TamzinMillemni

Most likely talking about the special episode, although I wouldn’t mind a season 2 of this series or even a long form serial. There’s definitely enough material there.

From my understanding, the ending that was aired on Thai tv was ending #1 and the ending that was aired during the paid livestream today was ending #2. We’ll either get both endings on 24th or just ending #2. I think they are aware most people want ending #2 and that’s why that one was the one you had to pay to watch.

I’ve not seen it yet but that might be why there are two endings.

Not gonna lie, as frustrating and unexpected as it was to hear about the two weeks wait; I gotta admit it was a stroke of marketing genius and I can’t hate on a bl studio for securing the bag when they have a show this popular and in demand. I wonder how many people bought tickets to watch the live streaming and I do not blame anyone who did at all. More power to you.

First of all, I thought you were saying R-rated. 😅😂😂😂
Second of all, that is a really good question. I’ve often wondered why Neo doesn’t have a consistent partner. Not that I’m complaining. I think this works out for him as he can be more versatile but I wonder if there’s an official reason too.

I’ve seen this ad more often than I’ve seen my own kids. lol 😂

Agree, although I have a bias against cheating, and can understand why some viewers are upset, my personal dislike comes from cheating storylines being portrayed as something that the victim has to accept as inevitable and get over without being a nuisance to the cheaters. I find that I can enjoy any drama with any theme as long as it’s explored with some nuance and understanding of how these actions affect others. I personally think this drama has that nuance and I am one of the people who enjoyed it. I could see it from all the main characters’ POV. After all FL started out as a cheater herself which is why she doesn’t treat things as black and white even though the betrayal hurt her. All three of the adults did wrong (some more intentionally than others) and both women felt they had been wronged. This I can understand. Imagine if the SFL was the main lead, I’m sure we could sympathise with her actions/arc as she essentially had her man stolen. And even though the ML is deplorable, imagine how we’d feel if our whole lives were upended because of one stupid mistake which means not getting to be with the person we love. People talk about characters with shades of grey flippantly all the time but I do think these characters were actually an example of characters with shades of grey and more importantly, these nuances were portrayed quite well imo.

I forgot how good episodes 1-5 were. I’m watching again for the second time and I’m crying and laughing all at once.

Absolutely agree with your assessment of Ji-Won. That’s what I take from it as well. Ji-Won just wants a clean break and doesn’t want to get wrapped up with someone like Su-Min again who will make her life a living hell and thinks Yu-Ra will be the same as Su-Min if she gets involved with Ji-Hyuk.

I don’t think these things necessarily will make it a mess going forward. It’s all about the ‘HOW’ they will be done. There are dramas that incorporate these and execute them quite well, so there is still hope that MMH can do a good job of future episodes. It’s all done to how well these things are executed.

I’ve gotten to know this ad so much, it now feels like part of my family and eligible to receive my inheritance. 😂😂

The drama is following the web novel (which it is based off of), so only some of the scenes in the drama are the same or similar to those in the webtoon.

“beige” 🤣😂😂

Thanks for sharing. 🙂

I think there’s a petition for them as a thrupple. 😅

I don’t think this is an open ending. From what I understood, they resolved their feelings/realised they liked each other that night. It’s insinuated that they’ve been together ever since and that Dong-Ho is the one coming to pick up his boyfriend, Hyun from the bookstore who has essentially been going down memory lane looking through the old notebook. Each part of the story is revealed bit by bit to the viewer but it does have a conclusion and the conclusion is that they are together and have been together since that night. The “You’re here” comes across as a couple greeting each other. Hyun is not surprised to see the person and you don’t get the impression that it’s been a while since he’s seen that person since his smile feels warm and intimate. It sounds like someone picking their significant other up to take them home. Like, “Oh, honey you’re here. You’re late. Ready to go.”

Although not explicitly stated, they alluded to it being because Jin-Man set up his own operation of selling weapons etc, smuggled out a witness (basically going against their operation protocol) and finally the most cardinal of sins; leaving the agency. This is what I think Babylon sees as a betrayal. If Jin-Man is not one of them, then he is the enemy. As for Bale and his cronies, their beef with Jin-Man is different. They’re mad he tried to kill Bale which is very hypocritical considering those losers were the first to kill their own but it just goes to show how megalomaniacs always have one rule for themselves and another rule for everyone else.

Notably Babylon left Jin-Man alone for years, as per the deal with the old man. Bale and his team were acting on their own when they went after Jin-Man after all these years. The reason why Babylon got involved now is because they presumed Jin-Man was dead and there was a shop up for grabs. Hence the bounty on the heads of Munhye, Pasin and Jian as they were the only things standing between Babylon gaining control of the shop.

I see what you did there. 😂😂

The version without the ex-fiancé is the web novel. It’s the original. @YouToon is saying it’s on Yonder.

For your first point, even from the first episode Su-Min’s character was shown with a lot more depth. They first showed her as a ‘doting’ friend and then the switch to showing her betrayal which was so quietly menacing. The actress who plays Su-Min in the first episode alone, portrayed different shades of the same character. So did Min-Hwan in fact, in the moments that he goes from pretending to be nice to showing his anger. From the beginning these characters were never two dimensional. They’ve always been nuanced. You hear people saying all the time that they dislike the characters but they are almost always praising the portrayals.

As for your second point, no, I don’t have an issue with the FL handling the ML because I understand the reasoning behind it even though I think they could have done a little better with illustrating that to the audience but overall I think they did an ok enough job with it.

The other issues are that this last episode and to a lesser extent the previous episode; come across as a bit messy with how they tie all parts of the narrative together and how they go about telling each part of the story for these two episodes compared to the previous episodes. I don’t think it’s an editing problem. The narrative comes across less cohesively in these last two episodes. It makes the quality of writing seem less on par with the previous episodes. The execution might be part of the reason.

True it’s unfinished but I’m spotting the problem that a lot of kdramas have been having in the last two years and that is that they fall apart towards the end. It looks like this show is heading in that direction but I really really hope it is able to pull that quality storytelling back because I think this show has been good overall and has huge potential to be a great kdrama.