it`s vote list. EVERY user can added 10 dramas what they not recommend, and users even added c-dramas. So it's…
Yes, GRRTT adding those dramas was a little silly and certainly unnecessary. I'd already got, and agreed with, the point ... though I have to admit a sneaking admiration for the dedication it must have taken to do it!
Vulpineki didn't actually say he (it is 'he', according to his profile) disliked all the dramas he originally listed, though probably in most cases at least he does, just that he wouldn't recommend them. (As a pedant, I have to point out to myself he didn't actually say that either. It is though, I feel, a reasonable deduction as he included them on the list.}
Should he have given reasons for their inclusion? Personally, I don't think so. Others can add to the list but can't add their reasons for doing so, at least not directly next to the show they've added. That's like asking people to vote in an election where only some of the candidates can publish their manifesto. Either everyone does, or no-one does.
Again personally, if a show I was thinking of watching was on this list, I'd go to that show's page and look at the comments there, to help me decide whether to watch it after all ... maybe. In reality, while polls like this and comments on a show fascinate me, they rarely influence my viewing decision. I'm guided primarily by the genre, the cast, the plot, etc., not by whether others have hyped or panned it.
In the end these are all just opinions, and opinions are neither right nor wrong ... though sometimes, when they are contrary to my own, they can be ill-informed ... but then, that's just my opinion. :-)
it`s vote list. EVERY user can added 10 dramas what they not recommend, and users even added c-dramas. So it's…
Er ... how does this list degrade other people's opinions? It doesn't even dispute them. The title of this poll asks about dramas you wouldn't RECOMMEND. Sure, the OP's reasons voters might want to add to the list are also reasons for disliking a drama, but not exclusively. Personally, I think LOL situations can be excellent when used effectively. 'Vincenzo' is peppered with them, and it adds hugely to making the show so enjoyable overall. It's perfectly possible to love a show to bits but hate whenever one particular character is featured, or the way one particular actor plays their role (happens for me frequently). And even if this poll was "Shows I've Watched and Disliked", it would be just as valid. For every show a dozen people love, there will be someone who thinks it's awful ... and vice versa. No-one is "right", it's their opinion ... which everyone is entitled to have.
Through some sort of unfortunate oversight or technical glitch (maybe even a misguided conspiracy) Jin-Goo is NOT number one on the voting list "Prettiest Ever Smile...". I'm sure you'll want to help correct this terrible injustice by visiting it and voting. :-)
... I'd link the poll title, but I can't work out how. :-(
The OP has titles in this list that are also in a list their list “Favorite Kdramas”
Er ... I think voters can / were able to add to the original list. Just because something is on here now, it doesn't necessarily mean it was added originally by the OP. Also, it's not "Dramas I Dislike", it's "Dramas I wouldn't Recommend". I really, really like 'A Chorus Line' but I'd never recommend it to anyone I know, because admitting I love it would no doubt seriously damage my image. :-)
Well, this is why you don't 10/10 every single drama you watch, because then other people will watch it and see…
Totally agree, though it can be hard to be objective when you've just watched something you really loved and honestly compare it with something you watched ages ago, rated highly then, and you still feel it deserving of that rating. Personally, I never give 10/10. (LOL, I should check my own lists ... suspect I actually have!*) That's saying you believe something is perfect. Not one single line or word, not one camera angle, not one moment in an actor's delivery, could have been improved upon somehow to make the show even better. IMO the best TV show ever made, standing head and shoulders above any competition, was 'The West Wing', and I'd only give that 9.999999/10. :-)
*Edit: Just checked. I'd rated two things 10/10:
- Vincenzo ... fantastic show in every way, but now downgraded to 9.5 because I'm sure small improvements could have been made
- Tae Guk Gi: The Brotherhood of War ... er ... yeah ... stand by that. I've gone all teary just writing the name!
Let's be honest ... I came to this film purely because Yeo Jin Goo was in it. I'd just seen 'The Long Way Home' and wanted to see more of him. Who wouldn't? What with that film being so funny, and him being so gorgeous, it kinda didn't register how well he did in that. So then I came to this. Wow! He really can act, can't he? And not just him. The rest of the cast were excellent too. I'm a little annoyed that this film will likely live in my head for ages. I want to forget it, so I can rewatch it afresh as soon as possible!
I think it's kinda unfair that excellent shows like "Arthdal Chronicles" and "Kingdom" have their vote split because of how they're presented on MDL. "Arthdal..." especially. It's just ONE show. Er ... otherwise why would people be talking about the upcoming Season Two???
One of the things I was starting to love about Korean dramas was that, good or bad, I could binge watch a show then move on to the next. Then along came the commercialism of Netflix (and others, too, I guess are jumping on the bandwagon). Most 'cliffhangers' seem to be add-ons just because they realised a show had become popular. 'Squid Game' is an excellent example: The story is wrapped up ... absolutely no need for a season 2 ... then in the last couple of minutes, "Hey, let's add some footage at the end to keep this alive".
