If I may borrow @InspectorMegre 's comment: "the script where dad's first priority is to beat up anyone he meets instead of asking them first where his daughter is and/or skipping all the fights and going straight to his daughter. Like beating up ppl has priority over finding his daughter. "
When I read that, an idea for a very different story arc came to mind. Specifically, the story focused on Agent Kim's pent-up frustration at having to hide his true nature in order to raise his daughter. He goes from someone who is a feared assassin to someone who is so docile as to become the proverbial door mat.
It would be a very different story. However, as a psychological thriller, it would be interesting. Could/would the daughter be the one to stop him?
People who bash a series just for using AI and saying that actors will lose jobs, even though there were CGIs…
"As long as a show is less than 10% AI, no actors will lose their jobs. Stuntmen will still have jobs and might be safer for them in the long run as well."
Interesting perspective. Who will control the 10% limit? Will it be government legislation? Would it better if the limit is 20%?
I am okay if AI is used instead of CGI. However, if it used to "create" characters in a scene or a whole series/movie, then I would have to draw a line.
I had to chuckle at the "imagine chilling at home with your family or going around the world or enjoying your hobbies while AI and robots work all the jobs" phrase. Not certain if you have seen it, but the humans in the Pixar movie, WALL-E, came to mind. :-)
"If they started doing AI for every scene, it will be noticeable, people would stop watching, and they will eventually give up and return to using humans."
With today's AI, you might be right. However, given the pace with which the AI models are improving, it might not be so noticeable in 3 or 4 years. And if the employment of real actors has been dramatically cut back, how quickly will they return? And, more importantly, why would they?
That would only happen if the actor is successful and well-known. If AI is increasingly used to create "extras" and secondary characters, how many successful, top actors will be around?
And take your example, in 20 years, when the real So Ji-sub is 68 and "chilling" at home, will season 20 of Agent Kim Reactivated feature the AI created 48-year-old version?
Step back from the specific show and consider the implications.
The news article says that, in the clip, close-up shots of So Ji-sub's face was AI generated. - How long before none of the actors in a movie are real? - Will we then be watching very fancy cartoons? - Who owns the legal rights to the face (of a real person) in a series/movie if it is AI generated?
"I guess with popularity comes hate, it’s normal. they’re prolly mad a pretty plastic face is not winning…
I realise this will be too far down for most people to bother reading, but I have to respond.
First, I wrote South Korea; I did not say South Koreans, as I am fully aware that plastic surgery tourism is a big thing.
Second, if you scroll down to the 4th paragraph of the piece you will come across this: "South Korea is the country with the highest per-person percentage of plastic surgeries in the world. In South Korea, it is estimated that the rate of plastic surgery is approximately 1 in 25, with women being the largest demographic getting plastic surgery. South Korea is followed by Argentina and Brazil."
Third, having watched quite a few Chinese dramas, I am aware of the "surgically enhanced faces".
Go watch the kmovie Man from Nowhere if you really love the premise in this. Frankly, it's a lot more raw and…
I agree that Man from Nowhere has a very similar premise and story line. In fact, after the first two episodes of this series, I re-watched the film because of the similarity.
Another film with a similar premise is Hitman: Agent Jun. However, it is much lighter in tone and definitely does not "take itself seriously". Personally, I love the part where his wife "takes on" the bad guy's henchmen".
Highest Rated kdrama of the year plus highest rated kdrama in the past 5 years and that just after 2 episodes…
"I guess with popularity comes hate, it’s normal. they’re prolly mad a pretty plastic face is not winning this year."
I sincerely hope that you appreciate the exquisite irony of commenting about popularity resulting in hate, and then exhibiting your own version of hate/contempt towards people who apparently like pretty plastic faces.
He kills terrorists where the terrorists are, and that genocide thing is a lie.
Under Article II the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (ratified by the UN General Assembly in 1948), genocide is defined as: any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: -- Killing members of the group; -- Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; -- Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; -- Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; -- Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
What has happened in Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem , along with Southern Lebanon, fits the above definition. It is most definitely not a lie.
How did it crawled from 7.8 to 8.6 ? I will wait until all episodes are released to binge watch.
There is a post by iiyuan (about 10 hours ago) that explains how this has happened. Interestingly, I cannot see Oppa_and_chingu's response when signed in, because they have blocked me. I presume that I will be classed as one of the "haters". The only problem is that I do not rate any shows on here, including this one.
I think that you will find it better to wait until all episodes have been released and you can binge it.
guys does this have anything to do with Israel I saw a tt about this but I haven’t watched it but I don’t…
Simple answer is that it has nothing to do with Israel or Palestine.
The problem/issue is that the part of the background for Park Jin Cheol is that he was involved in 3 airstrikes against Palestine. There is confusion/dispute on whether he prevented or took part (translation failure). This backstory is in the original webtoon (published in 2021) and was transferred to the series.
