Okay so since I saw the high ratings and how many people seem to praise this drama in the comments, I decided to watch it to see if they are right and guess what? It was trash like seriously what the hell?!
First issue: it's filled with all types of toxic ass tropes that came out/were popular during the 2000s. 1- The overly naïve, weak. helpless, crybaby, irresponsible, indecisive, FL with no braincells and likes to make stupid decisions that lead everyone around her to get hurt and be pissed off, that allows the male leads to control, abuse, sexually harass, bully, and be overall misogynistic as fuck to her, and the bitch just stand there looking either dazed, or scared letting them do and say whatever they want. In this FL's case, she so annoying I don't even feel bad for her at this point like seriously... She never speaks to clear misunderstandings, just hide them to add more fuel to the fire and make herself seem like the one who is doing wrong things then when people hate her for it, she runs away to cry alone like a brat.
2- Creepy, abusive, overly violent, rude, piece of shit ML who of course has mommy/daddy issues to use an excuse for being a total scum. As soon as he realizes FL is into someone else he goes and decide to kiss her forcibly and create problems between her and her actual love interest in the start. He bully her a lot first then only shows interest after she is into another guy then he decides that he owns her, he knows she is gonna be his step sister yet doesn't care, makes her miserable and cry all the time, put her in dangerous situations, and yet expect her to fall hard for him (Which what happens sadly) instead of attacking him with a baseball bat.
He is supposed to be the tsundere, cold, cool, rarely kind and good deep inside type, but he didn't grow on me at all. Maybe because I despise Tsundere characters, though some of them can be cute and very loveable like few cases in anime (Kyo from fruits Basket, Misaki from Maid-sama, Kagura from Gintama, Erza from Fairy Tail. Inuyasha from Inuyasha, and Yun from Akatsuki no Yona are very good examples). ML in this drama isn't the good type.
3- Some incest elements, like why are people obsessed with this step siblings...etc disgusting bullshit?!
4- Second ML who clearly is a better option, yet FL rejects him and go for the toxic freak after playing well with his feelings.
5- Annoying as hell parents.
6- Nosy ass friends who seem to suffer to keep their mouth shut exposing the leads secretes, and love to include themselves in everything related to ML and FL's love life. To be fair the FL's friends are way more likeable than her and one of them is actually useful at times, scolding the FL which she deserves. The friend falling for the second ML was kinda odd at start, but then I actually liked it cause at least he is better than ML, and she is better than FL, besides she waited till FL rejected him before flirting with him and before she tried to help them become a couple so I actually support them.
7- Second FL who is an absolute unlikeable gross bitch, with very criminal like behavior and extreme obsession with ML. Of course they give her a sad past which is supposed to make watchers sympathy with her, but seriously she deserves getting bullied for being a bitch, she doesn't deserve pity or help at all! Then make another guy be obsessed with her (And why?) nothing about her is likeable in first place! He is such a simp that he allows her to make him do stupid criminal shit as well.
8- Very boring and typical plot that gets dragged to the point where it's exhausting.
9- Love triangles and crap. Also why did that Ahrang dude exist? He is basically a literal psychopath who stalks and chases after FL and even threaten and tries to get his ass killed to force her to date him and is like "I never had any girl reject me, so even if I have to attempt suicide I will make you love me!" lmao really! Do people really find these fucked up guys attractive and charming?!
10- this one isn't a big deal, but the part where the ML decided to play guitar in a concert and wears some sort of mask that covers his eyes only and all of a sudden no one in his college seem to know who he is, including FL who only figures out it's him from the scarf he was wearing around his wrist, which he took from her earlier. This is actually a thing that became popular from super heroes shows and it never fails to irk me lol
Second issue: Overacting, it felt as if I was watching an awful live action drama, inspired by some old shoujo manga, and everyone tried so hard to act like anime characters which never works in real life. Every single one of them does it to make it more horrifying. 1- FL tries so freaking hard to seem cute and childlike by pouting, over smiling, and making ugly confused or sulking expressions half of the time. Like the actress is kinda cute look-wise, she doesn't need to be that forcibly childish to be cute. It ruins everything. They are supposed to be in college, whole ass adults, so why make her act like a 4 years old?! Only perverted weirdos will find that shit cute lmao
2- ML does everything in such a hardcore way it's not even funny, he runs, walks, and fight like it's the end of the world. Don't get me started on his smirk thing that is supposed to be sexy I guess? But it makes him look like a maniac that enjoys stabbing others or something. He is really hot though and his odd hairstyle actually fit him, but obviously he looks way better with his hair down.
