I watch several Bls a week, Hollywood movies with gays,soap opera w gays etc., but I thought the actor who played…
I'm a gay person, not just a character. I have gay friends, not fictional characters. So, saying gay characters, in extension, gay individuals should have charisma, is problematic to me.
I can't see the compliment you are trying to give with that stereotype.
So I want to know what the charisma you are referring to might be
I watch several Bls a week, Hollywood movies with gays,soap opera w gays etc., but I thought the actor who played…
I'm not saying he might not be acting without charisma. I'm commenting on your statement that gay characters have charisma.
I'm just trying to understand what you see as charisma in a gay portrayal, because your comment seems rather stereotypical, rather than saying the actor isn't charismatic, you specified his gay portrayal lacks charisma. That's what made me comment in the first place
I watch several Bls a week, Hollywood movies with gays,soap opera w gays etc., but I thought the actor who played…
You said that gay characters inherently have charisma across the media you consume, so I just asked what your definition of charisma is, since you pointed out he played his gay character with little charisma.
So, what do you define as charisma, since you see it as a gay trait?
I think people in the comments attacking dohan are either homophobic, ignoring the fact that dohan is gay in an…
I've seen more about dohan. On Reddit, twitter, Instagram. I've seen more negativity towards dohan, than every other characters in this show, which prompted me to come here to comment my opinion. On the kdrama sub on Reddit, any positive comment about dohan is being downvoted to hell and back.
I just noticed an odd and obvious pattern and decided to speak on it.
I think people in the comments attacking dohan are either homophobic, ignoring the fact that dohan is gay in an…
I didn't call everybody homophobic. I gave three scenarios of people's mindset, one of them being homophobia.
In the entirety of the show Jihan, the grandad, and Ahjung think selfishly about themselves too, but people don't give them the same energy they give to dohan for some reason.
ppl saying "well she AGREED to the marriage" to defend do han and hate on ah jeong is so annoying cuz yeah she…
Who was the final reason that she accepted this offer, at the end of the day? It was Jihan, not dohan. She accepted this role just to spite Jihan, because he was being childish and following her around, and PRESSURING her.
She doesn't owe dohan three years of her life, but you're commenting like he put a gun to her head and forced her to sign the contract.
yall in these comments being like does he expect to lie his entire life... yes he does. that's literally what…
I think people in the comments attacking dohan are either homophobic, ignoring the fact that dohan is gay in an extremely homophobic country, or just have tunnel vision to the two main leads and the romance they're supposed to have in the show.
Dohan's character is the biggest waste of a gay character in Kdrama that I have seen. The only people I've seen defending dohan on twitter are queer people, and that says a lot to me, about the demographic of the people that watch this show.
Them using the words 'cowardly' to describe dohan annoys me, because being queer isn't the happily ever after that they see in bls or what hetero Kdrama couples get to have. Gay people have to be cowardly in situations for our survival. Dohan is a closeted chaebol whose brother and grandad want to force an unwanted existence on him. He escaped the toxicity of his family, which is a common gay experience.
If your brother is manipulating you into marrying a girl you will never like, and you grandad is putting you and in addition, your sexuality in the spotlight for the public to pick apart and criticize by forcing you to inherit his company, any gay person living in a homophobic would run away.
Gay people don't owe anybody being brave and coming out, when it could potentially bring harm their way. Didn't they see how he was being discriminated in high school. Does anyone know his lived experiences?
The way they comment sometimes makes me feel like they hate dohan for being gay, not that he's a 'coward', because his society has forced him, a gay person to hide in cowardice. He just asked his friend to help him, he didn't force or manipulate her to help him for three years. He is paying her 2m dollars. That guy is desperate. He's relatable, and watching this show, seeing a character be hated for a decision I'd have most likely taken in his situation, as a fellow gay person, hurts.
I though do han's character will get better but nah this mf is still selfish. This fucker emotionally blackmailing…
How is he emotionally blackmailing her? You people are infantalizing Ahjung a bit too much. He never forced her to take take on the long term role as his wife for three years, with payment. The person who caused her to eventually accept the offer was Jihan because he was perstering her with his childishness.
You saying he blackmailed her from the start means used something against her to force her to take the accept. He wasn't even following up on her like that about accepting it. He gave her space to think about it. Jihan made her accept it, just to annoy him.
Are we watching the same show? I'm confused about the comments in this comment section.
I'm just watching to see Dohan have a hopefully happy ending. The other two leads are extremely selfish. Dohan never forced her to accept that contract.
The writers are trying to paint a forbidden lovers plotline for Jihan and Ahjung, but I'm not feeling it. Her signing the contract means that she was choosing to be paid to help protect her friend of more than a decade's secret for a short while. She obviously shouldn't prioritize his feelings over hers, but it doesn't justify doing all of that, and breaching the contract, he believed she agreed with with his own brother (which makes it really easy for his secret to be exposed), when she, from his perspective, willingly accepted.
