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-I was not conflating. I was pointing out the hypocrisy.
- What is happening in Palestine is a genocide. To me its worse that what happened in Germany WW2 because lessons should have been learnt, and because our western govts are complicit in this genocide. (while we have memorials and remembrance days about the holocaust).

-If you read my comments you will see that I have stated that other Asian countries also have an issue on colourism. I have restricted it to the East Asian countries that that I have watched tv dramas, and watched actors get lighter as the years progress
-Colourism also happens in western countries but I am not going to single out every continent./country. There is too many.
-Its probably worse in India and caste system but I dont watch their dramas

-I am glad that the Thais are boycotting. That is significant. However some international viewers boycotting will not make much of a dent unless there are enough of us, and its communicated to the companies.
- Im clueless how to go about this but at least by posting about the issues and making people aware is a start.

I agree that whatever was written on the pink note gave the pupil hope.
Its funny how we project and want to involve feelings and get a happy ending - despite it being a transactional arrangement .

To me - the nc scenes felt very clinical - like watching a video on performing physical therapy exercises. I did not find it erotic. It felt that they were going through the motions - while working through the dictionary of sexual positions.
I gave it a 7.5 because I appreciate that they are doing something different from the typical fluff. ButI dont find it as cerebral (as stated by another reviewer AnonymousMiscellaneous)

There is a lot of positions.

ahh thank you for the reassurance - i have the utmost respect for the opinion of a fellow epistemophile

I too felt that the lesson plan was incomplete.

Also with the threesome there are so many combinations and they may require separate lessons - vers, tops, bottoms, bi. And what happens if there is a girlfriend - or is that too perverted?
Anyway Im diligent and patient and willing to sit through all the lessons.

I think women should also get lessons - its so unfair that its only the boyfriends responsibility to improve his skills.

And there wasn't any irritating music

About the term queer: Most gay men don't identify with the term queer (as its being used as an umbrella term) because they view themselves as male(no confusion about gender identity), and their preference is men.
That is my understanding of why they mainly dont like /identify with the term.
They are not interested in transmen or transwoman
This also seems to be the majority view on reddit - gay subreddits

I watched the episodes in about 5 minutes - skipping through most and stopping to watch the supporting couples.

Im glad you are more informed - my intention wasn't to put people off watching the series but to make them aware of the controversy and issues involved. Even just out of interest sake.

The hypocrisy of this particular industry does annoy me more because they are supporting and fighting for certain minority rights (LGBTQ) rights but are perpetuating discrimination against ethnic Thais (who are largely darker toned ). Its like a Jewish person screaming antisemitism but supporting the genocide of Palestinians.

This Thai series has taken something of value to the Thai fans and gone against those principles. But its not just Thai industry - look at Korea and Chinese dramas. Those actors there are more white than the actors in western media.

True the Japanese do miscommunications exceptionally well - but they do tend to kiss or have nc scenes. ("My Personal Weatherman had kissing, cant remember details of the other one).

I dont expect to see Koreans produce Dangerous Drugs of Sex or the Pornographer . The korean bl dramas are the most conservative.

I strongly suspect that the Koreans use miscommunication and misunderstandings as a major plot device / trope to actually avoid having to let the actors kiss (I mean lips touching).

That is why this one surprised me.

In glad I found it accidently - - came across this accidently via Reddit Spice Index Bl workbook.

for me this is the perfect balance.

I rated this a 9.5 because it was so educational. It could have got a higher score but i felt that the lesson plan was incomplete. There is so much more that needs to be covered.

Anyway this has so much more potential to be developed into a whole series - I mean not just about the nc scenes but the story and motivations of the characters. I would watch it even if there were no more nc scenes.

Im tired of fluff - i want to see complicated and toxic characters, good plots, and nc scenes without music in the background. There should be more grown up (not porn)bl genre.

I loved this and as a fangirl I wish there was more stuff like this ie "pure and raw without fluff."
Also this has potential to be expanded into proper series. I can only wish.

Koreans bls have perfected bl series centred around miscommunications - cleared in last few minutes so they can dodge having to kiss.
This is a pleasant surprise

lol Fancy finding you here - I know you had great taste

My understanding is that the BL webtoon also deals with some heavy topics that made it popular and are then simply discarded.
Im not sure if Change decided not to tackle the topics out of self preservation or they decided that the topics would not appeal to bl series fans.

Im enjoying the tv series as is, but I dont understand why they buy the rights and then not be faithful to the source. Its a waste. Cant they buy the rights to adapt the story, or simply create a new story.

Its kind of ridiculous when you think about it - the Thais are finding markers (skin tones) to discriminate against their ethnicity.

Im surprised there are many who disliked that show. As much as I liked the couple, i could not enjoy that series. Trying to be fair, it may be because its genre was action. I like emotional, toxic, messy, psychological dramas OR dramas if they tell a good story eg My Stand in or have a good script.
I skipped about 30% of JackJoker. It was boring and concept was ridiculous to me. If they focused more on psychological or thriller aspects between characters it would have been good (for me)

its f^ckd up how people dont care about an issue if it doesn't affect them directly.
Bls preach LGBT rights and equality, but practice "skin tone" discrimination. And they perpetuates this type of discrimination.
I think its getting worse in Asian. When I watch older programs, it amazes me how much darker people were only a few years ago.