Also, if I'm understanding this correctly so far, did her mother take her to get an abortion at 14? Is that right?…
She's a minor living in an apartment bought by a sugar daddy. Where's her mother now? I seriously feel like a background story where this FL was sexually abused and her mother knew about it is where we're headed. Especially with the way the FL is completely demoralized and with her willingness to sell her body at such a young age. Sex for her is nothing but a tool. Age and gender don't matter because there's no feeling behind it whatsoever. That's completely different from being slutty because of a high sex drive.
No young child would naturally think of selling their body as a means to make money. It wouldn't even cross their minds unless someone didn't lead them to it and/or if they hadn't already been inappropriately exposed to sex already and had already become desensitized to it.
Also, if I'm understanding this correctly so far, did her mother take her to get an abortion at 14? Is that right?…
The way this girl treats people and genuinely just doesn't care is a whole new level of broken that I haven't seen. Her humanity is completely gone. Wow.
I just started watching this and I'm watching the severe bullying happening with people right there acting like…
Oh and is that guy with the brain tumor and the death certificate the ML? So he's dying? I don't like tragedies. No one is saying anything about it in the comments though.
I just started watching this and I'm watching the severe bullying happening with people right there acting like…
Also, if I'm understanding this correctly so far, did her mother take her to get an abortion at 14? Is that right? People like to call girls who get pregnant young sluts but getting pregnant at 14 in most cases (unless they were with a kid their own age) means the girl was targeted. Most girls aren't naturally promiscuous at such a young age. There's usually a lot more to it, although people like to pretend otherwise. Either they're being exposed to certain things to young or these someone influencing and/or messing with them.
I just started watching this and I'm watching the severe bullying happening with people right there acting like nothing at all is happening right next to them. There's a reason someone like me cannot be bullied. I'd fight to the death if I have to. I also would lose my shit on anyone I saw bullying someone else. I would have lost my shit on that entire classroom of losers who stood there and did nothing while someone was being humiliated and tortured by others right in front of them for no reason other than them being weaker. I wish something like this would happen around me. I have a lot of anger I could stand to work off.
That's not even to mention the fact that their actions were going way beyond bullying to actual serious criminal offenses. 1) Forcefully sexually abusing the girl (by stripping her naked), 2) taking nude photos without consent, 3) taking nude photos of a minor, 4) illegally distributing said photo (by uploading it on a porn site), 5) child pornography (she's a minor and it's being posted on a sex site). All of those girls could do some serious time in prison.
I literally do not understand a single thing I just watched. I don’t understand the “romance” people are…
EXACTLY!!! Comparing it to 50 Shades and 365 Days. It is so NOT either of those. Honestly, the people comparing those two movies also clearly don't understand how different THEY are either so maybe I shouldn't be surprised that they consider this similar too. It just shows that completely lack any basic understanding of what was romantic about those movies.
The milk thing is their safe word. And yeah… stay on for the ride! I expected something more vanilla myself😅
Exactly! A safe word NOT for sexual interactions. It makes no damn sense whatsoever! There's no understanding of BDSM culture but they're here trying to apply it left and right and doing it so wrong!!! I'm not at all an expert but basic understanding isn't hard to find so the fact that people are thinking this is it and that this is good writing is so frustrating to me. This is toxicity not romance!
But I've only watched an hour of the compiled movie version on YouTube so maybe I just haven't gotten to whatever it is everyone is here gushing about. What I've seen so far though is very wrong and twisted and NOT at all like 50 Shades. There's no romance in this. Not so far.
It’s her safe word with him. In bondage, the couple always have safe words that mean stop. They keep going until…
It's so stupid how they're applying the safe word to the entire relationship when in BDSM the safe words are used strictly for sexual interactions. You leave that behind when you aren't playing.
