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Instead being opinionated abut wondering what its like, why dont you just watch it and then you can actually have an INFORMED OPINION about the show and director.

I appreciate that not everyone likes or will BounPrem or this series or the director - and that is fine as well. Its being ridiculous to sit there wondering what its like when you can actually watch it on youtube.

I dont think there is much we disagree on.

But its interesting how we interpret in different ways as well:
" except Khem wanted to ignore the DV. Due to this, it almost portrays the crime of the DV to seem lesser than it is,"
whereby I interpret this as people not wanting to get involved tells me there is a problem with their character and morals rather then saying anything about DV.

I also agree with you that they are using it to paint Khem of a higher moral ground which is unnecessary/pointless and why even use DV. And why do they have to make him perfect anyway?

I also 100% hated the husbands actions and villagers/peems attitude towards this issue - cowedly (and its essentially what society does - not interfere as its too inconvenient.).

My issue is more that people want to interfere and impose how a story or theme is tacked by the writer. I may not like the character BUT there is crossing a line by having an expectation of how a writer should portray a characters (perfect green flags), the behaviours allowed, and how a theme is dealt with.

I want the writer to tell the story even if I disapprove, irrespective if it mirrors or doesn't mirror reality. Its the writers fictional story.
And I don't mind people analysing and criticising either, but I feel people are dictating and censoring.
Im not sure if that makes sense.

Apologies for my comment - and being insensitive to your experience and making assumptions. You are absolutely correct in that you have every right to an opinion and to express it. I have always defended that.
I also dont particularly care if you dislike the show for what ever reason. And you have every right to want or prefer it to be written differently and to play out differently. I am sorry as I possibly misunderstood you.

My issue is more about how everyone wants stories to be "whitewashed." Im becoming overly sensitive as everybody wants to dictate and censor writers - about how to write fictional stories with no toxic behaviours, perfect characters, exemplary behaviour and justice for all in the end.

Its a fictional story and if I wrote it - the village would ignore the abuse, the police tell the wife to behave, the wife would be murdered by husband. The village all come together and feel bad they didn't do anything. And then in the very near future another incident takes place and the village ignores it again.

Note: i have not experienced violence (but well educated in hypocrisy )

People nowadays seem to want green flag politically correct characters who can do no fault. To me that would make it the most boring show.

The characters are just flawed and dealing with issues as most of us are in real life anyway. Thats why i dont get the hate.

In real life most abusers get away with it and also do considerable damage to their victims. A lot gaslight victims and those around them.
I dont think they tackled it badly. The reality is much worse.

In real life most abusers get away with it and do considerable damage to their victims. A lot gaslight victims and those around them.

So why do you get upset how they treat it in fiction? At least he didnt kill her. I dont get why people want to write woke scripts and have proper Justise and punishment and closure in fiction. Its a story and I want to hear it from the author - not how you feel it should play out. The author is not writing a WOKE script to satisfy only you.

If people have a problem with domestic violence then act out against it in reality - contribute to shelters, speak to politicians, rather then get upset about a story.

I also sceptical about this show. I wanted something dark.

But the people involved in the directing, cinematography, producing have a good track record. So i wont judge just yet.

You are a hypocrite.
You have no problem supporting a rapist like Lee Jin-wook in real life but you have an issue with fictional characters.
I cant even watch Squid games or Sweat Home because i dont want to support a rapist

So you have a problem with rape in fiction but not with rape in real life.

You should do some mesarch into China and censorship instead of asking me to educate you.

In the UK, less than 1% of rapists are convicted. He admitted to having sex without consent.
Acquittal does not mean he did not rape.
What kind of person defends a rapist?

I dont understand why people want to impose moral judgements on fictional characters and fictional environments.

Some even think "being gay" is a moral issue and have a problem with it.

I dont understand why people want to impose moral judgements on fictional characters and fictional environments. I dont approve of murder either but if its in a film or drama I have to publicly declare that Im against murder.