3- The parents...these two are a walking cancer. The mom acts like someone punched her so hard, she kinda lost it. The father is either acting like a total middle aged creep that love assaulting teen girls like what he does to the FL (Like when he is talking to her and suddenly grabs her arms by both his hands so aggressively while saying weird shit like "Now I have a cute daughter! I will take care of you!" blah blah, and looks crazy while she makes a very startled expression to make it even more disturbing), or he acts like a retard in a very irritating way.
Other issues: I don't get why they rushed the relationship between ML and FL, I expected them to take at least 10 episodes before officially becoming a couple, to give more time for FL and second ML to interact properly, but I blinked and the main leads were into each other already even though FL was so into the second ML for kinda long time (Which shows she didn't truly like him, cause if she did, ain't no way in hell she would fall for ML that quick and forget second ML instantly).
Good things: Most cast are very good looking and the fashion/hairstyles were not bad considering the time the drama was made. Their looks kinda reminded me of many shoujo animes that also came out in late 90s - early 2000s. Sadly this is the only good thing I have about the drama...lmao
Honestly only 10-13 years old millennial kids who were raised during the times these shows were made can enjoy this shit, I was very young back then and I'm 24 years old currently so there is no way I can find this kids-teens focused crap good. Even back when I was a kid, I didn't really enjoy most of the overly cliché romance stuff. (Obviously other cliché garbage came out during our gen Z era like Twillight...etc which I also hated, so no offense to older generations, and some old things were very great even better than newer ones, I know well, but most people would prefer things that came out during their time since they feel attached to them).
A Goryeo one (I think that's how that dynasty is called?) with him wearing a nice Chinese inspired Korean traditional…
Well in the second part of The Witch movie he did appear with like almost shoulder length hair, and he looked stunning, I kinda disliked the movie itself and he barely had screen time (About 2 minutes or so like seriously...), yet kept watching only for his sake lmao
Well, you should try and finish it since only 4 episodes left for you, and two are still not aired yet so you don't need to force yourself to binge watch all of them in one day. But I do get why you felt that way. I myself ain't pleased with how this drama is going lately, but since I hate dropping a drama when only few episodes are left, I will keep going, who knows maybe the ending will be a bit satisfying after all this mess.
Lol it is indeed a Kdrama.I feel like the plot is quite decent. I feel like the acting is not carrying the plot…
More like the characters writing is the issue honestly lol some are overly smart and op overall, some are dumb as hell, some keep changing every 2 seconds and their existence end up becoming disappointing in the end like seriously...
Can someone tell me how the hell did Miho get the Leukemia thing? It's not an illness that can be gotten from others like the flu, right? So how the hell did she get it that easily? Or they just trying to make the plot overly dramatic and emotional in the two last episodes by making her get ill and maybe die and making PCH be devastated? Like seriously why they be slowly ruining the plot?!
To be honest I don't really care if she dies, I never even liked her in the first place and I did kinda expected her to die or get very hurt due to her doing stupid, reckless, shit all the time, but I think her going through this illness thing is pointless and odd, like even the villains couldn't murder her and she just get sick?! Just like how they killed the wife of that psycho doctor after she finally left him, then just forgot all about it and her husband is barley mentioned as well...like why?
The plot is kinda going downhill all of a sudden, since they revealed big mouse to be the room leader, then he died in that stupid way, and decided PCH, the total stranger should be the new Big Mouse instead of all the others in the organization, and I started losing my interest, they now be making PCH smarter and stronger in a very unbelievable way like an anime protagonist, and everyone else dumb and weak as hell except Mayor Choi of course. Like now we know PCH was just a normal shit lawyer, normal innocent dude, how the hell is he able to come up with plans you would expect some mafia boss or something of the sort to come up with?! Like even the actual criminals aren't as smart as him, I know he went through a lot, but still...
