When he gave his little brother the token, i was like he might have a plan in the future as he might have sense…
I mean it’s a nice change having characters who aren’t infallible or omnipotent, but they made the ML a little dumb right there lol. As soon as he left Sen alone with them I knew that it was going to go poorly for him.
Thank you for putting this feeling into words. This is what I felt as well when I finished ep 6. Essentially,…
I totally understand that she wants a better life for him, she doesn’t think that him continuing a life of smuggling and criminal activity will ultimately not go well for him and she’s right! Buuuuttt how she’s going about it? Nope. I hope that the purpose of this is to highlight her flaws so it can lead to good character growth in the future… but I’ve suffered through / dropped so many Girl Power dramas with ML simps in the last 8 months that I am not holding my breath.
I feel the same way you do. ML is weak (and according to spoilers, it won't get any better)
Yeah. I was all about this drama 💯until episodes 5/6 and now it’s given me pause and I’m not sure anymore. This one now looks like it could end up disappointing just like POJ or LBTG where the ML’s are just not allowed to share the spotlight with the FLs.
Finished 6. Some stuff I like, some stuff I am on the fence about / didn’t like. I like the trust that the leads have in each other, despite their mistrust for each other at the same time 😂? Happy we got more fight scenes, and I kept thinking how much better with Zhao Ling be with some proper tutelage to refine his fight skills. It was also VERY satisfying watching Tingyun actually use Lady Yu as her stepping stone to the crown prince (and Lady Yu’s face when she realized it was priceless 👏🏻).
And yet… I’m getting Simpy vibes from the ML that I’m like “hmm” about. I am not sure how I feel about the ML consistently being outsmarted and one-upped by the FL (literally every time since the start of the show). The power differential kinda rubbed me the wrong way?? I’m already sensitive to dramas that push the Girl Boss agenda at the expense of equal ML development. Perhaps I found some of it a little frustrating and unbelievable - like we have a pampered, spoiled noble lady who grew up with a silver spoon in her hand out on the streets without any resources or connections who is outsmarting the ML who literally grew up and survived on the streets. I was really hoping that after her first impulsive mishap that she would begin to respect the ML’s perspectives and his strengths. I was hoping that the ML would have been given some opportunities to showcase his skills. But it didn’t seem that way. The woman she helped against ZL’s warning, a situation that almost got them all seriously hurt, showed up later to be her maid (and helped her escape Sen and Zhao Ling). Serious plot armor, right there. Then she essentially robs Zhao Ling’s livelihood and manages to find the crown prince, makes wild decisions on ZL’s behalf without considering him, and basically everything ends up going perfectly well for her and there was not really any fallout or consequences.
Was there no character growth? No hard lesson learned that maybe Zhao Ling might know a thing or two about what he’s doing and maybe she should heed his advice? Doesn’t ZL have anything to offer this relationship outside of being a man that she can use to climb to power? I have no problem with her being determined and smart, but the ML is also smart and cunning as well… but she has always been a step ahead of him. And now she’s kind of making decisions for him and using him at the same time, and… well, Zhao Ling is not really pushing back a whole lot. THAT is my biggest issue. Her spoiledness and naïveté I could be OK with… if the ML had more of a backbone and stood up to her more firmly. It was kind of giving me the vibes that this is going to be a drama where this perfect, privileged rich girl is going to “fix” her problematic man’s life and he’s just going to go along with it instead of pushing back or maintaining his own identity. I’ll probably rewatch the episodes with my partner, so maybe I’ll see more the second time watching that may change my perspective. But episodes 5-6 were kind of a letdown.
I'm up to ep 6. The main FL is pissing me off. Are we supposed to be sympathetic to her plight? Raised with a…
I kind of had the same feelings about episode 5 and episode 6 didn’t help. The ML did begin to give off Simp vibes that I wasn’t thrilled about. She’s kinda been walking all over him, making decisions for him and pushing him into situations that he doesn’t want to be in. The imbalance of power in the relationship isn’t sitting right with me now. I need some time to process and think about it.
I knooowww I am 99% sure that I’ve seen him in another drama, it’s been bothering me all day and I wish he had a MDL page so I can figure out what else I saw him in 😩
Edit Nevermind I figured it out lol. Road Home and Moonlit Reunion. Thank god I’ve been wracking my brain all day.
Yes, but if a drama is promoted as a romance and advertised as a romance then it’s valid when people have opinions…
It’s a great show! The director did my all time favorite Cdrama, The Prisoner of Beauty, as well as another top one The Legend of Shen Li. I have faith that he can make a good story!
