This really was just eyecandy / some sort of ad for clothes. Story is underdeveloped, random and goes nowhere. It's forgettable mess with no direction.
At this point we need a tag for dramas that don't fall apart in last 1/3 because they are so rare.
Like basically almost every drama start out strong with some good premise and setups storylines but almost no drama knows what to do with them. It's like when I am with friends and we start spitballing some ideas and slowly creating something but never fully develop it and conclude it.
It's like these drama start shooting with someone having some idea on how to start and open up all these possibilities and at same time thinking they will somehow know how to finish them later when the end comes but they never do.
They need to polish and preproduce dramas more or they will always fall apart in last 1/3 or get most development rushed into last episode leaving things feel slow and rushed at same time. Considering this is not financially encouraged thing won't really change and we can only hope decent stuff from passion project combined with good talent and the rest is just filler we tolerate.
Did FL casually just forget sml tried to poison her bf and almost killed his step brother in previous ep? Episode 17 she normally and happily interacts with him it makes no sense, wtf is going on ?
Interesting. I've never seen a drama with a rating of 8.7 or above on MDL I didn't like. I guess that just means…
So basically what we learned from this is that score is completely pointless because of petty wars, bots, idol worshipers, antifans and most users are teenage girls who have no idea what they talk about.
What surprises me tho that someone who can give well constructed review can't reflect that with the reasonable score that matches. If person like that can't consider giving something less then 10 then I can't expect average mdl user to not think in 1 and 10s.
Interesting. I've never seen a drama with a rating of 8.7 or above on MDL I didn't like. I guess that just means…
Again you focused on one pointless thing, ignored everything else and even misunderstood that one thing I talked about that you focused on.
- I never said my opinion changed after reading reviews - I said I found first two episodes entertaining, I also find some trashy reality show entertaining sometimes for guilty pleasure and I don't think that is automatically 10/10 masterpiece just because I enjoyed it - I watched 1st two episodes when show was live then put it on hold because I pref watching when all episodes are out - I recently returned and looked into show if I should spend my time finishing this - I gave it a go purely because of favourable scores to see what sort of special masterpiece we got here only to get same old average flawed kdrama - it's was ok, chill, mostly enjoyable yet very flawed and nothing mind blowing - then I wrote my comment on mdl and here we are - also stop twisting my words - I am not a girl - stop asuming and laying it down as facts
The original point of this discussion was huge disconnect between review and mdl score and you yet again focus on 1 of my personal inserts that are not even important but at same time you butcher what I said and make assumptions..
All I asked was for open minded discussion about some issues but u keep focusing on same wrong stuff and misunderstanding me.
I understand people are not professional reviewers but I was hoping more would be open to idea of rating something lower and considering flaws even if they enjoyed it a lot or because their idol is in it doesn't have to be 10. I know this is pointless to say because it won't change and I just have to set realistic expectations and simply ignore scores or like have in mind that it loses a lot of weight with big name actors and romcoms. This kdrama is one of the most extreme examples of flawed scoring system.
Interesting. I've never seen a drama with a rating of 8.7 or above on MDL I didn't like. I guess that just means…
This discussion became pointless and waste of time. No one is gonna change their mind and you are more focused on me believing this deserved low score and being super defensive instead of looking at this from broader perspective. I did not even rate this drama, review it or fully watched it. All I saw were 2 episodes when it came out and they were fine for what it was. I was just returning to it to see if I should continue so I was reading reviews, watched some more and agreed with flaws and this show mediocrity even tho it was entertaining.
There is either language barrier here or u just chose to selectively pick to ignore specific things because u keep bringing up stupid stuff and generalising and downplaying without being open minded to actually discuss something or open to entertain some ideas and challenge them.
Based on what you just wrote I feel like I wasted my time and you completely ignored the core of what I was saying and going further will just be pointless because you chose to focus on petty subjective assumptions about me.
You failed to understand that this was not about being right or wrong, or about 1 specific drama u love and wanna defend, but overall discussion about systems and it's usefulness. Ultimately neither of us would be right or wrong because we were throwing out ideas that we didnt provide strong enough base yet. I just hoped you would be open to see that system can be flawed, that u can enjoy drama yet still criticise it and not see it as perfect 10, that scores are highly abnormal and very disjointed compared to reviews and such obsesive behavior is more common with kdramas/cdramas. Surely big disconnect between reviews, comments and overall score is not normal in this case and I am confused why you act like it is. When do shows on mdl have such bipolar results between overall such absurdly high score and overall mediocre highly approved multiple reviews. But what I got back was just the usual fan girl that ultimately confirmed my bias as to why the score is the way it is. Another flawless 10/10 discussion because giving it anything else means I hated it, but it was entertaining even tho it got disappointing end.