And that geezer's death was also lack luster, they showed him to be all powerful and shit, but he dies easily in no time, then they say he has a psychopath son out of the blue and now Miho is dying, what's going on?! Lmao
Did they suddenly realize that this is a Kdrama and since Kdramas must have tons of dramatic nonsense in it, they now be adding as much bullshit as they can? The part where everyone were in prison and no one (both watchers and characters) could figure out who Big Mouse is and had to come with tons of theories was the peak of this drama honestly, that was when the plot shined.
I think overall Kdramas writers come up with very interesting concepts and ideas, but suffer to execute them properly, they do have the imagination, but almost zero skills to back up the creativity. Many dramas got very great plots, they can start in a very powerful way, but from the middle everything start going downhill and they lose their spark completely by the end. Other issue is adding too much drama, pointless sudden cringe romance that overpower the main focus of the plot be it action or or whatever other genre, misunderstandings and immature behavior (Especially when it's from adult characters), very unrealistic moments and outcomes...etc
They also add tons of annoying non well developed characters who ruin the watching experience, change the characters behavior totally for no reason, or nerf the actually good characters, and sometimes the drama personality as a whole switches, like from being a very dark thriller/all about psychology and mystery (almost borderline horror every now and then), it become your typical crime action drama with all clichés you would expect to see in plots revolved around police/detectives for example, or turning from comedy romance to angsty painful crap. I don't know why many of these shows feel as if they were written by kids who are still total rookies at writing at times.
Maybe he wanted to be strong and invincible enough before doing it so no one can easily accuse him of it? I guess that's the only logical reason, to make sure he can live a perfect powerful life after getting his revenge.
part 1 has its flaws too like a big build up until the most interesting part... like 1H30 mins before it only…
Well, although first part wasn't perfect (Which is why I didn't give it a 10/10 rating) I admit, but I really enjoyed it. I didn't care about the siblings crap honestly and knew they were gonna die any moment. They just existed to make the girl be a little more humane blah blah.
Still hate the action scenes, fighting isn't only about being flashy, tons of explosions, and stuff flying around. If I want to see such extreme fight scenes I would go watch anime or Marvel movies. Yeah I know it's not a realistic plot since it has people with super powers and all, but they could make it a little more classy, not rely too much on special affects.
I really hate it when they cast very popular actors/actresses just to make them show for like 2 minutes all for the sake of making sure their fans would bother watching the movie, like some ad, all for the fame and promotion (Which shows how much they know their movie is ass to rely on such methods lol). I kinda find it insulting for both said actors/actresses and their fans honestly. Especially when they are quite talented and Lee Jong Suk isn't a rookie actor after all, so either give them actual roles or never cast them to begin with. The fans will be all hyped to see their fav actors appear then they just waste hours for only one minute of screen time.
Well, glad the English part didn't bother you, but it made me cringe to death lmao
I was looking for this comment... I just finished episode 6 and I don't even know what to say anymore.Until then,…
Well, the drama gets much better afterwards so I'm glad I didn't drop it due to that episode, but I still hate it when they do that shit in the plot making everyone become childish and immature even though they are adults and adults doing a very serious job that others lives and future depend on. To make it worse it's females mostly who become that type of non reasonable crazy character with extreme mood swings and irresponsible behavior.
-Agree with the ML shit i was gonna let it slide if atleast it was 1 trope of the guy being annoying to her and…
Nope, they portrayed Africa is a very offensive and retarded way. But yeah I get you don't wanna bother talking about it since it doesn't concern you personally since I guess you're not fellow African and it's fine to not bother, I think it's better that way.
Also glad that you agree with the parts related to the ML and the work environment. These parts were truly bothering me. Yeah the ML whole character was so boring, annoying, and overdone I also couldn't help but roll my eyes over it.
