Flypsyde

I am about to watch this for the second time; first time was immediately after the last ep was posted and I binged it. I want to have it fresh in mind and heart before starting the sequel.

Rolls of paper towels at the ready for sobbing, cranberry iced tea and popcorn for refreshments, I'm all set to go. Hope it's as good as I remembering it being. I gave it a 9/10.

So why didn't he mention the alleged cheating to her at all? And how much sense does it make that he dumps his GF after deciding she is cheating based on a couple of pics he saw of her talking to some dude on the Internet while others gossiped about it? He didn't even bother to find out who he was or he would have known the guy is her cousin and not her BF! If he was supposed to seem to have really cared about her, the writing was super bad in that respect.

Don't even remember if I've seen Kinematics Theory yet, but this is my second watch of this film. I'm only half way through but taking a break and will finish it tomorrow if I feel like it. Sometimes the characters' behaviors in gay-themed flicks just make me...sad. Not mad, not disgusted, not indignant or self-righteous, just...sad. Nan is a damaged, hurtful narcissist, Zhe is a passive/aggressive codependent, Chao or whatever his name is, is another seemingly mendacious sociopath, and on and on...these guys just do whatever, fuck whomever, hurt whomever is there to be done, fucked or hurt in the moment and none of it seems to mean much of anything one way or the other.

Is there much lower you can go than to do what Nan did at the anniversary party, right in your partner's face, holding hands with the bitch while, bizarrely, looking oh-so-concerned for your partner's feelings when obviously you are incapable of any such thing? Humiliating him in front of all your mutual friends and acquaintances?

Nan's strangely beautiful with a killer bod, but really? Aren't there OTHER hot gay men who aren't maybe quite as blank inside? Why would anyone ever trust him again as a partner or in any other area of life? And later, really?, you're having bareback sex with this promiscuous pig? Self-destructive much? Maybe I've had too much therapy and it's taken the capacity for melodrama out of my life, but after watching nearly an hour of this I'm thinking that's a really good, good thing.

I guess I blanked it out from the first watch, because I don't remember where this is going. Maybe they will all be killed together in a fiery road-rage incident involving multiple combinations of fuck-buddies ramming each other's cars in pretend fits of jealous rage, I don't know. That would seem fitting, as I don't really see anyone here much worth shedding tears over.

Ick. This is the kind of film that makes me question my existence as a gay person. Everyone seems so over everything except fucking, and then only for a few minutes. If they get cheated on, they might weep a little, but then they turn around and do it to someone else, apparently having learned nothing but how to hurt others. I guess that's the point, but do we need two hours of this shit to teach that old lesson? That wounded, shitty people shit on other wounded, shitty people? I already knew that.

lol What a strange, hilarious, oddball little flick, but I kind of enjoyed it. A parody of BL I suppose, but still I found the two goofball hotties at its core to be compelling.

I ended up wondering if this movie was meant to be taken as a kind of farce/satire/comedic exaggeration of how some straight men PERCEIVE the attentions they may receive from gay men, rather than as a literal narrative of the main character's actual experiences. He went through a lot, but did you even start to wonder why he played along with these guys long past the point where a rational person would say "fuck, leave me the fuck alone or I'm calling the cops." Like the guy who couldn't keep his hands off him no matter where they went or were...surely that wasn't meant to be taken as the behavior of a real person; it was so over the top and silly and ridiculous. I began to wonder if the main character wasn't on some level enjoying the attentions and attempted seductions of these guys.

TWICE he drank himself shit-faced in the presence of a gay guy who he KNEW wanted to get him in the sack. Drunk to the point of incapacitation, leaving him wide-open for the kind of abuse that so predictably occurred. Why would someone who knew they had a low alcohol tolerance do that in a dicey situation, other than to open himself up to something he'd never let happen sober?

Weird/fun/well-acted/confusing/unclear/kind of bizarre/strange...many of the things I love in a film! I was hoping there would be more comments here to help me maybe get a handle on what this flick was really all about, but not so much I guess. The main actor was excellent, as were ALL the actors. I found the various sequences/scenes/scenarios well-directed/acted/amusing/interesting but it seemed like 2/3 of the way through things began to get repetitive to the point that I found myself growing impatient. Not at all sure what the writers/director were trying to say. I even wondered if the MC was imagining some of this bizarre shit. As homophobic as he claimed to be, he seemed to play along with these guys way past the point I would have put up with their supposedly unwanted attentions, and I'm gay. lol In other words, I began to wonder if he was enjoying the attention/getting off on being pursued and maybe didn't mind being forced to explore aspects of his sexuality he never would otherwise have dealt with.