I thought I was watching 365days (chinese version) 🤣🤣lol and how can I forgot the safe word that concept…
365 Days and 50 Shades were based on sensuality, lust, desire and romance. 50 Shades had BDSM built in which, again, is based on sensuality and lust and desire and TRUST, and of course, pain. I started watching a condensed version of this on YouTube and for the entire first hour I saw nothing but abuse. There was literally no lust or actual desire from the ML. There was only pure disgust towards the FL. He literally wanted her to be someone else and hated that she was not.
I don't understand how so many people do not understand the underlying dynamic in 50 Shades and 365 Days to the point that you can compare this abusive crap to those movies. They are not at all the same.
Safe words aren't rare. It's literally BDSM 101. If this drama was trying to portray a BDSM relationship though it failed completely because disgust towards the partner is NOT a part of it.
I only watched the first hour of this though so maybe it gets more sensual later on and I just didn't see it. I stopped right at 1:01:00 on the YouTube movie version and its full length is 4:17:29 so, understandably, there's a lot more to the story that I have not seen.
Not sure if I'll go back and finish it to find out. Maybe...
This drama doesn't make sense. Even though the FL is really good the ML doesn't seem to fit for me, he looks like…
I'm watching it as a condensed video on YouTube but ending up stopping after just over an hour. Nothing about this seems romantic. I agree with you, it's very dark. Unnecessarily so. I don't understand what people find romantic about any of the behavior I've seen thus far.
Maybe I just haven't watched enough yet though. I wasn't feeling it so I stopped but I may go back to see if it gets any better. Haven't decided yet.
LOL! How funny you are. You completely assumed you knew why I asked the question then proceeded to make a very judgemental comment. Where exactly did I say that Chinese romcoms were not what I enjoyed?
I asked because I became aware of the fact that it is, in fact, a thing for script submissions to be turned in by regular people and even learn that some entertainment companies hold competitions for script submissions. I had heard that some colleges in China hold similar competitions, that are sponsored by different entertainment companies. I just wasn't sure how common or widespread of a practice that was and/or if they did it for high schoolers too. I was curious to know if this actually was more widespread that I had previously thought. I wanted to see if it was sort of like the anime culture in Japan in some ways.
I specifically stated that, "I'm not looking for random guesses or opinions. I'm trying to gain real understanding from people who have actual insight into the Chinese entertainment industry." Your comment is exactly what I was NOT looking for.
There's a whole lot more than drug charges with this guy. There's sexual assault charges, bribery charges and…
Just read the updated bio above and you'll see what I'm referring to:
"On July 30, 2019, police stated that they are investigating Park Yoo Chun over bribery allegation in his sexual assault investigation which resulted in all charges against him were dropped by the police back in 2016."
I'm very aware that people are constantly making false accusations against stars to bring them down. It's a huge problem. However, it's not always false. At some at some point you start realizing there are too many issues popping up repeatedly for some stars, which makes you realize there may be some merit to the accusations. If you read that bio again, his agency even stuck through it and fought it with him - at first. Then, they too dropped him. That's a major red flag. It's one thing if the agency had dropped him in the middle all of the other mess but for them to drop him even after fighting alongside him before, to me, that says a lot. Plus he comes around and later acknowledges things he previously denied.
Quite frankly, his specific situation sounds very bad to me. Like Burning Man bad. I, personally, tend to NOT believe most of the scandals. I also feel like many things that become scandals in Korea are just ridiculous. It has nothing to do with entertainer's ability to perform so stay the hell away from their personal lives. BUT, when it comes to the heavy hitters like sexual assault and bribery and all that, we're talking a whole different level of entertainers who should be dropped and banned.
Still, I don't know much about this guys particular case other than the few articles I read and the bio above.
I just felt like his story here is VERY different from some of the other big ones in the news where people are being shamed, banned and even incarcerated for taking prescribed antidepressants or for simple marijuana use. Those stories and this one ring very differently to me, which is why I felt the need to point out that it's more than just the drug use that's a concern here.
Why do you feel like it is not complete? all characters arc were ended properly. And the main ended up together…
Wow. That other person's last response was pretty rude. I reread it a few times to be sure I wasn't misinterpreting but my final impression is - what an ass.