Maybe it was problematic but there is no politcal correctness or snowflake culture in either japan or korea, so…
You don't get me, the fact that they keep saying Africa is what bother me, at least they could mention the name of the country. Same as someone saying that all Asians are nerds, all Arabians are terrorists, all Americans are gun crazy psychos, or all Latinos are dirty minded (That generalization is what irks me and is basically a type of racism and stereotyping at this point). Saying Africa makes it seem as if whole Africa looks like that, especially with them going all the way to show these scenes. There is a difference between saying this exact country is poor and filthy and this whole continent is poor and filthy. I don't care that they don't intend it or whatever, in this day and age and with the help of web and technology that allow us to learn about and understand everything, such things shouldn't happen, them using the "being ignorant, not meaning to, or not knowing that much" excuse like with Kpop CA scandals is stupid.
I suggest you to watch LJS in VIP (movie)/ Big Mouth (drama). Let's see if your opinion still stays the same :)
Ikr! They be trying hard to collect more reasons and evidence to hate on said actors, just to prove themselves right, piss off others, and feel superior. Like what the hell made them that petty in the first place?! What a sad way to live your life Lmao
Maybe it was problematic but there is no politcal correctness or snowflake culture in either japan or korea, so…
Reason it's bothering me is cause I'm African myself and I have been living in Africa since I was born, so I know some countries in Africa are actually pretty nice and developed. Yeah my own country isn't great, but it's not nearly as bad as the places they show in these dramas, nor the Kongo you talked about. You know till this day, some people ask me online if we live around lions and giraffes lmao I'm 24 years old and till this day I never had the honor of seeing a lion nor went to a jungle. So this is what am talking about, when they shows such things in media they make most people believe that all Africans still live as savage tribes in huts in the jungles whiteout electricity, water, food or proper clothes, hunting wild animals to survive meanwhile we live in cities, buildings, and have most stuff anyone should have in this day and age from food to technology.
Oh, it's cool. Honestly the only reason I decided to watch it is cause of the funny title. I think they did it on purpose as some sort of word play, but the drama is indeed shitty honestly. At least to me it is.
First issue: it's filled with all types of toxic ass tropes that came out/were popular during the 2000s.
1- The overly naïve, weak. helpless, crybaby, irresponsible, indecisive, FL with no braincells and likes to make stupid decisions that lead everyone around her to get hurt and be pissed off, that allows the male leads to control, abuse, sexually harass, bully, and be overall misogynistic as fuck to her, and the bitch just stand there looking either dazed, or scared letting them do and say whatever they want. In this FL's case, she so annoying I don't even feel bad for her at this point like seriously...
She never speaks to clear misunderstandings, just hide them to add more fuel to the fire and make herself seem like the one who is doing wrong things then when people hate her for it, she runs away to cry alone like a brat.
2- Creepy, abusive, overly violent, rude, piece of shit ML who of course has mommy/daddy issues to use an excuse for being a total scum. As soon as he realizes FL is into someone else he goes and decide to kiss her forcibly and create problems between her and her actual love interest in the start. He bully her a lot first then only shows interest after she is into another guy then he decides that he owns her, he knows she is gonna be his step sister yet doesn't care, makes her miserable and cry all the time, put her in dangerous situations, and yet expect her to fall hard for him (Which what happens sadly) instead of attacking him with a baseball bat.
He is supposed to be the tsundere, cold, cool, rarely kind and good deep inside type, but he didn't grow on me at all. Maybe because I despise Tsundere characters, though some of them can be cute and very loveable like few cases in anime (Kyo from fruits Basket, Misaki from Maid-sama, Kagura from Gintama, Erza from Fairy Tail. Inuyasha from Inuyasha, and Yun from Akatsuki no Yona are very good examples). ML in this drama isn't the good type.
3- Some incest elements, like why are people obsessed with this step siblings...etc disgusting bullshit?!
4- Second ML who clearly is a better option, yet FL rejects him and go for the toxic freak after playing well with his feelings.
5- Annoying as hell parents.
6- Nosy ass friends who seem to suffer to keep their mouth shut exposing the leads secretes, and love to include themselves in everything related to ML and FL's love life. To be fair the FL's friends are way more likeable than her and one of them is actually useful at times, scolding the FL which she deserves.