I never really got an answer to that and then at the very end we get a voice-over wrap-up that seemed to contradict much of what we had just seen. Strange flick.

Without yet going back to confirm that is Tae Joon with a limp he meets at the beginning, when did TJ's leg injury take place? It does not occur in the rest of the flashback. He appears uninjured during all the messy stuff with Won Gyu during the flashback. ???

At some point during the watch it occurred to me that they are shipping other male/male couples without judgement, but as of yet are completely unaware that they love each other. That's something I think really does happen in real life.

About Bbomb's beauty, since that's all we're talking about below anyway: It is not only that he is handsome as hell, it's that the handsomeness is so INTERESTING. To me, his face is made up of individual parts that by themselves aren't so great, but you put them together and by some kind of magic it all works exquisitely to form this...fascinating sculpture. PLUS, he also has that "X-Factor" that is so hard to put into words. An aura, a presence of being, sensuality, charisma...that other equally attractive performers lack and are therefore less interesting and magnetic.

Some of the biggest movie stars around the world are not necessarily the most classically handsome or beautiful, but there's something about them that attracts both men and women and commands their attention.

Noh's got it. Jin, with that soft/pretty face, doesn't.

The shippers are fun! Remember, this isn't actually happening IRL. Relax! :D

End of Ep. 3:

So many extremely handsome young guys to drool over, if nothing else...wow.

The whole thing is kind of low-energy. There are numerous plot elements that seem random. Like Jin dumping what's-her-name in the first five minutes but then acting distraught as though HE had been dumped and then seeking out Bbomb and accusing him of stealing his GF? wtf? Ummm...Jin, you dumped HER.

Everyone was pretty much gay/gay friendly from the first five minutes so there's zero dramatic tension about any coming-out or worrying about the reaction of friends. I'm mean everyone is shipping everyone else already so it's just a matter of who ends up boffing who, right?

Unfortunately, to me, Jin and the actor portraying him are the weak link here. Low-energy as referenced above. He doesn't seem authentically athletic either. Bbomb on the other hand, is a Thai Greek God. :).

I'm shipping Singh and his buddy in a major way. As many have already commented, Keam seems to have a hankering for everyone, male or female, which is interesting.

After three eps the plot seems pretty much laid out and I can't imagine what we're going to be doing for nine more hours of this. I mean, come on, it's just a matter of time before Jin's legs are in the air with my Bbomb between them. But for some reason I don't dislike it enough to stop watching, at least at this point.

Well, there IS that one blowjob...

Wow. Stumbled across this completely by chance on someone's best BL/Gay shows here on MDL.

Easily one of the strangest, most original, wonderful, captivating films I have seen in my entire and very long life. Just excellent, off the charts awesome in my book. A very dark Steampunk fairy tale. Acting, direction, sets, visual effects, costumes, EVERYTHING is top-notch. Just wow.

9.5 from me. Highly recommended to those who like weird shit, well-done.

This is one of those movies where I end up not liking or sympathizing with ANY of the main characters because their own behaviors and choices, which result in multiple bad outcomes, are so repellent and stupid. And it's difficult for me to like a movie in which no one exhibits any redeeming qualities or seeks to change or has the ability to self-reflect. They all seem sort of pathetic.

BUT...for some reason I'm glad I watched this and wouldn't dissuade anyone else from seeing it. It is...interesting and on occasion fascinating.

I found it both annoying and interesting. So while it's far from the best thing I've seen I would tell people to give it a shot and see what they think. Not that you asked.

"tons of cultures have done..." polyamorous relationships? If that's what you mean of course that is true, but I suppose it depends on what one means by them "working." You don't think there were/are issues of jealousy and hatred among competing sets of multiple wives/husbands or among partners in ongoing polyamorous relationships? I'd say you're kidding yourself. BUT I made it pretty clear I was talking about MY OWN standards for a relationship, not society's.

As for why I said the three MCs in this flick are "crazy," well, one of them, a fully-grown man/child, runs around the neighborhood shooting pellets from a gun at random people even though he has already blinded one kid in the eye. After he shoots he hides and giggles to himself like a psychotic three-year old. That is pretty fucking sociopathic/ crazy regardless of how he got that way.

Then we have that crazy little shit's BF, who remains in relationship with this kid, even as he continues marauding the neighborhood putting lives at risk and even as the BF continues to be harrassed and threatened by the kid and his father who want more and more money in payment for what the psycho BF did to the eye. Remaining in a relationship with a self-evidently mentally-ill individual who refuses to change and is seeking no treatment is a good sign that you yourself have mental/emotional issues. Why is that the best he thinks he can do for a BF?

