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But the problem is there will always be backlash, because of how toxic fans can be. But I think if they just told it early on, the backlash might not be that bad, because Akin and Jin were very popular when the #JinAkinarereal hit.

Just look at how Mew and Tul handled it, yes Mew got backlash from the MewGulf fans who still can’t handle the fact that that was just fanservice. But most of the fans are very happy and excited for them.

I never read or saw the novel or the anime series, so I have no material to compare it to. But I do hear from others who have seen it, that the series is a good representation of it, some say just like you that it’s better. The director is trying to be very loyal to the source material. Which is nice to see for a change. Only novel I ever read was Love Syndrome, which was pretty problematic in itself.

If I may butt in, I personally loved Love in the big City (Korean) and Secret Relationship, both are mature adult themed. Out of Japan, I was impressed by When it Rains it Poors, but thats a series that not everybody likes. Also mature adult themed. I could recommend those 3 to anybody who wants to watch more adult themed series.

Edit: would you watch bromance series?

This show is better than most of the Gmmtv series so far, I don’t get how people say it’s not good. I rather have these sorts of series, where the acting is just flawless, where the emotions are constantly on point and so raw, where the direction is just top notch! Then have mediocre acting, chemistry not even remotely good, stiff actors, weird angles for nc scenes or just plain kissing (yes I’m talking about director New), where the use of music is full of variaty and so fitting, instead of the constant same OST/songs under scenes. The show is so good that the few flaws that it has are barely noticeable, unless you go looking for something to complain about.

It’s the same fans that moan about, that they want Santa back as a Top, because he has become to “cute”. Those fans don’t seem to realize that Santa is just being offered a role. I also think it has something to do with the input of the director and the team behind it.

Fans need to understand that actors have boundaries, and that you don’t ask certain things, this is one of those! I personally don’t have any problems or hate for Cooheart, I love that he is bit by bit showing that clothing isn’t defined to a certain gender. It takes so much courage to that.

Only thing I would say is, I would like to see him in a different role then what he so far has been given. I think a lot of actors are currently being pushed in roles that they have had or done before. There is a word for it, which I currently cannot remember anymore. I think Cooheart can do much more, then only the safe roles.

Agreed! Thankfully they don’t use the trope that often anymore! It’s the fact that there are just no consequences, In TharnType the best friend of Tharn (who orgastrated a gang rape) moved to Germany with his sister and the girl in Live on Love who wanted to organize a gang rape, was also send abroad by the parents. Like what the actual fuck? I could understand using the trope of there are actually consequences for the perpetrators. But so far 🤯😵‍💫😵 (also those two series popped up easiest, if I think about it longer there probably will be more!)

That comment section was brutal to anything negative about Cooheart and the character he played. But yeah I agree with your opinion about Ter.

I know you stopped watching, I think I talked about it with you on the TopForm MDL page. I’m still watching, I tend to need to finish series. But yeah the trope needs to stop being used, it’s giving the insentive that it’s okay, which it’s not.

Only thing I can say is I’m glad it isn’t used like in some Chinese series, where the girl gets SA or r*ped and the victim falls for their abuser or viceversa. Which I know how ridiculous it sounds to even mention it like that.

I think you are seriously the first one who also says that Ter stopped being a friend to North the moment he found it more important to have North be together with Johan. For me it got to a point that it felt like Ter was interrogating North to get the juicy bits. Even when North said he felt uncomfortable by him or Johan. There were times I wanted to shake him so hard, like for crying out loud listen to your friend and stop with the shipping!

But yeah I finished it but practically FF all the scenes between Hill and Ter. Pond was so freaking limited in his acting during that series. And there are seriously fans that want Cooheart to be with Pond as a couple! The chemistry was non existent for me. I’m looking forward to seeing him in Reset, seems like his acting will be challenged much more in that one.

Oh totally agreed! And people switch like clockwork when it comes to characters. Just look under the comment section of TopForn for example, people seem to have forgotten what Johnny did in a instance because he had a “shipper” moment, where he was watching Jun and Akin together. Like can we stick to not liking a guy for like longer then a week? Do they not have morals or is it because it’s just a series? I personally still can’t stand the character Boston (from Only friends).

True, but I personally am of the opinion that Payu and Rain had more of a Dom/sub relationship and Payu being soft with Rain was him testing out Rain his boundaries. Maybe Sorn just lacks patience 😉

Honestly it would be nice if we for once get a mature series where the bottom is not some kind of helpless little young boy, who needs to be saved by big strong guy, let him stand on his own! Most of the bl series show characters who were between 20/25 years old. They are young adults/adults, old enough to get out into the big scary world! I want to see a bottom who doesnt bow down by some bully, person who thinks they are more or hides behind his “top”.

