Kathryn_51

The dramacool link I use is: https://www1.dramacool.fo/drama-detail/crazy-love. Someone on this site (perhaps Sher1264) recommended a specific link and thankfully I bookmarked the exact address because every time I try to link to "dramacool" through my browser search, it comes up with streaming full of ads. This link always worked very well - one pop-up ad every hour. However, last week when the show was released, other people commented that they either couldn't access it (at the release time) or that they were experiencing significant buffering. I couldn't even access so I waited for an hour and then everything worked well. By then, however, everyone on MDL in Asia had gone to bed I think 😢

Earlier today, I bit the bullet and purchased a VPN, but I keep getting an error message. Just tried Disney+Malaysia - could get into the site, but couldn't find anything regarding TV shows/Crazy Love. couldn't find a "search" tab. Will continue trying though! If you have a specific link, then perhaps that would work for me.

Thankfully the VPN has a 30 day full refund if I can't get it to work.

Did he "bully" them? Or have extraordinarily high expectations of perfection and a extremely low tolerance for mistakes? There were only two research assistants who publicly (in the press conference) claimed that NGJ had bullied them - later, many employees went on TV and claimed that he wasn't guilty of bullying and in fact and was kind-hearted (thanks to Shin-ah, of course).

I'm almost tempted to get VPN finally so that I can watch CL when it is first released. I have Disney+ (USA). Does CL (English sub) get released at the same time as broadcast on KBS. Or, an hour later? I have used Dramacool for several weeks, but last week (Tuesday) it crashed and burned because too many folks getting on - it was several hours before I could watch. I'm just wondering if it worth the effort for last two episodes

Thanks - I have enjoyed reading your theories and thoughts (along with many other folks here at MDL) the past few weeks. In fact it was one of your posts - that someone copied and pasted on Reddit Crazy Love - that brought me to MDL a few weeks ago. I am going to miss Crazy Love when it is over but will look forward to when it comes to US so I can binge watch with family on our TV (instead of my PC). I haven't smiled and laughed this much in a very long time - even during re-watches. Hubby will ask "what so funny" and I say - you just have to watch in order to understand. Gems like this don't come along that often - so glad I discovered the show and MDL because of you. ❤

Haha, when I said "Dad", I meant Lee Shin-ah's father. I will be disappointed if he is not in the last episode together with brother, and her roommate. GoTop friends would be icing on the cake to see everyone happy and secure.

Was there a date on the email? I tried to find one, but couldn't see anything with English numbers.

Calm down gurih-gurih envoy - It's only a theory and in less than 48 hours, it may be blown apart, lol. 😎

I do think that with the promos with bloody wedding dress, etc. that the viewer has earned the right to see an actual wedding! I want the family there as well, especially Dad.

At the very beginning of Ep 2, Chief Ma says that GoTop was formed in 2016 after taking over Jungsin Master Education. Not putting spoiler tag on this one. It took me days to locate that snippet.

We have never been told when Se-gi received the anonymous letter. But he wondered if Kang Min did it and that only makes sense if the letter came in after Kang Min was fired. I'm convinced the birthday cake scene was sincere - and Se-gi received the letter a couple of days later.

I read somewhere that wedding scenes are problematic because of high cost involved. So, I'm keeping my hopes low and expecting a beautiful engagement scene and few months later NGJ and LSA hanging that lovely photo on the wall of their home.

I believe that Papa Beck is the final/top villain.

December 2021: Oh Segi begins to embezzle “billions of Won”. Why? My guess: Gambling Debt.

Mid-February 2022: (1) International “Celebrity” Gambling Ring under Investigation; (2) BSY returns to South Korea. Also mid-February but perhaps not relevant: Stalker Lady begins her countdown on the calendars and an anonymous email sent to all employees.
Things are set in motion.

Dr. Cho – the loan shark – has large sums of cash courtesy of Papa Baek. They charge usurious interest rates. Once the gambling syndicates are under investigation, a large source of under the table/tax free income is gone. [I admit – there is nothing to date that would indicate Papa Baek is involved in funding illegal gambling loans. But it fits this theory]. Papa Baek assigns Cho to BSY and orders him to implement a plan for taking over GoTop.

Kang Min, a gambling addict, is friends with Se-gi; Se-gi makes a special request asking NGJ to reconsider the firing. A desperate Kang Min is encouraged by “Dr. Cho” to “bump into” NGJ w/promise of big reward and Dr. Cho is in Gangneung to witness the hit. Se-gi receives anonymous message blaming NGJ for his sister’s death; he goes to Gangneung to confront NGJ but finds him injured and walks away. When Se-gi returns from the States he discovers NGJ has amnesia and he begins to plot revenge to crush NGJ.