Then we have the third dude who came down from SK chasing the other army guy and continues to pursue him and pine for him long after he has been told multiple times to get lost. Plus the object of his affections treats him like dirt, is extremely rude to him, has sex with the gun-shooter with the door open to taunt him, and gives him the occasional blowjob apparently for no other reason than to string him along.

Yeah, i'm pretty confident in saying all three are mentally ill.

My spoiler post below got way longer than I intended. This movie grabbed me by the gut and it seems the more I wrote the more I wanted to say. So, to anyone who's interested, I spilled my guts in the post below.

Sorry, but I am not on board with what appears to be the message of this little film: That in cases such as Earth and Non's and Non's family, it is Frame's moral obligation to just let this "gray secret" be as it is. I've thought about this a lot and I call bullshit, especially in regard to the director's cheesy little lines of rationalization masquerading as philosophizing at the end of the film.

Once P'Non the pig tells his WIFE what is going on and she decides SHE is OK with it, then I'm OK with it. But until then Non and Earth are pulling off a huge con job and if I was Frame I would lose all respect for Earth and wouldn't be able to be close to him anymore. Earth is participating in a fundamentally humongous lie and he is entirely aware of it. He has decided to sell a part of his soul for the monthly rent and free meals out on the town. Maybe the sex is great too, I don't know. None of that matters. Earth and Non are living a lie, which is worse than telling a lie because this one goes on and on 24 hours a day, seven days a week indefinitely. How would I ever trust such a friend about anything else in his life? I wouldn't.

Of course this kind of thing goes on all the time, that doesn't make it OK. LOTS of horrible things happen everyday. That doesn't mean that when we see a horrible thing happening in our own frame of reference we don't try to prevent it or fix it. I'm thinking this out as I write, but it seems to me that Earth and Non have made Frame a part of their lie by expecting him to KEEP IT for them. Why is he obligated to do that any more than he is obligated to go to Non's house and tell the wife what's going on?

Wow, the more I think about this right now, the less sure I am of what I would do in Frame's situation. Honestly, I felt increasingly sick to my stomach as this film progressed. I can't imagine feeling that way every single day, as I think Frame does. He is truly in a bind here. I hope he finds someone he can really trust, someone with some perspective on life, someone he respects, to whom he can spill this sordid tale and seek advice on how to proceed.

As I said, if the wife agrees to this ongoing arrangement then fine, let them all do as they please. But until that happens it seems like I wouldn't be OK with carrying this knowledge around every day, and it pisses me off that Earth is perfectly fine with leaving Frame with that burden. Earth seems fine now with being a kept boy with a temporary sugar daddy as long as he gets the $$$, but that doesn't mean Frame is required to be a part of the sickness going on here too.

Maybe I'd try to find some way of allowing the wife to find out what's going on for herself, rather than just telling her directly. I don't think I could live with this. And I wouldn't worry about losing Earth as a friend because I wouldn't consider him one at this point anyway. Maybe I'd tell Non he has three days to tell her or I'll do it. God, I'm not sure! lol Non's liable to have me knocked off if I made that threat, so maybe not.

Anyway...Non's son knows now, so maybe it's a matter of time until it all blows up. That knowledge is going to be eating away at him too, especially every time he's home and watching his dad live that lie right in his mom's face.

There's also always the chance of Non bringing home a nice little venereal disease to his wife also. Do we really trust that Non won't be boffing any OTHER rent boys on the side along with Earth? Why should Earth continue to feel obligated to remain faithful to Non when Non is obviously fucking his wife on the nights he's not fucking Earth? So maybe Earth picks up HIV or something and gives it to Non and Non brings that gift home to the wife...or Non picks it up from someone else. The stakes here are huge.

8 out of 10 for me. This kind of an ending, which I've seen too many times, feels like a cop-out. A quick/cheap way of backing off on most everything that went before. I found it to be a good ride up until everyone ran into each other taking out the trash in the middle of the night.

It's fine that you are put off by explicit torture and sex, but if you are going to start fast-forwarding through scenes that may contain elements crucial to understanding the plot/story, why keep watching at all?

Also, I tried to watch "Human Centipede" and found it too revolting/disgusting even for my jaded soul. I am shocked you think this film is "worse." They are on two completely different levels of gore/violence/mayhem/sickness, plus the story behind the centipede concept is utterly ridiculous and stupid, as it would never work.