The only exceptions for me are 'Arthdal Chronicles' (A 'never ending story' as far as I'm concerned. So long as they maintain the quality, if they keep making, I'll keep watching) and 'Alchemy of Souls'. (Season 1 really felt like it was laying the groundwork for so much more to come!)
wow! I didn't realize people could do this in the SIMs but I guess it makes sense since modding is a thing. Fascinating!!
Yup. Loads of Kpop idols, and when a Kdrama gets popular, the cast soon appear as SIMs too. Many are "so-so", but some are excellent ... so accurate! Some dedicated fans/creators must spend ages finding exactly the right custom hair and clothing. I've seen a few where you'd swear it was a photo!
The fact that they removed the BL aspect of the story is enough to say that this movie is homophobic trash. There's…
Response to your second paragraph first: Yes, I did. Then I realised that I had and deleted that bit after chiding myself for doing so (before you'd posted your reply). Apologies to you, and to anyone else trying to follow this. (BLBoy was responding to something I wrote having latched on to just part of something he'd written.) You're right. The world is, and always has been, a hetronormative one (but not, universally and always, homophobic).
No, I don't want to make this about straight people. I want to make it about "The Night Beyond the Tricornered Window". My point was, and is, that the plot has nothing to do with BL. Maybe the manga did. This didn't. There was, for example, no suggestion that the two lead men's combined power only worked because they were lovers. Had there been, and the makers had therefore cast a male / female lead to avoid portraying it, now THAT would have smacked of homophobia.
In order to fit the story into the time available, no doubt a lot had to go or be very sparsely covered at best. Personally, I would far rather any additional scenes were used to better explain and expand on the basic plot rather than what would here be a sub-plot about BL.
And in this particular case if BL was intrinsic to the manga, and was originally a main thread of the plot, don't blame the makers for taking it out but rather the person who sold them the film rights and allowed them to do so.
The fact that they removed the BL aspect of the story is enough to say that this movie is homophobic trash. There's…
I understand what you're saying, but your justification doesn't change the fact that they were discriminated against simply because they were str8, not for any reason to do with them personally. This was quite a while ago, and I'm sure far less likely to happen now, but your ascertion that "There has never been any case where a straight person is discriminated against for being straight" is incorrect and can so easily be disproved, I was surprised you made it. Don't get me wrong. I love your passion and commitment and long may it continue. I just think that in this particular case you're using up energy pushing against a door that is already unlocked and opening slowly (though not as fast as we'd like, admittedly). Let's all line up to boo Russian ambassadors instead! :-)
The fact that they removed the BL aspect of the story is enough to say that this movie is homophobic trash. There's…
So when my friends were denied access to a club I took them to simply because they were str8, that wasn't "discrimination against heterosexual people"?
Vulpineki didn't actually say he (it is 'he', according to his profile) disliked all the dramas he originally listed, though probably in most cases at least he does, just that he wouldn't recommend them. (As a pedant, I have to point out to myself he didn't actually say that either. It is though, I feel, a reasonable deduction as he included them on the list.}
Should he have given reasons for their inclusion? Personally, I don't think so. Others can add to the list but can't add their reasons for doing so, at least not directly next to the show they've added. That's like asking people to vote in an election where only some of the candidates can publish their manifesto. Either everyone does, or no-one does.
Again personally, if a show I was thinking of watching was on this list, I'd go to that show's page and look at the comments there, to help me decide whether to watch it after all ... maybe. In reality, while polls like this and comments on a show fascinate me, they rarely influence my viewing decision. I'm guided primarily by the genre, the cast, the plot, etc., not by whether others have hyped or panned it.
In the end these are all just opinions, and opinions are neither right nor wrong ... though sometimes, when they are contrary to my own, they can be ill-informed ... but then, that's just my opinion. :-)
... I'd link the poll title, but I can't work out how. :-(
*Edit: Just checked. I'd rated two things 10/10:
- Vincenzo ... fantastic show in every way, but now downgraded to 9.5 because I'm sure small improvements could have been made
- Tae Guk Gi: The Brotherhood of War ... er ... yeah ... stand by that. I've gone all teary just writing the name!
The only exceptions for me are 'Arthdal Chronicles' (A 'never ending story' as far as I'm concerned. So long as they maintain the quality, if they keep making, I'll keep watching) and 'Alchemy of Souls'. (Season 1 really felt like it was laying the groundwork for so much more to come!)
EDIT: And for the record, if it WAS a blow against gay representation I would care. I just think you're wrong that it is.
No, I don't want to make this about straight people. I want to make it about "The Night Beyond the Tricornered Window". My point was, and is, that the plot has nothing to do with BL. Maybe the manga did. This didn't. There was, for example, no suggestion that the two lead men's combined power only worked because they were lovers. Had there been, and the makers had therefore cast a male / female lead to avoid portraying it, now THAT would have smacked of homophobia.
In order to fit the story into the time available, no doubt a lot had to go or be very sparsely covered at best. Personally, I would far rather any additional scenes were used to better explain and expand on the basic plot rather than what would here be a sub-plot about BL.
And in this particular case if BL was intrinsic to the manga, and was originally a main thread of the plot, don't blame the makers for taking it out but rather the person who sold them the film rights and allowed them to do so.