Se-gi knows SJo from gambling (but does not know of connection to Se-Hee).
Secretary Jo and Se-gi meet occasionally. As part of Se-gi’s campaign to destabilize GoTop, Baek Edu is encouraged to recruit Gong Heecheol. BSY knew the EXACT arguments to use to recruit Gong – courtesy of Se-gi (via SJo). SJo told Se-gi when BSY was leaving office so that Se-gi could gently bump into her car. Se-gi provided LSA’s personnel file to SJo to hand to BSY. When Se-gi walked out of the justice center (Ep. 14) he recognized SJo immediately – even though they had never been face-to-face before on the show. See also Ep 14 scene in BSY’s office – they KNOW each other.

SJo’s backstory appears to be: was known as Chief Cho at Jungsin Master Education. Oh Se-hee and NGJ also worked there (big “M” on posters where Oh Se-hee walked the hall and in office). Se-hee was caught making photos of tests for reasons unknown (bribe? Blackmail? Gambling debt?). She may have been married (her father thought Se-gi was Se-hee’s husband). She committed suicide on April 15, 2015; she was 25 years old at the time. The phone recording was also dated April 15, 2015. [Side note: Although NGJ has said, at least once, something like “you will never work in this industry again”, I don’t believe he has ever said: “I will not forgive you”. He knows that the conversation never took place with him and Se-hee]. Did SJo push Se-hee off the roof? Don’t think so – it wouldn’t add anything to the plot at this point, but one way or another, SJo’s involvement will become known.

BSY and SJo have known each other for a long time – she trusts him and he protects her. He uses honorifics with her at all times. He might be the illegitimate Baek son (therefor half-brother), but I get an upstairs/downstairs vibe. He has not opposed or sabotaged her efforts to reunite with NGJ.

Stalker Girl is unrelated to GoTop takeover, unless she has been manipulated to de-stabilize NGJ and keep him from recognizing the real danger to GoTop. But that’s pretty lame and spoilers for Ep 15 say “As questions about Gojin's death threats be resolved one by one”.

Secretary Jo’s job was to de-stabilize GoTop so that Gunil Group could take it over. Kang Min’s fury at NGL was an opportunity to take care of it easily, but Secretary Jo doesn’t care if NGJ is alive or dead (yes, still holding out hope that he’s not a murderer, lol]. BSY’s plan to take over GoTop and bringing Se-gi on board is not part of Papa Baek’s plan and things are starting to unravel for him since he was somehow involved in Se-gi’s sister death.

Papa Baek has been overseas for two months but he will reappear at the end of Ep. 15 or beginning of Ep. 16.

That’s my story. I just can’t visualize a 16 episode story arc resolution based on SJo’s love for BSY, SJo’s jealousy of NGJ’s high IQ, SJo’s revenge plot for losing his job at Jungsin Master Education – if any are true, then lame ending and I take at least one star off my rating.

Here is my “theory” because at least 80% fits what we have seen thus far. If I am wrong or way off, that’s okay. Sifting through the clues, re-watching when I am able, reading other posters’ thoughts and writing this down has been cathartic as I worked through my 5 stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and finally acceptance that Secretary Jo is not a very nice person.
I welcome any comments, thoughts, facts that challenge my theory – that’s how investigations are properly managed – look at facts that do NOT support a narrative in order to resolve them.

Thanks - I guess the English comparison would be "Manager" or "Direcctor" in a corporation.

The sequence starts with Chief Ma talking about how GoTop was formed in 2016 by taking over Jungsin Master Education.(I assume it was the first day of the two-year internship),; next scene (at .54 seconds) was a different instructor talking about a Mountain something-or-other and that is where
I see a woman in a white sweater and long black hair. I think the woman looks like Na Soo Yeon. On the other hand, LSA called her Ms. Na Sooyeong but someone on this board said the Korean words were "Instructor Na Sooyeong". So good chance I'm just seeing things.

Ah yes, the "trolls". I learned long ago to ignore them, but went through some painful experiences before I wised up.

Very special - glad they included the pillow fight.

LOL - I posted something yesterday on this - what happened to that person? It was the start of the whole "who wants to kill NGJ" narrative used to promote the show and . . . . . .what happened? Pretty sure the event occurred in mid-February 2022 (a couple of weeks before NGJ birthday) - I won't be happy if writers don't explain what happened - was it a joke? security? was the person stopped or change their mind? I want to know.

Very thoughtful post Elif Kim. Since CL isn't available in the US yet, and I have told family that we are going to binge watch it when it does come here, I realized that they will miss 50% of the fun. Such as the scene where NGJ is quoting LSA from several episodes prior - will a binge watcher even catch on to why this was so hilarious?

I have come to the conclusion that viewers who comment on message boards fall into 3 categories: (1) those that love to debate characters - their flaws, their mistakes, justifying or criticizing their actions - as if they are real people (40%); (2) those that analyze kisses and skinship (romance factor)(40%); and (3) those that analyze the story/narrative - scripting, continuity, pacing, clues, details. (20%). I'm in the 20% category.

Good question; I'm not sure we will ever know unless they need a witness as to what really happened that night. NGJ and SJo are about the same height, so don't think it's him. BTW, according to the show character list, SJo is 39 years old (played by an actor that is only 33 or 34)and NGJ is 35 (played by an actor that is 39).