Your explanation was appreciated by others. Just so you know. I haven't watched the drama yet and your breakdown helped curb some hesitancy I was having about getting started.
lol i noticed that too. i hate these kind of triangles though. that's your best friend's ex and he saw how destroyed…
Bear with me here. I tried not to comment but that other person's comments just didn't sit well with me.
I agree with your comments wholeheartedly. There are some lines of friendship that you should never cross and some people are simply off limits. Period. Had he met her first and maybe gotten close to her and developed feelings but never gotten to the point of dating or something, but then the ML met her and they fell in love, then I could understand it. That was NOT the case at all though.
Also, the SML may seem to have a more appealing personality to some but to others, like myself, he's just drab and boring and flavorless in comparison to the ML. Just because someone seems to be a better fit on paper doesn't make them the right person for another in real life. THAT is where the phrase "the heart wants what the heart wants" comes into play. What draws and connects us to someone isn't their specs. But that doesn't mean we can't immediately put someone in a place of being untouchable immediately upon meeting them. That's how mature, respectable adults behave. For example, if a man meets his sister-in-law for the first time, it's not okay for him to start pining after her, is it? Does it happen? Yes. Does that make it okay? Hell no!
Additionally, it's not just a K-drama thing that people always remember their first loves. That's a pretty common belief amongst pretty much all cultures. That doesn't mean you're still harboring feelings for and hoping to be with your first love for the rest of your life, but that they will always hold a special place in your heart. It's because they were the first ones to make you experience many feelings. First loves are also often viewed as the hardest to let go of. Just wanted to clarify that point.
To say you were self-inserting yourself into the role of the ML was bs. THAT is what drove me to respond, in depth. You simply have your preferences just like that other commenter had theirs. Ironically, THEY were projecting THEIR OWN preferences in their defense of the SML's behavior. Unlike that other commenter I particularly HATE love triangles, with a passion. That's not to say I haven't come across some that I enjoyed and appreciated but, for the most part, I try to avoid them or they just frustrated and irritate me. To make it seem like that are more common that not in real life too is also a fallacy. Someone being attracted to another person who may already be in a relationship? Yes, of course! That's hella common. But actual love triangles, where there is more than one person fighting to be with another, is NOT. Normally, when someone sees two people vibing on one another they back off or make it known they're interested too and both play fair. To continue pursuing someone you see is interested in someone else, who's also interested in them in return makes you an asshole. Seriously. I'm not talking about dramaland storylines here. I'm talking about reality. Of course, if the other 2 people are an actual couple and you continue trying to steal that person away you are simply an exceptional asshole. Love triangles, in real life, are nowhere near as common as they are depicted in dramas because that shit isn't as cute and bubbly as it's depicted in dramas. People who don't understand boundaries are the ones who become cheaters.
I, personally, rarely ever root for second leads. I want to see the story of the romance between the leads - how it develops and grows and how they overcome hurdles together. I do not like seeing messiness involving outsiders. I feel like it's just taking me away from what I really want to see. Good healthy relationships don't have other people on the sidelines. Many people find those kinds of dramas boring but I find all the other melodrama to be just messy. I'm not saying I don't enjoy it when I'm in the mood for it, but for the most part I can do without it. However, I also don't harp on people who DO enjoy that kind of stuff. Those who like all the messiness and melodrama. They like the excitement of it all AND THAT'S FINE! BUT IT'S JUST AS FINE NOT TOO!
Here's some more irony for you. A lot of the times you'll find that the people who love that stuff haven't ever been in those situations themselves so they don't get how stressful, frustrating and even agonizing they can be. They like it in dramas because they want that excitement in their lives in the only way they can get it. It's the ones who HAVE been through all that stuff that tend to watch less of it or even avoid it. LOL!
