Don't worry, you're not the only one confused. Technically this is a series (if you go to viki you can see 4 ep). Lately, when a BLs with short episodes ends, they merge all episodes and make a "movie".
That's all ok and good, but I don't understand why they edited the pages so only one of them exists for this story, other series have both. Now this appears not as a series and neither as a movie, but as a special. I was going crazy looking for it in the main actor's page.
I need bl shows to start being realistic when it comes to men having sex with each other spontaneously like that…
I get what you mean, but they didn't show us an explicit scene, we just saw the beggining and the after, just that. ( and the beggining was a lot of foreplay without hurry, so I doubt very much they went suddenly like "down bam bam")
Also, if confesing to White is something that Sean planed or at least thought about, I think the guy threw condoms and lube into his backpack just in case lol
One thing I really liked about this new unsaid rule of some bls of the past 2 years is that they broke the stereotypes of who is supposed to be top and bottom and how they should behave. Body mass/height, dominance and confidence (or lack of it) doesn't mean shit to sexual positions, so Sean could very much be the bottom one (in fact I can see him as a dominant bottom) I like that they weren't specific with that with Sarawatine, Patpran and Seanwhite, implying that the mayority of real gay couples are very much verse.
(also I read not long ago that doctors -and gay doctors at that- discourage the notion you have to use enemas or invasive methods to clean yourself if you're going to have sex. It's ok to do it every once in a while if you want, but doing it constantly can fuck your intestinal flora. Just go to the bathroom 1 or 2 hours before, don't eat in a few hours and you good. Also: condoms)
Maybe Gram used to like Black but then he moved on to Eugene. I can't make sense of this otherwise
Maybe the do a 3 Will Be Free???? Otherwise I have no idea. Sometimes I think Gram likes Black but feel guilty for Eugene and that's why he tries to them be back together (that and bc he thinks that no way in hell Black would like him) But then they show us those scenes of Gram staring at Eugene and, hey! It could be still as friends, but after making Namo being in love with Sean (I would swear just yesterday that were just friends and I was so happy with that) I don't know anything anymore.
Jheez why does this sound like such a negative post & Why would she be doing Military service while shes pregnant....…
"basic degree of decency to maintain in replying" I really hate when people say "you need to relax" bc usually it's used in gaslightning and mansplaining contexts, but this is not that situation.
@KoreanLover94 only said "Jheez" and "why this sound like a negative post", they weren't rude or disrespectful. You made a ironic comment, they didn't get it, that's it. You were snappy and sarcastic, some would say straight rude, implying they were moronic and stupid. I just told you that language barriers are a thing, not everyone has english as first language, so maybe that's why they didn't get the sarcasm. Just take a breath, relax a little and try to not pay it whatever is troubling you on strangers on the internet. And I say this without irony or sarcasm or whatever, you seem on edge.
@YodaD thank you, I always mess it up with some verb conjugations, specially the irregulars. Languages, so damn tricky sometimes.
Jheez why does this sound like such a negative post & Why would she be doing Military service while shes pregnant....…
There's a lot of people here that don't have english as their first language, you should consider this, there the confusion.
Also, if these past years have teached us anything is that there's no limit to human stupidity. I'm barely surprised now when I see the news, I'm just tired.
I’m really confused…. The trailer looks like it has nothing to do with the summary… Could someone tell me what is this about? Bc I haven’t seen a single pastry in the trailer and it seems it’s more about the Bakumatsu than anything else.
I’m confused too. If you meant the prologue of Romeo & Juliet, the name is “Two Households”. Also you could explain what you mean instead of replying you’re sorry they were confused.
For those upset by the last episodes ('that' thing), here's my meta:(Originally it was a response to a comment…
The reason they killed Pil-do was bc he made her want to became 'human'.