Interesting. I've never seen a drama with a rating of 8.7 or above on MDL I didn't like. I guess that just means…
I am saying every platform with rating system can be easily manipulated. Difference is with cult like fan following like it exsist in kdrama we get even more inconsistent scores then with other media.
People going throught the effort of voting kdrama on imdb and other sites are mostly biased extremists on either side and clueless airheads.
Basically the reason why rating in kdrama are worse then in other media is because votes are more bipolar and heavily biased on actors cult following.
People fail to understand that u can enjoy the media while still see its flaws and criticise it. U can love and like something because it's ur personal bias yet still think it's like a 6 or 7..
MDL is still the best site for kdrama reviews and discussion. Problem is that scores that used to be somewhat better then other sites now became as unusable as other sites is what I am saying.
Interesting. I've never seen a drama with a rating of 8.7 or above on MDL I didn't like. I guess that just means…
Yeah imdb have same issues as mdl because kdramas have small amount of ratings. Only way you get bad score there if u pissed of some groups of people and they review bomb it.
Interesting. I've never seen a drama with a rating of 8.7 or above on MDL I didn't like. I guess that just means…
Well tbh I started looking though multiple reviews because you can then form some sort of idea how the show actually is. People who make an effort to write proper reviews help a lot. I am ofc ignoring fanboi 10s and random haters. You can also check people profile and see if its some new random account.
Reviews on mdl are also further filtered and voted by more dedicated fans by how useful they are and you can see how mdl users in general agree with the reviews. On this show highly agreeable reviews are mostly reviews rating this show mediocre.
Now me saying mdl rating is bs and easy to manipulate is definitely way more believable then some conspiracy about voting. Mdl votes have small sample size so you can easily manipulate scores. Another thing about mdl rating is is the fact that nothing is stopping crazy dedicated fans to make ton of accounts or bots to inflate the rating. There is no barrier of entry. You can create ton of accounts and just spam boost scores with day 1 accounts. Reviews atleast take effort to write and u can see if it's not some new account or like ton of botted copy paste low effort.
This is also mixed with usual people who rate every romcom or drama they finished a 10 aswell as idol worshipers who straight up give it 10 no matter what just for their idol being in there.
So yeah I am definitely looking into comments and reviews because mdl score seem useless. Now I am not saying this show is unwatchable but it is mediocre with many flaws that does not reflect a 9 imo.
Like I have never watched a movie that is like a 9 or maybe around 8.5 on imdb and thought to myself that it is mediocre. Now I did think it was not for me but it's good for the genre or I did not enjoy it asmuch because it wasn't my taste but did see and appreciate what they were doing but I sure can't say the same for many of these dramas rated high on mdl.
On this site just adding actor with huge fanbase boost mediocre drama score by +2 and up
Interesting. I've never seen a drama with a rating of 8.7 or above on MDL I didn't like. I guess that just means…
This drama general score has complete disconnect compared to most reviews and it's approval on the reviews.
Ain't no way there isn't some sort of manipulation going on there that is inflating the score.
When something is rated that highly it's expected that in general most will like it in some way even if it's not their genre. Score like that usually transcends genres and personal biases unless person is completly close minded.
Now I am pretty much open to all genres apart for huge dislike for triangles that I am still sometimes ok with if it's well done or other parts are that great. This is a very flawed show that will be enjoyed by people who like this sort of thing they are going for but it's not 9.1 show that transcends genres and is near perfect with no major flaws that could be enjoyed by almost everyone.
Expectations set with this score make it seem like it's gonna be something special yet in reality it's average at best and even offputing by some.
Like basically almost every drama start out strong with some good premise and setups storylines but almost no drama knows what to do with them. It's like when I am with friends and we start spitballing some ideas and slowly creating something but never fully develop it and conclude it.
It's like these drama start shooting with someone having some idea on how to start and open up all these possibilities and at same time thinking they will somehow know how to finish them later when the end comes but they never do.
They need to polish and preproduce dramas more or they will always fall apart in last 1/3 or get most development rushed into last episode leaving things feel slow and rushed at same time. Considering this is not financially encouraged thing won't really change and we can only hope decent stuff from passion project combined with good talent and the rest is just filler we tolerate.
If you are looking for logic or any sort of consistency in this drama then u will be very disappointed.
What surprises me tho that someone who can give well constructed review can't reflect that with the reasonable score that matches. If person like that can't consider giving something less then 10 then I can't expect average mdl user to not think in 1 and 10s.
Thanks for the explanation on what went down.