One of the (many) things I appreciate about this drama is that it seems like the ML actually desires to get married and have a family? When Shen suggested he go through with the marriage proposal, his response wasn’t about how he doesn’t have time or isn’t interested in marriage… but rather how he doesn’t want to marry into a family with a lot of scheming whose priority is to climb the social ladder. He said, almost sadly, that it would feel transactional. Regardless, though, I got the impression from that conversation that he kinda wants to find love and have a family, which I think is really sweet.
for the chastity gates here's a good explanation :)https://www.reddit.com/r/CDrama/comments/1vk1cpv/comment/p2qkzws/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Hahahaha the smiley face at the end of your sentence 😂
“Oh here’s an explanation of how women were celebrated with stone arches by the government for killing themselves in order to follow their husbands into death or for remaining chaste widows forever and then how women became severely oppressed and oftentimes starved to death, kept in isolation or outright murdered in order for the family to get more arches built for them isn’t that interesting :)”
Can you guys start talking about this drama and stop nitpicking one person's comment 😩 ? There are good dramas…
Yes, but if a drama is promoted as a romance and advertised as a romance then it’s valid when people have opinions about half of the main couple being absent for most of the drama.
Personally, I prioritize romance dramas and struggle to maintain interest if the romance isn’t there or if half of the couple is absent too much. The Double was highly rated a very well-written drama, but I got bored with the ML’s lack of screen time. Same with the Rebel Princess and Pursuit of Jade. As a hetero, romance loving female I like my lovely Asian men to have a presence in the romances that I watch and there isn’t anything wrong with that, or with anyone else who is similar as me.
People watch and engage with dramas according to their personal tastes and preferences 🤷🏼♀️ Oh and FYI, I am loving this drama so far and trust this director’s work as he directed a couple of my faves. Yeah I felt that the ML was missing a lot from the first few episodes, but it’s still early and the stage of the plot is being set.
I wonder how he will become official since I can't imagine how that will come to be. Don't think it will be smooth…
Yeah I am not sure what all is going on with the ML. WeTV didn’t translate what the token was, so I just assumed it was an imperial token, whether it’s his or he got it from someone else idk.
(just kidding it’s the trolls)
The Story of Ming Lan (!!!)
Legend of the Female General
The Double
Blossoms of Power
Ashes to Crown
Blossom
PS I haven’t seen them all.
And yet… I’m getting Simpy vibes from the ML that I’m like “hmm” about. I am not sure how I feel about the ML consistently being outsmarted and one-upped by the FL (literally every time since the start of the show). The power differential kinda rubbed me the wrong way?? I’m already sensitive to dramas that push the Girl Boss agenda at the expense of equal ML development. Perhaps I found some of it a little frustrating and unbelievable - like we have a pampered, spoiled noble lady who grew up with a silver spoon in her hand out on the streets without any resources or connections who is outsmarting the ML who literally grew up and survived on the streets. I was really hoping that after her first impulsive mishap that she would begin to respect the ML’s perspectives and his strengths. I was hoping that the ML would have been given some opportunities to showcase his skills. But it didn’t seem that way. The woman she helped against ZL’s warning, a situation that almost got them all seriously hurt, showed up later to be her maid (and helped her escape Sen and Zhao Ling). Serious plot armor, right there. Then she essentially robs Zhao Ling’s livelihood and manages to find the crown prince, makes wild decisions on ZL’s behalf without considering him, and basically everything ends up going perfectly well for her and there was not really any fallout or consequences.
Was there no character growth? No hard lesson learned that maybe Zhao Ling might know a thing or two about what he’s doing and maybe she should heed his advice? Doesn’t ZL have anything to offer this relationship outside of being a man that she can use to climb to power? I have no problem with her being determined and smart, but the ML is also smart and cunning as well… but she has always been a step ahead of him. And now she’s kind of making decisions for him and using him at the same time, and… well, Zhao Ling is not really pushing back a whole lot. THAT is my biggest issue. Her spoiledness and naïveté I could be OK with… if the ML had more of a backbone and stood up to her more firmly. It was kind of giving me the vibes that this is going to be a drama where this perfect, privileged rich girl is going to “fix” her problematic man’s life and he’s just going to go along with it instead of pushing back or maintaining his own identity. I’ll probably rewatch the episodes with my partner, so maybe I’ll see more the second time watching that may change my perspective. But episodes 5-6 were kind of a letdown.
Edit Nevermind I figured it out lol. Road Home and Moonlit Reunion. Thank god I’ve been wracking my brain all day.
This drama has been living in my head all day.
“Oh here’s an explanation of how women were celebrated with stone arches by the government for killing themselves in order to follow their husbands into death or for remaining chaste widows forever and then how women became severely oppressed and oftentimes starved to death, kept in isolation or outright murdered in order for the family to get more arches built for them isn’t that interesting :)”
Personally, I prioritize romance dramas and struggle to maintain interest if the romance isn’t there or if half of the couple is absent too much. The Double was highly rated a very well-written drama, but I got bored with the ML’s lack of screen time. Same with the Rebel Princess and Pursuit of Jade. As a hetero, romance loving female I like my lovely Asian men to have a presence in the romances that I watch and there isn’t anything wrong with that, or with anyone else who is similar as me.
People watch and engage with dramas according to their personal tastes and preferences 🤷🏼♀️ Oh and FYI, I am loving this drama so far and trust this director’s work as he directed a couple of my faves. Yeah I felt that the ML was missing a lot from the first few episodes, but it’s still early and the stage of the plot is being set.