There's a lot of symbolism around the concept of 'beach'. - She went first with her father, in open daylight, public place, summer probably and it's a lovely sight. (human - light) - Later she used to met Choi Mujin at the sea too, but it was near an industrial site with warehouses, at night and there's no sand, only rocks. (monster - night)
- Then Pil-do took her to another beach. It was at night but it was a proper beach with sand (she was a monster -night- but he was showing her that she could still go back to be human, that she wasn't a monster completely with no return -a proper beach with sand and with a safe place to rest). There, she transitioned and 'came back' tentatively as human, or at least she tried to (they decided to punish Mujin in their terms, by the law of humans -sending him to prison-; not by Mujin terms, the law of monsters -killing him-.
(Another thing to consider is that Mujin wanted to give her a perfect life far away from monsters: a dream house by the beach. But he never got to give it to her. At the end the one who took her to a beach with a tiny but cozy house the first chance he got, was Pil-do. And he took her there at her lowest moments, putting his life at risk; not like Mujin who let go the idea the moment he felt betrayed and she wasn't useful anymore)
They woke up to a beach under the sun, and she took a walk by herself ("can I be a human by myself and not only when I'm near Pil-do?"), and she decided she liked it and was ok with the change.
Then when the arrest order came to Mujin, he became enraged. Bc she choose to punish him by the rules of cops, not by the rules of his world (outright killing him face to face). He took that as a tremendous disrespect, like she was moving on and he didn't matter so much anymore to her (or maybe her father's death didn't matter so much anymore to her. Or maybe that he wasn't so important as DongHoon's killer. There's a lot of complicated feelings there).
I don't think he knew what Pil-do meant to her, as you can see his surprised and guilty reaction whe she told him. But he could see Pil-do was loyal to her, or at least was trying to help her. Also killing him in front of the police building and in broad daylight by HIMSELF was both to put a target on her back and to try to enrage her ("if you don't kill me personally, I will kill anyone around you no matter the place or time"). Mujin wanted to die, wanted to be punished for the death of DongHoon, but he only would accept it if it was by Sujin's hands.
I don't like they killed Pil-do, but narratively it makes sense. That's why also they killed him with a shot to the head -there's no doubt of his death, so no miraculous recovery. It was also a kind of mercy, he didn't die bleeding out painfully or full of fear in torture. No, it was sudden and his last moment with her was a happy one, hoping for a better future together.
What I don't know is what she's gonna do now. They gave us a kind of open ending, I suppose in case they chose to make a second season, but enough wrapped out it would be ok if they don't.
Another detail I kind of liked it was the thrid urn with ashes in the mausoleum. I do think it was of Mujin. She recognized the bond they had. The show never talked about her mother and the narrative implied a lot of things. Like Jiwoo was more important to DongHoon (her father) that her mother (like when she asked if he would change anything if he could time travel and he didn't even mention her mother, only her -and a lot of complicated gazes)
Mujin himself acknowledged that DongHoon had multiples chances to kill him and he couldn't bring himself to do it. He doesn't say it like he thinks DongHoon is weak (no one who goes undercover into a criminal ring and became a second is weak), but he realised that it was bc he meant so much to DongHoon. That was what was killing him. That was why he was grieving his death after so many years and have their photo in his desk, no matter DongHoon was a 'traitor'. That was why he looked so horrified and guilty when he heard Jinwoo's screams at the other side of the door: not only he killed the person most important to him in the heat of the moment, but he made her daughter -the person he treasured the most- witness his death and destroy her life. That's also why he left so much money at the funeral that she could grab of of the many envelopes, and one alone was 5 million wons.
These two had such deep bond it destroyed them both. And the fact the mother is never mentioned by any character, not even in passing, makes me think there was more to it than "brotherly love". Never acted upon probably, but these two loved each other. And Mujin realized it probably when he lost DongHoon. And DongHoon probably realized it when he couldn't kill Mujin no matter how many chances he got.
And their relationship is a mirror and a paralel to Sujin and Pil-do.