Dohan isn't the selfish person Jihan tries to paint him to be. I can't wait for this mess to end next week
I agree but I feel as though Ae Jeong is leading Ji Han on in some way, with being overly concerned about him.…
I mean he forces himself in her spaces, without him asking. She can't be leading someone on, when the person already follows her around obsessively.
People see jihan's attitude towards ahjung as romantic and caring, but I just generally see him as someone who can't mind his business. I just can't feel the romance I'm expected to see from their dynamic.
It's not a bl novel. The main character has multiple partners across the time period of his life the book covers. It's very realistic. Not lovey dovey.
It reminds me of the vibe late 90s/early 2000s Asian queer movies had. I felt a very similar aura of the queer movie 'So long, See you tomorrow'.
It's emotional and beautiful, and romance isn't the focus.
I didn't feel that Love for Love's Sake was "pedophilic" or "borderline pedophilic" A "pedophile" is sexually…
He was 16/17, in international age, and 18/19 in korean age, because he was in a class below the other main character.
Since you're bringing up the Korean age system, The age of no more being a minor in Korea is 20 years old in Korean age, which has now recently been legally changed to the generally used international age, legally. Which means it is 18 now.
The age someone will be considered an adult is 18 years old. Cha seowon is 16/17 years old. He is still classified as a minor under the law.
I didn't feel that Love for Love's Sake was "pedophilic" or "borderline pedophilic" A "pedophile" is sexually…
Wait I just remembered seowoon called him seonbae and was a class below him, which makes him a year younger than the age I thought he was, so the age gap is 11 years now
I can't see the compliment you are trying to give with that stereotype.
So I want to know what the charisma you are referring to might be
I'm just trying to understand what you see as charisma in a gay portrayal, because your comment seems rather stereotypical, rather than saying the actor isn't charismatic, you specified his gay portrayal lacks charisma. That's what made me comment in the first place
So, what do you define as charisma, since you see it as a gay trait?
I just noticed an odd and obvious pattern and decided to speak on it.
In the entirety of the show Jihan, the grandad, and Ahjung think selfishly about themselves too, but people don't give them the same energy they give to dohan for some reason.
She doesn't owe dohan three years of her life, but you're commenting like he put a gun to her head and forced her to sign the contract.
Dohan's character is the biggest waste of a gay character in Kdrama that I have seen. The only people I've seen defending dohan on twitter are queer people, and that says a lot to me, about the demographic of the people that watch this show.
Them using the words 'cowardly' to describe dohan annoys me, because being queer isn't the happily ever after that they see in bls or what hetero Kdrama couples get to have. Gay people have to be cowardly in situations for our survival. Dohan is a closeted chaebol whose brother and grandad want to force an unwanted existence on him. He escaped the toxicity of his family, which is a common gay experience.
If your brother is manipulating you into marrying a girl you will never like, and you grandad is putting you and in addition, your sexuality in the spotlight for the public to pick apart and criticize by forcing you to inherit his company, any gay person living in a homophobic would run away.
Gay people don't owe anybody being brave and coming out, when it could potentially bring harm their way. Didn't they see how he was being discriminated in high school. Does anyone know his lived experiences?
The way they comment sometimes makes me feel like they hate dohan for being gay, not that he's a 'coward', because his society has forced him, a gay person to hide in cowardice. He just asked his friend to help him, he didn't force or manipulate her to help him for three years. He is paying her 2m dollars. That guy is desperate. He's relatable, and watching this show, seeing a character be hated for a decision I'd have most likely taken in his situation, as a fellow gay person, hurts.
You saying he blackmailed her from the start means used something against her to force her to take the accept. He wasn't even following up on her like that about accepting it. He gave her space to think about it. Jihan made her accept it, just to annoy him.
Are we watching the same show? I'm confused about the comments in this comment section.
The writers are trying to paint a forbidden lovers plotline for Jihan and Ahjung, but I'm not feeling it. Her signing the contract means that she was choosing to be paid to help protect her friend of more than a decade's secret for a short while. She obviously shouldn't prioritize his feelings over hers, but it doesn't justify doing all of that, and breaching the contract, he believed she agreed with with his own brother (which makes it really easy for his secret to be exposed), when she, from his perspective, willingly accepted.
Dohan isn't the selfish person Jihan tries to paint him to be. I can't wait for this mess to end next week
I means he's acting really well in wedding impossible too, but the character is just too unlikable
People see jihan's attitude towards ahjung as romantic and caring, but I just generally see him as someone who can't mind his business. I just can't feel the romance I'm expected to see from their dynamic.
It reminds me of the vibe late 90s/early 2000s Asian queer movies had. I felt a very similar aura of the queer movie 'So long, See you tomorrow'.
It's emotional and beautiful, and romance isn't the focus.
Korean high schooler seniors graduate highschool at 18(international age).
Either in the new international or Korean age, Cha seowon would still be considered a minor.
Since you're bringing up the Korean age system, The age of no more being a minor in Korea is 20 years old in Korean age, which has now recently been legally changed to the generally used international age, legally. Which means it is 18 now.
The age someone will be considered an adult is 18 years old. Cha seowon is 16/17 years old. He is still classified as a minor under the law.