Anyway, I'm rambling now too. LOL! My point is, I agree with you. I dislike the way the other person made it seem like your viewpoint was flawed just because it differed from their personal preferences. It has nothing to you being new to Kdramas or any of that. It's simply that you both like different things which is perfectly okay. It's also that you have very strong and positive morals and values about friendship and, quite frankly, I wouldn't want friends with no boundaries on dating those around them like they seem to be okay with. That's some high school crap.
No young child would naturally think of selling their body as a means to make money. It wouldn't even cross their minds unless someone didn't lead them to it and/or if they hadn't already been inappropriately exposed to sex already and had already become desensitized to it.
That's not even to mention the fact that their actions were going way beyond bullying to actual serious criminal offenses. 1) Forcefully sexually abusing the girl (by stripping her naked), 2) taking nude photos without consent, 3) taking nude photos of a minor, 4) illegally distributing said photo (by uploading it on a porn site), 5) child pornography (she's a minor and it's being posted on a sex site). All of those girls could do some serious time in prison.
But I've only watched an hour of the compiled movie version on YouTube so maybe I just haven't gotten to whatever it is everyone is here gushing about. What I've seen so far though is very wrong and twisted and NOT at all like 50 Shades. There's no romance in this. Not so far.
I don't understand how so many people do not understand the underlying dynamic in 50 Shades and 365 Days to the point that you can compare this abusive crap to those movies. They are not at all the same.
Safe words aren't rare. It's literally BDSM 101. If this drama was trying to portray a BDSM relationship though it failed completely because disgust towards the partner is NOT a part of it.
I only watched the first hour of this though so maybe it gets more sensual later on and I just didn't see it. I stopped right at 1:01:00 on the YouTube movie version and its full length is 4:17:29 so, understandably, there's a lot more to the story that I have not seen.
Not sure if I'll go back and finish it to find out. Maybe...
Maybe I just haven't watched enough yet though. I wasn't feeling it so I stopped but I may go back to see if it gets any better. Haven't decided yet.
I asked because I became aware of the fact that it is, in fact, a thing for script submissions to be turned in by regular people and even learn that some entertainment companies hold competitions for script submissions. I had heard that some colleges in China hold similar competitions, that are sponsored by different entertainment companies. I just wasn't sure how common or widespread of a practice that was and/or if they did it for high schoolers too. I was curious to know if this actually was more widespread that I had previously thought. I wanted to see if it was sort of like the anime culture in Japan in some ways.
I specifically stated that, "I'm not looking for random guesses or opinions. I'm trying to gain real understanding from people who have actual insight into the Chinese entertainment industry." Your comment is exactly what I was NOT looking for.
Genuinely glad you were able to.
"On July 30, 2019, police stated that they are investigating Park Yoo Chun over bribery allegation in his sexual assault investigation which resulted in all charges against him were dropped by the police back in 2016."
I'm very aware that people are constantly making false accusations against stars to bring them down. It's a huge problem. However, it's not always false. At some at some point you start realizing there are too many issues popping up repeatedly for some stars, which makes you realize there may be some merit to the accusations. If you read that bio again, his agency even stuck through it and fought it with him - at first. Then, they too dropped him. That's a major red flag. It's one thing if the agency had dropped him in the middle all of the other mess but for them to drop him even after fighting alongside him before, to me, that says a lot. Plus he comes around and later acknowledges things he previously denied.
Quite frankly, his specific situation sounds very bad to me. Like Burning Man bad. I, personally, tend to NOT believe most of the scandals. I also feel like many things that become scandals in Korea are just ridiculous. It has nothing to do with entertainer's ability to perform so stay the hell away from their personal lives. BUT, when it comes to the heavy hitters like sexual assault and bribery and all that, we're talking a whole different level of entertainers who should be dropped and banned.
Still, I don't know much about this guys particular case other than the few articles I read and the bio above.
I just felt like his story here is VERY different from some of the other big ones in the news where people are being shamed, banned and even incarcerated for taking prescribed antidepressants or for simple marijuana use. Those stories and this one ring very differently to me, which is why I felt the need to point out that it's more than just the drug use that's a concern here.