In fact, I was ready to scream at the end of Light On Me when we see a pair of male shoes waiting for him, I thought it could be Lee Se Jin!! I hope he plays his boyfriend in Season 2.
Such an underrrated series!!! I've just finished it and I'm swearing under my breath "WTF WTF WTF WTFFFFF" Incredible. Literally MINDBLOWING. I need season 2 now!!!!! So many questions!!!!!!
I don’t get why the Netflix synopsis and MDL are so different, it’s like 2 completely different stories (thank god I looked it here)
Netflix synopsis: A charismatic conman and a group of aspiring movie directors get inside the lives of two women with profound emotional scars. But nothing is like it seems.
You can tell us too!! Isn't it you should not be playing with your friends!! I also think the game or house of…
I always thought that the way Arisu was using the reflection of a tank to try to see the head gear was a hint. One he didn’t noticed bc he was too scared and traumatized. But I thought that if everyone were in front of a reflective surface (the tanks) they would overload the system bc they would be looking at the wolf, so everyone would be wolf. Idk, maybe it wouldn’t work, maybe you’re right and the tools were the hint, but at the time that was what I thought.
I really wanted to like this show, it has Toptap, Mike, Pod and Khaotung! It should be at least funny and fluffy, or at least that’s what I told myself. But the misogyny and homophobia is so high and on your face that I can’t even enjoy the actors. Seriously, I find myself muttering “...omg that’s so fucked up...” You can tell an story of internalized homophobia (Ton) without making fun of it, otherwise you’re just reinforcing it. Also the misogyny? Wow, I didn’t think it could be worse.
Good acting in Circle. She looks like Park Shin Hye from some angles, I can't be the only one lol. And the way…
You’re not the only one lol I’m watching “My only love song” (im tired ok lol) and I can’t shake the feeling she’s somehow related to Park Shin Hye. The looks, the way she speaks, the hands, even the voice! But so far I didn’t find anything. But really, they’re so similar they look like sisters, or at least cousins.
The show is just telling who this people are and how this people ended up where we first saw them at the beginning…
I was thinking the same, that in order to fight what they hated, they became the very thing they despised. It’s like that saying: “The road to Hell is paved with good intentions”
You realize that everyone has their own reasons and backstory for being where they are. Maybe is for revenge, maybe is for protecting your family, it doesn’t matter if at the end you’re doing despicable things like kill people. Maybe Jerome has a reason for being where he is and exploding a plane was something collateral, a mean to an end. In the same way that for DG killing those rebels was a mean to an end and nothing personal. But probably some family member of any of those rebels doesn’t think that way.
So here you go. An endless circle of hate and selfishness.
But to be fair, I think I would enjoy a second season if that means to see more about Lily, his north korean mercenary (sorry, partner) and DG. And of course, I would like to see HR and DG realize they became what they hate the most and are no better that the people they’re after.
Technically this is a series (if you go to viki you can see 4 ep).
Lately, when a BLs with short episodes ends, they merge all episodes and make a "movie".
That's all ok and good, but I don't understand why they edited the pages so only one of them exists for this story, other series have both.
Now this appears not as a series and neither as a movie, but as a special. I was going crazy looking for it in the main actor's page.
Also, if confesing to White is something that Sean planed or at least thought about, I think the guy threw condoms and lube into his backpack just in case lol
One thing I really liked about this new unsaid rule of some bls of the past 2 years is that they broke the stereotypes of who is supposed to be top and bottom and how they should behave. Body mass/height, dominance and confidence (or lack of it) doesn't mean shit to sexual positions, so Sean could very much be the bottom one (in fact I can see him as a dominant bottom)
I like that they weren't specific with that with Sarawatine, Patpran and Seanwhite, implying that the mayority of real gay couples are very much verse.
(also I read not long ago that doctors -and gay doctors at that- discourage the notion you have to use enemas or invasive methods to clean yourself if you're going to have sex. It's ok to do it every once in a while if you want, but doing it constantly can fuck your intestinal flora. Just go to the bathroom 1 or 2 hours before, don't eat in a few hours and you good. Also: condoms)
Otherwise I have no idea.