Is that also the lesson you as a company or series, want to through out into the world, that you just have to find a strong boyfriend who will protect from everything? Newsflash he/she/they aren’t going to be there for you always. (I sound bitter 😅). Why can’t bl series show, that love can be an addition to your life, not that your whole life and personality has to become your lovelife.

With that group of friends, who all watch BL, some are much older then me (I’m 34). Who when something happens to one of the actors go “oh our pour babies, or my poor babies”, it’s just like gross don’t do that. That are human people we are talking about, most are over 22, they are no babies, they are young men! And for some it might be a motherly feelings (which personally grosses me out even more). Thankfully one of my friends thinks the same way, so sometimes I can complain about it to her. Maybe it’s the culture I’m used too, we tend to be way to serious, sober and stiff for that stuff.

The whole infantilize thing was one of the reasons I just couldn’t watch Hill and Ter in Fourever You part one. I know New recently has a habit of having actors act younger or more childlike but that one… Nothing wrong with Cooheart just the way he played his character was not for me. To damsel in destress, to little helpless boy needs help with everything!

I get the frustration though, I wish Gmmtv would touch some series that show the difficulties and struggles people have in the LGBTQIA+ community. That might actually open some eyes to those fans. But it’s seems to be to much of a taboo, so they stay on the safe sides. I personally loved series as Love in the big city or I told sunset about you. I would like it if they did a series with a good polyamorous storyline.

Also totally different subject but it would be nice if for once during nc scenes there are some bottles of lube shown, only series so far that showed it (used it) was 4 minutes. But then again Durex was sponser for the series.

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I personally cringe when I hear my other BL friends go on and on about “their babies” that they need to protect. You have no idea how the comment section under the series 10 liners bugged me, especially during the YothaGun storyline. Like Gun is not some helpless little boy you need to save from the big bad wolf named Yotha. Also Yotha was never a red flag character, just somebody trying to heal from his trauma. As you can see, still frustrated by it!

As for Sorn and Jun I feel like those two are just playing a game with each other, the game of who can hold out the longest. Jun is clearly comfortable and enjoying his time with Sorn, and Sorn tries to be very tactful and oblivious, yet he anything but that.

I want to say it was as subtle as Payu was with Rain but Payu had a bit more tact and I did feel like Rain was a bit naive in the beginning. Payu was attracted towards Rain from the first meeting and I think the same can be said of Sorn towards Jun. Why am I involve Payu and Rain into this? No idea it’s late and it just popped up.

I feel like you have been watching the wrong series then. Because except for the Gmmtv series almost every single series has had nc scenes. With TopForm and The Boy Next World leading the charge.

Or are that the photos of Jin and Akin, I mean Akin his manager/producer (still not sure what the guy does) did warm Akin, that they scrubbed the phone of the stalker but that there are possibilities that the photos still got out. Though I wouldn’t be suprised if they use those pictures to destroy, do damage, to Akin, Jin or both their careers.

It’s quite curious that non of the fans of #JinAkinisreal hasn’t made posts or compared the necklaces with each other. I mean we all know that there are die hard fans in the real bl community, that would search and search, and compare jewelry from actors 😂

I absolutely agree with you, the actors are doing such a fenomenable job, not to mention the director!

I do have to say that, I think some Gmmtv actors probably are also on the same level as YinWar, if only Gmmtv would use their talents. And not have them do the constant comedy, immature, high school dramas, where their acting talents don’t get challenged more. The last mature good bl drama series Gmmtv did was last twilight, in my opinion.

I do agree with you. Even more seeing the absolutele torment Johnny put Kin through, the moment Jin said you didn’t have sex with him, you can see the weight on Kin his shoulders falling away! His knees literally buckle.

And what does Johnny do? He laughs and mocks Kin not to mention the fact that he tried to get Jin also drunk for whatever reason. I do not see any redemption in him, he is not sorry. I personally do hope that the audio of Johnny saying all of it, gets leaked somehow. Or that they do something with it. He still touched, marked and undressed him, without Kin his permission. Honestly I find it all kinds of wrong. We all know that Johnny would’ve gone trough with it, if it wasn’t for Kim mumbling Jin his name. He even mentions and acknowledges it himself, so the argument “he didn’t penetrate akin” isn’t valid here (not that it ever is) because the intention was there from the beginning.

Did we watch the same series? Feels like you are mixing up series there.

Agreed. I found Unforgotten Night such a let down. They couldn’t even give us a decent BDSM scene, it would be nice if the entertainment company’s, gave a series that gives a good representation of it. I see people recommend it as a spicy BL, but really there are much better ones out there.