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Just started watching-currently on ep 4 and i love it so far! Main characters are portrayed in a bit grotesque way which gives a dark comedy vibe. I only hope it wont go downhill later.

I honestly cant find any reason for that guest house setup. They were also doomed to live together in that mansion from the beginning-he as the oldest-still alive owner and she as the legal owner. 16 episodes are not enough if you wanna set up a guest house spending 4-5 episodes designing and picking wine glasses.

Romance hardly exists. It could be done better. ML is fine in terms of acting, FL starts to act after 6-7 episodes-dont expect any engaging performance. Overall, most of the viewers can predict what's going to happen after ep4-5

It lost focus. The premise of "soulmate who will not be his soulmate after all" was very good as an idea but i think they didnt handle it the way they should. Too much screen time wasted on setting up the guest house and practically for about 8 episodes nothing really happens than some randomly spread info

The second couple got me hooked. I loved their dynamics.
As for the whole drama...quite boring and predictable. Flat written, one dimension characters,nothing new nothing special. Not even Shin Hye Sun managed to save it with her always nice performance

Forbidden flower has copied so many scenes from other dramas, that i really got annoyed! They ve copied chinese older dramas ones, korean ones etc. Im not into any kind of skinship, only the one that has a point and is meaningful for the plot. In Forbidden flower scenes were very pretentious and with a very not natural light, i had to drop it. For real and artistic skinships -plus a very good -though tough movie, there's a korean oldie: Frozen Flower. Great performances as well.

Forbidden flower has copied so many scenes from other dramas, that i really got annoyed! They ve copied chinese older dramas ones, korean ones etc. Im not into any kind of skinship, only the one that has a point and is meaningful for the plot. In Forbidden flower scenes were very pretentious and with a very not natural light, i had to drop it. For real and artistic skinships -plus a very good -though tough movie, there's a korean oldie: Frozen Flower. Great performances as well.

A total failure. Where should i start? First of all, really BAD editing. They got from "cant stand the presence of you to-lets have sex and a relationship-that looks meh".
Maybe it was bad writing too.
Then, what kind of a character was that doctor? In the beginning she refused to report that the patient might be beaten by her husband AND refused to do some extra medical tests that eventually led to her death? And furthermore, she wants to avoid any kind of punishment by accusing the husband even though she was at fault? AND she goes to persuade the firefighter to report a man who just lost his wife?
What kind of monster is she?
There was no character development, no relationship building and sadly no story at all.
Too bad because the couple of actors were just fine.

I agree but kdramaland is full of that karmic destiny childhood bonding trope even in mpre serious and supposed mature dramas. Try older ones where cliches are not that many and not so often used. Personally that was the main reason that i prefer chinese and japanese dramas. They ve got their cliches too but not that much

Im 7 years late to read this comment but THANKS. Im also more into jdramas in general, cause characters are depicted raw, very relatable to real people. I ll drop this kversion and go straight to the japanese one (im im the middle of it). I couldnt relate though im about their age. Most people in their 40s, even though we may not be mature enough mentally (i wonder do people ever get mature?), but still we ve got some experience to reflect upon when things are complicated. We also tend to simplify things and not complicate. Here we watch 2 middle age people behaving like they were living in a cave for the first half of their lives. I know they had their trauma but still, its very annoying that kdramaland always depicts people having no relationships at all for many decades and suddenly BOOM there's the real thing.

Well i thought that the most unrelatable cliche of kdramas was the 30+ virgins (both genders) but now i brake my rule: people in their 40s and 50s having only one relationship/marriage 16 years ago and then...zero.
Ive watched to many kdramas and the only normal character was depicted at "Love to hate you" (the woman-cause the guy was ok a virgin as usual in his mid 30s)
On another note, this drama tried to fight ageism and stereotypes with....more ageism and stereotypes.
One of the many examples: when a man likes a woman +10 years older, he's got mommy issues-there's no possibility he likes her because HE REALLY does like her.
But when a man likes his best friend who is like a sister to him for more than 30 years, its ok.
And all the above coming out of actors as lines from a commercial spot, preaching while staring the nature around, silly contemplations about life and relationships again and again .
The only good thing was the elder couple: relatable people, full of sexual desires, traumas, fears, conflicts, physical contact that comes naturally.

Haha yes! She has that classic beauty look (i even found a greek actress same age who looks exactly like her). I find him sexy-but not objectively handsome.
They look great together though! Opposites attraction dynamics.
For southeastern Asians, 9 years is a huge gap (ageism at its best). As for the couple, in the movie "second virginity" there's a very nice bed scene between them and since ive got a "nose" for real couples, i ve searched and thats how i found out. They are also not married though together for many years-so i guess they break the rules in evey aspect.
In the article i found, they met at the drama and they announced their relationship a bit afterwards

Park Shi Hoo looks EXACTLY like Luo Jin
in this drama! Same face same expressions!
Btw he's sooooo hot in that ninja look!

Oh i see. So i guess its also a matter of which country we re talking about. Life beats soap operas! What kind of education is this when parents are allowed to hit teachers and what kind of impression does this attitude leave to the kids. its scary!

For all the shippers out there,
the couple is real life couple as well.
They are together since 2010

raw
https://terbit21.green/second-virginity-2011/

and the subs
https://my-subs.co/downloads/x6mVCJjQXi4kBQM4oywMVGGkYqW2DUNUahOFUIlhkgBIoIoOrf_ewYV20nnfMTq80.9RKePTW8tIaoZ_newLp3rFNYbskvaH9rBnzVxulJH7vWp7YsJlchdrY4bI0kL3jG.REJj3lHqkaSQ4AZcFbzNn5Ql.PCxBbkQcSqCOZdw-

Actually is not a prequel, its a movie-not exactly a continuation of the main story, which goes like this: 5 years later (and not 2 as in the drama) instead of getting shot, he gets in the middle of an explosion as he runs away from the mafia, he is "hospitalized" in a primitive hospital somewhere in a village. There his life is in danger and we see some extra scenes that are not included in the drama-hot ones and very well shot and directed- but it has no eng subs. I found the movie in thai (i think) subs. The ending scene shows the 2 of them hugging on his bed while he looks like recovering, I found eng subs in english but only subs in srt file, and the conclusion is that mafia still looks for him to kill him -their ending dialogue is not very optimistic but i dont get it as he looks really recovered much. Kinda open ending

I made a mistake. I meant Yumi's cells (the first one where he's the ML). Yeap im not into medical dramas either! I ll continue watching this one cause i also love Shin Hye 's acting. Overall the concept is interesting. Thanks for the info!
(its hard to see a male actor's acting skills in most Kdramas, when often the ML character has to be aloof, cold etc lol

He is alive in the end and they are still together. And the preview here is wrong. She is not in Malaysia with his wife. I wonder who wrote that!

I found the movie -unfortunately no eng subs
The preview here is wrong. She is not in Malaysia with his wife, but with him. He gets shot but he is still alive in critical condition. The whole movie is showing that he was not Japanese but Taiwanese and a mafia member (i got it from the few english dialogues in the movie). He is alive at the end, but i think he will be in prison after he gets on his feet. The film ends with the two of them hugging on his bed, he looks paralysed but alive. If you dont find it, you re not missing anything. Im just writing this for happy ending fans who cant get over sad endings: so they get together at the end dont worry :)