Sometimes I think Gram likes Black but feel guilty for Eugene and that's why he tries to them be back together (that and bc he thinks that no way in hell Black would like him)
But then they show us those scenes of Gram staring at Eugene and, hey! It could be still as friends, but after making Namo being in love with Sean (I would swear just yesterday that were just friends and I was so happy with that) I don't know anything anymore.
I really hate when people say "you need to relax" bc usually it's used in gaslightning and mansplaining contexts, but this is not that situation.
@KoreanLover94 only said "Jheez" and "why this sound like a negative post", they weren't rude or disrespectful. You made a ironic comment, they didn't get it, that's it. You were snappy and sarcastic, some would say straight rude, implying they were moronic and stupid.
I just told you that language barriers are a thing, not everyone has english as first language, so maybe that's why they didn't get the sarcasm.
Just take a breath, relax a little and try to not pay it whatever is troubling you on strangers on the internet. And I say this without irony or sarcasm or whatever, you seem on edge.
@YodaD thank you, I always mess it up with some verb conjugations, specially the irregulars. Languages, so damn tricky sometimes.
Also, if these past years have teached us anything is that there's no limit to human stupidity. I'm barely surprised now when I see the news, I'm just tired.
The trailer looks like it has nothing to do with the summary…
Could someone tell me what is this about? Bc I haven’t seen a single pastry in the trailer and it seems it’s more about the Bakumatsu than anything else.
There's a lot of symbolism around the concept of 'beach'.
- She went first with her father, in open daylight, public place, summer probably and it's a lovely sight. (human - light)
- Later she used to met Choi Mujin at the sea too, but it was near an industrial site with warehouses, at night and there's no sand, only rocks. (monster - night)
- Then Pil-do took her to another beach. It was at night but it was a proper beach with sand (she was a monster -night- but he was showing her that she could still go back to be human, that she wasn't a monster completely with no return -a proper beach with sand and with a safe place to rest). There, she transitioned and 'came back' tentatively as human, or at least she tried to (they decided to punish Mujin in their terms, by the law of humans -sending him to prison-; not by Mujin terms, the law of monsters -killing him-.
(Another thing to consider is that Mujin wanted to give her a perfect life far away from monsters: a dream house by the beach. But he never got to give it to her. At the end the one who took her to a beach with a tiny but cozy house the first chance he got, was Pil-do. And he took her there at her lowest moments, putting his life at risk; not like Mujin who let go the idea the moment he felt betrayed and she wasn't useful anymore)
They woke up to a beach under the sun, and she took a walk by herself ("can I be a human by myself and not only when I'm near Pil-do?"), and she decided she liked it and was ok with the change.
Then when the arrest order came to Mujin, he became enraged. Bc she choose to punish him by the rules of cops, not by the rules of his world (outright killing him face to face). He took that as a tremendous disrespect, like she was moving on and he didn't matter so much anymore to her (or maybe her father's death didn't matter so much anymore to her. Or maybe that he wasn't so important as DongHoon's killer. There's a lot of complicated feelings there).
I don't think he knew what Pil-do meant to her, as you can see his surprised and guilty reaction whe she told him. But he could see Pil-do was loyal to her, or at least was trying to help her. Also killing him in front of the police building and in broad daylight by HIMSELF was both to put a target on her back and to try to enrage her ("if you don't kill me personally, I will kill anyone around you no matter the place or time").
Mujin wanted to die, wanted to be punished for the death of DongHoon, but he only would accept it if it was by Sujin's hands.
I don't like they killed Pil-do, but narratively it makes sense. That's why also they killed him with a shot to the head -there's no doubt of his death, so no miraculous recovery. It was also a kind of mercy, he didn't die bleeding out painfully or full of fear in torture. No, it was sudden and his last moment with her was a happy one, hoping for a better future together.