Regards normalising prostitution. This show was about a host bar and did not really dwell on the issue.
There will always be prostitution - so the question is how do we protect workers, and society. There is a lot of exploitation and abuse in the industry - sex trafficking, pimps, forced drugging, etc That is what we should criminalise.

lol - I was pleasantly surprised at this show. I found it cute. The nc scenes were good and I was not expecting a thruple.

It seems some people have a problem with this fictional show and morals. When I see a murder or violence or a mafia scene in a drama - I dont have to announce that I am morally against it. And petition to have that part removed. So what it its set in this environment.

This show was featured a host bar and did not really dwell on the issue of prostitution. There will always be prostitution - so the question is how do we protect workers, and society. There is a lot of exploitation and abuse in the industry - sex trafficking, pimps, forced drugging, etc That is what we should criminalise.

Censorship has everything to do with it.
A lot of us have a problem with censorship - look at the decisions made by the Chinese govt to ban bl shows because like you they thought they had moral superiority. We have shows like Addicted cancelled amongst others because of your type. Some have said that they had the right to dictate. F&ck your kind.

I am convinced that only those with no moral compass care about what fictional characters do.
That is people like youself.

I dont see a how a fictional show can ever normalise rape n or change my view of the reality - but obviously you dont understand right and wrong and need to preach and inform everyone that its bad. Are your morals triggered?

Clutch your pearls at what fictional characters do and ignore reality - and you are too thick to understand the bigger picture about censorship.

I get what you are saying.

Rape is a big deal, but society's attitude in real life is worse than what is portrayed in bls. Im more concerned about society not punishing rapists in real life rather than judging fictional characters.
A rapist is the president of the USA. And in the UK where I live, less than 1% of reported rapes have a conviction.

Censorship because this is an issue affecting us currently in the UK as they just implemented the Online Safety Act and people have to provide IDs to verify who you are before they can access certain NSFW sites - so even some pages on reddit are blocked - not just porn sites. We are now being tracked. The end goal will be to limit more freedoms and control content we watch. Its easy to say its just porn, but the content can be news and information that affect our votes and our lives.
End of rant.

Maybe its lazy writing, but in real life there is no punishment and they get away with it.

A rapist is the president of the most powerful country in the world. And in the UK where I live, less than 1% of reported rapes have a conviction. They say 40% or rapes are unreported, and if children are involved than its 70% unreported. Male rape statistics would be worse i would imagine.

Im more concerned about society not punishing rapists in real life rather then how a fictional character is portrayed.

I live in the UK and Im angry about controls and censorship. They recently implemented an Online Safety Act (OSA) which means that people have to provide IDs to verify who you are before they can access certain NSFW sites - so even some pages on reddit are blocked. Its easy to say that I dont watch porn so it does not affect me and porn is harmful anyway (I think it is). But the issue is that laws like that limits freedom, and will be used to control us, the media content, news content we get.

Those are my issues about who gets the right to say what we should watch.

See you then probably at another series discussion board.

Thank you for that detailed response.

lol they do spend but sometimes you need to build up goodwill but Im sure they are doing something right as they are producing series. Pity its not a listed company so I cant access financials. If I was advising Aof I would get him to make sure that all the actor couples under the label to actively support each other to avoid these fan warfare.

I will still defend DMD just because you need to have other successful players in the industry apart from GMM.
Even if GMM turned out good products there needs to be competition otherwise we get much of the same and boredom.

I hope Mr Fanboy does well. Im actually looking forward to that one from them.

I have yet to catch up and watch episode but doesn't rape happen in real life?

Should we pretend rape does not happen, ignore it and write it out of our reality. And do that in fiction as well.

Lets start by banning all types of violence . How about no war movies, action films, and we should change all the scripts so there is no shooting and punching people.
We should also not have dramas about betrayals and cheating.
We should most certainly not have dramas like KinnPorsche in this day and age. How disgusting right? Lets set moral standards in fiction and tell authors how to write and topics allowed to be covered.

I agree. Less is more.
I am also over what I call the misogyny trope - used to make bl viewers hate the girl characters.

You stated "Because it was very clear what happened in the past"
I didnt understand what happened between Kang Min and Lee Su Ho - maybe i missed it was it not translated