . 

The other day we were discussing the homosexuel movies and we had this idea that ok the  media and cinema are depicting this sexuality but as if it have a hidden message that gays are only for sex and the future of such relationships is not bright .

Why we have to watch gays suffering because of their sexuality i wanna see normal people with normal life like heterosexual people 

No straight woman or man are walking  thinking of how they suffer because they are stright 

We are in 2018 we need to stop the gays movies that portrays the tragedy of being gay you know.

 Lustdrama:

NOPE , most BL drama are about kids in school curious about their sexuality . Not a story to be told just a movie would do

"As for good LGBTQ+ Movies i cant think of a good story with a lesson but Brokeback Mountain ,other movies could ve been porn easily and minimize the production fees .for instance:Call me by ur Name /Weekend/ Carol/Room in Rome  and that french movie about 2 guys met in sex bar and one of them has HIV"

So let me get this straight: You think most BL movies suck because there is no story besides one-night-stands or sexual relationships...and yet you don't like longer versions, ie. drama's because they have stories - but just not the kind of story you want to be told and "just a movie would do." So which is it? 

The journey of trying to find out one's sexual orientation is also a story - we can't just dismiss it as a non-story because it is not the type of story you want to watch....just because they are "kids in school" does not make their story "less" than any other. 

If you need a drama / movie to teach you a lesson, then maybe you are looking at the wrong place. Mostly dramas / movies are there for entertainment value. If there is a moral lesson, then it's just a bonus. A lot of these dramas / movies are also a platform where different voices can be heard and different perspectives can be portrayed.  They can also be reflecting what is going on with society, and people's attitudes towards the LGBTQ community. 

I get what you are saying that it's already 2018 and why are gay stories still being portrayed as tragedy. Yes, this is our hope, but you have to understand that there is still a stigma attached to being homosexual, maybe not as much depending on the city or country you reside in. But in Asia, this is pretty much the struggle of LGBT individuals.  Even in the Western world,  you have to "come out" of a closet, pretty much implying that in order to be part of the "normal" population, you have to "announce" that you are gay or other LGBTQ gender. It is not a given. Even in most progressive type of documentation, you will see boxes letting you choose:    Male / Female/ Other as if we're part of some anomaly. 

But I digress. If you want lessons attached to dramas then I would suggest the Club Friday Series. I have a few mentioned in my earlier post; the lessons are pretty much in your face: the radio hosts give their "soundly advice" and  are interspersed throughout the drama. Gay OK Bangkok series also are more mature and not just "some kids" trying to find out that they are gay or just confused.  But just so you know that Gay OK Bangkok series do showcase one night stands and that people, not just  gays, do  engage in casual sex. 

There's nothing wrong with analyzing...I for one have been accused also of over-analyzing movies / dramas instead of enjoying it....that's why I don't watch movies with Aliens and supernatural stuff hahahahaa...even for BL movies such as Customized Companion and Fanatic Love....I can't seem to watch them with a straight face as the logical part of me kept saying "Yeah right" throughout the movies (therefore I did not enjoy them)

Even without supernatural elements ....just the sheer coincidence  I find in Asian dramas, either BL or mainstream...coincidence as in  2 degrees of separation - like somehow almost everyone in the drama is related to one another at some point ......I find myself having to suspend logical reasoning in order to watch these movies / dramas. But that doesn't mean they are not good.  I find Revive to be good as a drama, not necessarily BL for many who need to see lip action to count it as BL.  

Back to the topic: Asian BL dramas/movies that don't suck: I'd say Long Time No See....it' may not be the art house movie that you want to see but it's not a tragedy for once (if you count that the BL couple did not die or get separated - even though others did).

The same small production company also did Open and Secret Spectacles. Here is the production company's facebook page.   

Yeah i feel u , I dont watch aliens too lol but im trash to supernatural cutey aspect or lets say magic  that do goodnees  :)

Im not biased to GL it.wasnt the main issue there the after math  or the plot twist of their love is what makes the movie great

Thx for your time and I ll  give a try to ur recommendations .

 Lustdrama:

Yeah i feel u , I dont watch aliens too lol but im trash to supernatural cutey aspect or lets say magic  that do goodnees  :)

Im not biased to GL it.wasnt the main issue there the after math  or the plot twist of their love is what makes the movie great

Thx for your time and I ll  give a try to ur recommendations .

If you enjoyed Like Love, maybe you'll find Ossan's Love (The series) funny as well.  I was gonna pass on this because I'm not too keen on the actors (maybe I'm biased towards Flower Boys) - but I found a lot of good reviews about it so I gave it a shot - and the drama is just a riot.  The movie version was okay for me but the Drama is better.