What I don't know is what she's gonna do now. They gave us a kind of open ending, I suppose in case they chose to make a second season, but enough wrapped out it would be ok if they don't.
Another detail I kind of liked it was the thrid urn with ashes in the mausoleum. I do think it was of Mujin. She recognized the bond they had. The show never talked about her mother and the narrative implied a lot of things. Like Jiwoo was more important to DongHoon (her father) that her mother (like when she asked if he would change anything if he could time travel and he didn't even mention her mother, only her -and a lot of complicated gazes)
Mujin himself acknowledged that DongHoon had multiples chances to kill him and he couldn't bring himself to do it. He doesn't say it like he thinks DongHoon is weak (no one who goes undercover into a criminal ring and became a second is weak), but he realised that it was bc he meant so much to DongHoon. That was what was killing him. That was why he was grieving his death after so many years and have their photo in his desk, no matter DongHoon was a 'traitor'. That was why he looked so horrified and guilty when he heard Jinwoo's screams at the other side of the door: not only he killed the person most important to him in the heat of the moment, but he made her daughter -the person he treasured the most- witness his death and destroy her life. That's also why he left so much money at the funeral that she could grab of of the many envelopes, and one alone was 5 million wons.
These two had such deep bond it destroyed them both. And the fact the mother is never mentioned by any character, not even in passing, makes me think there was more to it than "brotherly love". Never acted upon probably, but these two loved each other. And Mujin realized it probably when he lost DongHoon. And DongHoon probably realized it when he couldn't kill Mujin no matter how many chances he got.
And their relationship is a mirror and a paralel to Sujin and Pil-do.
There, I rest my case lol :)
(Originally it was a response to a comment but it became too long and this way maybe more people would be able to read it, who knows)
[MV] Park Won(박원) _ Fuxxxxx crazy
https://youtu.be/o-ML207l_Rg
In fact, I was ready to scream at the end of Light On Me when we see a pair of male shoes waiting for him, I thought it could be Lee Se Jin!! I hope he plays his boyfriend in Season 2.
I've just finished it and I'm swearing under my breath "WTF WTF WTF WTFFFFF"
Incredible. Literally MINDBLOWING. I need season 2 now!!!!!
So many questions!!!!!!
Netflix synopsis:
A charismatic conman and a group of aspiring movie directors get inside the lives of two women with profound emotional scars. But nothing is like it seems.
Like wtf netflix, I almost watched it.
Idk, maybe it wouldn’t work, maybe you’re right and the tools were the hint, but at the time that was what I thought.
Seriously, I find myself muttering “...omg that’s so fucked up...”
You can tell an story of internalized homophobia (Ton) without making fun of it, otherwise you’re just reinforcing it. Also the misogyny? Wow, I didn’t think it could be worse.
Bc in viki they’re airing a bts, not the spinoff with Lee Rang.
I’m watching “My only love song” (im tired ok lol) and I can’t shake the feeling she’s somehow related to Park Shin Hye. The looks, the way she speaks, the hands, even the voice! But so far I didn’t find anything. But really, they’re so similar they look like sisters, or at least cousins.
It’s like that saying: “The road to Hell is paved with good intentions”
You realize that everyone has their own reasons and backstory for being where they are. Maybe is for revenge, maybe is for protecting your family, it doesn’t matter if at the end you’re doing despicable things like kill people.
Maybe Jerome has a reason for being where he is and exploding a plane was something collateral, a mean to an end.
In the same way that for DG killing those rebels was a mean to an end and nothing personal. But probably some family member of any of those rebels doesn’t think that way.
So here you go. An endless circle of hate and selfishness.
But to be fair, I think I would enjoy a second season if that means to see more about Lily, his north korean mercenary (sorry, partner) and DG. And of course, I would like to see HR and DG realize they became what they hate the most and are no better that the people they’re after.