Your explanation was appreciated by others. Just so you know. I haven't watched the drama yet and your breakdown helped curb some hesitancy I was having about getting started.
I agree with your comments wholeheartedly. There are some lines of friendship that you should never cross and some people are simply off limits. Period. Had he met her first and maybe gotten close to her and developed feelings but never gotten to the point of dating or something, but then the ML met her and they fell in love, then I could understand it. That was NOT the case at all though.
Also, the SML may seem to have a more appealing personality to some but to others, like myself, he's just drab and boring and flavorless in comparison to the ML. Just because someone seems to be a better fit on paper doesn't make them the right person for another in real life. THAT is where the phrase "the heart wants what the heart wants" comes into play. What draws and connects us to someone isn't their specs. But that doesn't mean we can't immediately put someone in a place of being untouchable immediately upon meeting them. That's how mature, respectable adults behave. For example, if a man meets his sister-in-law for the first time, it's not okay for him to start pining after her, is it? Does it happen? Yes. Does that make it okay? Hell no!
Additionally, it's not just a K-drama thing that people always remember their first loves. That's a pretty common belief amongst pretty much all cultures. That doesn't mean you're still harboring feelings for and hoping to be with your first love for the rest of your life, but that they will always hold a special place in your heart. It's because they were the first ones to make you experience many feelings. First loves are also often viewed as the hardest to let go of. Just wanted to clarify that point.
To say you were self-inserting yourself into the role of the ML was bs. THAT is what drove me to respond, in depth. You simply have your preferences just like that other commenter had theirs. Ironically, THEY were projecting THEIR OWN preferences in their defense of the SML's behavior. Unlike that other commenter I particularly HATE love triangles, with a passion. That's not to say I haven't come across some that I enjoyed and appreciated but, for the most part, I try to avoid them or they just frustrated and irritate me. To make it seem like that are more common that not in real life too is also a fallacy. Someone being attracted to another person who may already be in a relationship? Yes, of course! That's hella common. But actual love triangles, where there is more than one person fighting to be with another, is NOT. Normally, when someone sees two people vibing on one another they back off or make it known they're interested too and both play fair. To continue pursuing someone you see is interested in someone else, who's also interested in them in return makes you an asshole. Seriously. I'm not talking about dramaland storylines here. I'm talking about reality. Of course, if the other 2 people are an actual couple and you continue trying to steal that person away you are simply an exceptional asshole. Love triangles, in real life, are nowhere near as common as they are depicted in dramas because that shit isn't as cute and bubbly as it's depicted in dramas. People who don't understand boundaries are the ones who become cheaters.
I, personally, rarely ever root for second leads. I want to see the story of the romance between the leads - how it develops and grows and how they overcome hurdles together. I do not like seeing messiness involving outsiders. I feel like it's just taking me away from what I really want to see. Good healthy relationships don't have other people on the sidelines. Many people find those kinds of dramas boring but I find all the other melodrama to be just messy. I'm not saying I don't enjoy it when I'm in the mood for it, but for the most part I can do without it. However, I also don't harp on people who DO enjoy that kind of stuff. Those who like all the messiness and melodrama. They like the excitement of it all AND THAT'S FINE! BUT IT'S JUST AS FINE NOT TOO!
Here's some more irony for you. A lot of the times you'll find that the people who love that stuff haven't ever been in those situations themselves so they don't get how stressful, frustrating and even agonizing they can be. They like it in dramas because they want that excitement in their lives in the only way they can get it. It's the ones who HAVE been through all that stuff that tend to watch less of it or even avoid it. LOL!
Anyway, I'm rambling now too. LOL! My point is, I agree with you. I dislike the way the other person made it seem like your viewpoint was flawed just because it differed from their personal preferences. It has nothing to you being new to Kdramas or any of that. It's simply that you both like different things which is perfectly okay. It's also that you have very strong and positive morals and values about friendship and, quite frankly, I wouldn't want friends with no boundaries on dating those around them like they seem to be okay with. That's some high school crap.