Kathryn_51

"The kiss scene was heated and emotional without being vulgar. " Well they got that right! Also brief clip of the pillow fight.

I love the fact that there is little sympathy for what Ms. Ma did to destroy NGJ and GoTop. I have sympathy (a little) - but if she had succeeded, GoTop would have failed, 100's (?) of employees may have lost their jobs and livelihood. Actions have consequences. Tearful females don't move me. In the end, GoJin might forgive (a virtue), but Ms. Ma caused a great deal of pain for a great many people and she is no saint.

""That's capitalism 101. every organization exists to make profits by competing to provide the best service/material to it's consumers."

Bravo mooc. BRAVO.

This is a show of South Korea. South Korean actors, producers, writers. I wonder how many folks who post here understand not just the concept of capitalism - but the wealth AND prosperity that capitalism has produced in South Korea. Contrast with North Korea. Nothing more to add.

Lots of fun clips - especially the "ring removal" scene.

Depends upon what country you are in. CL Available only in Disney+ Asia right now. There are other options. I'm not an expert - just a grateful recipient from folks here re sites such as DramaCool.

Well, to answer your question, the term "hack-neyed" plot device comes to mind. From Ep. 2 forward, BSY has been a one-note plot device and I acknowledge that she was an important plot device in the Noh Go-jin/Shin-ah story arc but indeed - she is a very tiresome character. Her value is a 4 on a scale of 10 - required, but not sympathetic. However, it was pleasure watching Ep 14 and confirming that she is indeed Daddy Baek's Little Girl.

Guidance would be appreciated.

Just re-watched a portion of Ep. 14 (I don't believe anyone has posted this yet) re: stalker room - woman w/white sleeves (obviously Na Soo-Yeon) ---- and the wrist scars were there. I was "re-winding" and "re-watching" (for reason unrelated to the scars) before I saw it. It's final confirmation of what many of us have speculated/theorized. We should be proud, Fellow MyDramaLister's. I've lurked in other venues today and folks are still theorizing that stalker is Se-hee (pffftt - many figured that was a non-starter in Ep 13) or one of the former secretaries (double pffftttt).

So, most mysteries solved except.. . . . . why is my mini-crush Secretary Jo the FOURTH villain? Writers better explain this with NO unresolved questions or I swear I will revise my Ten Star rating DOWN.

It's so nice to have a few people here on MDL that recognize Secretary Jo's many - but, alas, diminishing - virtues. We are now down to the way he looks in a leather jacket. I will treasure what I can while I grieve for what might have been.

I should not have been sipping my drink while reading your post! mopping up my desk right now. "toilet talk" - will be seared in my mind forever.

His name - apparently - is Cho Jung-ho. That's what NGJ calls him in Ep. 15 preview. And as Elif Kim said - he's one and the same as Secretary Jo (sob, my beloved Secretary Jo).

I joined MDL for the same reason several weeks ago when I was watching Crazy Love out-of-sequence episodes wherever I could find them on the internet - before they were removed. Finally found a good location (around Ep. 5 or 6) thanks to this board. And also loved reading comments/theories.

Perhaps the real question at this point (your theory is solid) is who - if anyone - has been manipulating her? Who has been providing info (appts/schedule/etc) so that she could stalk him? How did she know where to deliver the red rose/knife basket? I thought it was Se-gi but looking more like Secretary Jo is the big villain.

I have so many questions that I started to type them up in a word document so that I could keep track! I want them ALL answered by the writers or I'm going to change my rating. As for my adorable Secretary Jo/Cho (according to Ep 15 preview, his real name is Cho Jung-ho) I am going through the 5 stages of grief, lol. My, he did look good in that leather jacket today, didn't he??

"I expect him to apologise to everyone he has wronged, otherwise i will not be satisfied. "

You will be happy when you read the Ep 15 spoilers.

Oh my poor Secretary Jo. . . .

As one or two of the questions of the death threats that Gojin (Kim Jae-wook) has received have been answered, Gojin looks back on himself as he has been careless and ruthless to the people around him in the past. He sincerely apologizes to those who have hurt him and vows to protect the people of the high-tower education who have been thrown into crisis, and Shin-a (Jeong-jeong-jung) lovingly cheers for such a high-altitude struggle. Finally, Gojin is confronted with the true culprit of all the events...

KBS "Spoilers"/description of Ep. 15 below and I am so damned proud of myself for figuring out how to translate this on my own (but owe thanks for bloomingtide and others for explaining how to do it).

We saw her face in Episodes 11 and 13. The name of the actress has appeared in several episodes on the cast list, but until a couple of days ago, her name wasn't identified on the internet as far as I know. I believe today was the 1st episode where her name was revealed to the viewing audience.

Totally agree - it's been a great ride until today the writers. . . .tossed in a curve ball from left field today. Oh, and when you watch at the 42 minute mark, perhaps you can translate the posters and name of school.

So many questions to ponder w/you cattaurus.

The anonymous letter was just 3 months ago - but Se-gi has been plotting for years, I thought? Maybe that was mis-direction by the writers when he was talking at her memorial site - "the long wait was over"; he was going to make NGJ pay for what he did. I mean, he relied on an anonymous letter and all of a sudden decided to ruin NGJ just 3 months ago?

What happened to the billions (that was a shocker) that he siphoned out of GoTop? As some of us have speculated, Se-gi and Kang-min may have been gambling colleagues and perhaps Se-gi owed $$ to SJo as well??? Why was Se-gi at the vacation home at the same time as SJo?

The YouTube theory was that SJo and Sehee were lovers, but I didn't think so because of big age difference. Your theory that "Sehee" was ensnared in a gambling trap is more iikely.

And the mega-celebrity gambling ring WAS broken up right around the time SJo and BSY arrived in town but . . .so what?

I think in the end, the justification for whatever SJo is doing w/r/t NGJ is going to be very lame.