After the first 2 episodes, a fellow member (Travellerr0) posted that they were very upset with the inclusion of this fact, especially as it was a throw-away part of the backstory of a secondary character. Travellerr0 is Palestinian and has lost family and friends over the past years. I supported them in this position, as did others. Indeed, I consider what is happening in Gaza as ethnic cleansing and war crimes; therefore, it has no part in an entertainment show, no matter how small a part.
Subsequently, those of us who objected to this reference have been subjected to denigrating commentary and attacks. Personally, I have been called "obsessed" and a "stalker", and told to get a life.
Bottom line, if you like a fast moving, rather violent programme, then this is good. Just remember that not everyone can enjoy it in the same way.
sub error, the palestine translation was wrong , he prevented 2 airstrikes in palestine was the correct translation!!
Just to clarify, Oppa _and_chingu is not taking things personally; they are making things personal.
For the record, the profile was create on July 2. It is not the only one that was created after the first two episodes were aired, and the concern over the reference to Palestine (and Pakistan) was raised by other people.
"the script where dad's first priority is to beat up anyone he meets instead of asking them first where his daughter is and/or skipping all the fights and going straight to his daughter. Like beating up ppl has priority over finding his daughter. "
When I read that, an idea for a very different story arc came to mind. Specifically, the story focused on Agent Kim's pent-up frustration at having to hide his true nature in order to raise his daughter. He goes from someone who is a feared assassin to someone who is so docile as to become the proverbial door mat.
It would be a very different story. However, as a psychological thriller, it would be interesting. Could/would the daughter be the one to stop him?
Interesting perspective. Who will control the 10% limit? Will it be government legislation? Would it better if the limit is 20%?
I am okay if AI is used instead of CGI. However, if it used to "create" characters in a scene or a whole series/movie, then I would have to draw a line.
With today's AI, you might be right. However, given the pace with which the AI models are improving, it might not be so noticeable in 3 or 4 years. And if the employment of real actors has been dramatically cut back, how quickly will they return? And, more importantly, why would they?
And take your example, in 20 years, when the real So Ji-sub is 68 and "chilling" at home, will season 20 of Agent Kim Reactivated feature the AI created 48-year-old version?
The news article says that, in the clip, close-up shots of So Ji-sub's face was AI generated.
- How long before none of the actors in a movie are real?
- Will we then be watching very fancy cartoons?
- Who owns the legal rights to the face (of a real person) in a series/movie if it is AI generated?
First, I wrote South Korea; I did not say South Koreans, as I am fully aware that plastic surgery tourism is a big thing.
Second, if you scroll down to the 4th paragraph of the piece you will come across this:
"South Korea is the country with the highest per-person percentage of plastic surgeries in the world. In South Korea, it is estimated that the rate of plastic surgery is approximately 1 in 25, with women being the largest demographic getting plastic surgery. South Korea is followed by Argentina and Brazil."
Third, having watched quite a few Chinese dramas, I am aware of the "surgically enhanced faces".
Another film with a similar premise is Hitman: Agent Jun. However, it is much lighter in tone and definitely does not "take itself seriously". Personally, I love the part where his wife "takes on" the bad guy's henchmen".
I sincerely hope that you appreciate the exquisite irony of commenting about popularity resulting in hate, and then exhibiting your own version of hate/contempt towards people who apparently like pretty plastic faces.
Genocide (ratified by the UN General Assembly in 1948), genocide is defined as:
any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
-- Killing members of the group;
-- Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
-- Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
-- Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
-- Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
What has happened in Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem , along with Southern Lebanon, fits the above definition. It is most definitely not a lie.
I think that you will find it better to wait until all episodes have been released and you can binge it.
The problem/issue is that the part of the background for Park Jin Cheol is that he was involved in 3 airstrikes against Palestine. There is confusion/dispute on whether he prevented or took part (translation failure). This backstory is in the original webtoon (published in 2021) and was transferred to the series.
After the first 2 episodes, a fellow member (Travellerr0) posted that they were very upset with the inclusion of this fact, especially as it was a throw-away part of the backstory of a secondary character. Travellerr0 is Palestinian and has lost family and friends over the past years. I supported them in this position, as did others. Indeed, I consider what is happening in Gaza as ethnic cleansing and war crimes; therefore, it has no part in an entertainment show, no matter how small a part.
Subsequently, those of us who objected to this reference have been subjected to denigrating commentary and attacks. Personally, I have been called
"obsessed" and a "stalker", and told to get a life.
Bottom line, if you like a fast moving, rather violent programme, then this is good. Just remember that not everyone can enjoy it in the same way.
For the record, the profile was create on July 2. It is not the only one that was created after the first two episodes were aired, and the concern over the reference to Palestine (and Pakistan) was raised by other people.
However, we can, and must, state that both the October 7th events and the Israeli retaliation were and are abhorrent and barbaric.
And, I already have a life, thank you very much.