- I never said my opinion changed after reading reviews
- I said I found first two episodes entertaining, I also find some trashy reality show entertaining sometimes for guilty pleasure and I don't think that is automatically 10/10 masterpiece just because I enjoyed it
- I watched 1st two episodes when show was live then put it on hold because I pref watching when all episodes are out
- I recently returned and looked into show if I should spend my time finishing this
- I gave it a go purely because of favourable scores to see what sort of special masterpiece we got here only to get same old average flawed kdrama
- it's was ok, chill, mostly enjoyable yet very flawed and nothing mind blowing
- then I wrote my comment on mdl and here we are
- also stop twisting my words
- I am not a girl
- stop asuming and laying it down as facts
The original point of this discussion was huge disconnect between review and mdl score and you yet again focus on 1 of my personal inserts that are not even important but at same time you butcher what I said and make assumptions..
All I asked was for open minded discussion about some issues but u keep focusing on same wrong stuff and misunderstanding me.
I understand people are not professional reviewers but I was hoping more would be open to idea of rating something lower and considering flaws even if they enjoyed it a lot or because their idol is in it doesn't have to be 10. I know this is pointless to say because it won't change and I just have to set realistic expectations and simply ignore scores or like have in mind that it loses a lot of weight with big name actors and romcoms. This kdrama is one of the most extreme examples of flawed scoring system.
Let's just say agree to disagree and end this.
There is either language barrier here or u just chose to selectively pick to ignore specific things because u keep bringing up stupid stuff and generalising and downplaying without being open minded to actually discuss something or open to entertain some ideas and challenge them.
Based on what you just wrote I feel like I wasted my time and you completely ignored the core of what I was saying and going further will just be pointless because you chose to focus on petty subjective assumptions about me.
You failed to understand that this was not about being right or wrong, or about 1 specific drama u love and wanna defend, but overall discussion about systems and it's usefulness. Ultimately neither of us would be right or wrong because we were throwing out ideas that we didnt provide strong enough base yet. I just hoped you would be open to see that system can be flawed, that u can enjoy drama yet still criticise it and not see it as perfect 10, that scores are highly abnormal and very disjointed compared to reviews and such obsesive behavior is more common with kdramas/cdramas. Surely big disconnect between reviews, comments and overall score is not normal in this case and I am confused why you act like it is. When do shows on mdl have such bipolar results between overall such absurdly high score and overall mediocre highly approved multiple reviews. But what I got back was just the usual fan girl that ultimately confirmed my bias as to why the score is the way it is. Another flawless 10/10 discussion because giving it anything else means I hated it, but it was entertaining even tho it got disappointing end.
People going throught the effort of voting kdrama on imdb and other sites are mostly biased extremists on either side and clueless airheads.
Basically the reason why rating in kdrama are worse then in other media is because votes are more bipolar and heavily biased on actors cult following.
People fail to understand that u can enjoy the media while still see its flaws and criticise it. U can love and like something because it's ur personal bias yet still think it's like a 6 or 7..
MDL is still the best site for kdrama reviews and discussion. Problem is that scores that used to be somewhat better then other sites now became as unusable as other sites is what I am saying.
Reviews on mdl are also further filtered and voted by more dedicated fans by how useful they are and you can see how mdl users in general agree with the reviews. On this show highly agreeable reviews are mostly reviews rating this show mediocre.
Now me saying mdl rating is bs and easy to manipulate is definitely way more believable then some conspiracy about voting. Mdl votes have small sample size so you can easily manipulate scores. Another thing about mdl rating is is the fact that nothing is stopping crazy dedicated fans to make ton of accounts or bots to inflate the rating. There is no barrier of entry. You can create ton of accounts and just spam boost scores with day 1 accounts. Reviews atleast take effort to write and u can see if it's not some new account or like ton of botted copy paste low effort.
This is also mixed with usual people who rate every romcom or drama they finished a 10 aswell as idol worshipers who straight up give it 10 no matter what just for their idol being in there.
So yeah I am definitely looking into comments and reviews because mdl score seem useless. Now I am not saying this show is unwatchable but it is mediocre with many flaws that does not reflect a 9 imo.
Like I have never watched a movie that is like a 9 or maybe around 8.5 on imdb and thought to myself that it is mediocre. Now I did think it was not for me but it's good for the genre or I did not enjoy it asmuch because it wasn't my taste but did see and appreciate what they were doing but I sure can't say the same for many of these dramas rated high on mdl.
On this site just adding actor with huge fanbase boost mediocre drama score by +2 and up
Ain't no way there isn't some sort of manipulation going on there that is inflating the score.
When something is rated that highly it's expected that in general most will like it in some way even if it's not their genre. Score like that usually transcends genres and personal biases unless person is completly close minded.
Now I am pretty much open to all genres apart for huge dislike for triangles that I am still sometimes ok with if it's well done or other parts are that great. This is a very flawed show that will be enjoyed by people who like this sort of thing they are going for but it's not 9.1 show that transcends genres and is near perfect with no major flaws that could be enjoyed by almost everyone.
Expectations set with this score make it seem like it's gonna be something special yet in reality it's average at best and even offputing by some.
When I say they interact weird I ment they act like teenagers and not estranged married couple.