The friend falling for the second ML was kinda odd at start, but then I actually liked it cause at least he is better than ML, and she is better than FL, besides she waited till FL rejected him before flirting with him and before she tried to help them become a couple so I actually support them.
7- Second FL who is an absolute unlikeable gross bitch, with very criminal like behavior and extreme obsession with ML. Of course they give her a sad past which is supposed to make watchers sympathy with her, but seriously she deserves getting bullied for being a bitch, she doesn't deserve pity or help at all! Then make another guy be obsessed with her (And why?) nothing about her is likeable in first place! He is such a simp that he allows her to make him do stupid criminal shit as well.
8- Very boring and typical plot that gets dragged to the point where it's exhausting.
9- Love triangles and crap. Also why did that Ahrang dude exist? He is basically a literal psychopath who stalks and chases after FL and even threaten and tries to get his ass killed to force her to date him and is like "I never had any girl reject me, so even if I have to attempt suicide I will make you love me!" lmao really! Do people really find these fucked up guys attractive and charming?!
10- this one isn't a big deal, but the part where the ML decided to play guitar in a concert and wears some sort of mask that covers his eyes only and all of a sudden no one in his college seem to know who he is, including FL who only figures out it's him from the scarf he was wearing around his wrist, which he took from her earlier. This is actually a thing that became popular from super heroes shows and it never fails to irk me lol
Second issue:
Overacting, it felt as if I was watching an awful live action drama, inspired by some old shoujo manga, and everyone tried so hard to act like anime characters which never works in real life. Every single one of them does it to make it more horrifying.
1- FL tries so freaking hard to seem cute and childlike by pouting, over smiling, and making ugly confused or sulking expressions half of the time. Like the actress is kinda cute look-wise, she doesn't need to be that forcibly childish to be cute. It ruins everything. They are supposed to be in college, whole ass adults, so why make her act like a 4 years old?! Only perverted weirdos will find that shit cute lmao
2- ML does everything in such a hardcore way it's not even funny, he runs, walks, and fight like it's the end of the world. Don't get me started on his smirk thing that is supposed to be sexy I guess? But it makes him look like a maniac that enjoys stabbing others or something. He is really hot though and his odd hairstyle actually fit him, but obviously he looks way better with his hair down.
3- The parents...these two are a walking cancer. The mom acts like someone punched her so hard, she kinda lost it. The father is either acting like a total middle aged creep that love assaulting teen girls like what he does to the FL (Like when he is talking to her and suddenly grabs her arms by both his hands so aggressively while saying weird shit like "Now I have a cute daughter! I will take care of you!" blah blah, and looks crazy while she makes a very startled expression to make it even more disturbing), or he acts like a retard in a very irritating way.
Other issues:
I don't get why they rushed the relationship between ML and FL, I expected them to take at least 10 episodes before officially becoming a couple, to give more time for FL and second ML to interact properly, but I blinked and the main leads were into each other already even though FL was so into the second ML for kinda long time (Which shows she didn't truly like him, cause if she did, ain't no way in hell she would fall for ML that quick and forget second ML instantly).
Good things:
Most cast are very good looking and the fashion/hairstyles were not bad considering the time the drama was made. Their looks kinda reminded me of many shoujo animes that also came out in late 90s - early 2000s. Sadly this is the only good thing I have about the drama...lmao
Honestly only 10-13 years old millennial kids who were raised during the times these shows were made can enjoy this shit, I was very young back then and I'm 24 years old currently so there is no way I can find this kids-teens focused crap good. Even back when I was a kid, I didn't really enjoy most of the overly cliché romance stuff. (Obviously other cliché garbage came out during our gen Z era like Twillight...etc which I also hated, so no offense to older generations, and some old things were very great even better than newer ones, I know well, but most people would prefer things that came out during their time since they feel attached to them).
To be honest I don't really care if she dies, I never even liked her in the first place and I did kinda expected her to die or get very hurt due to her doing stupid, reckless, shit all the time, but I think her going through this illness thing is pointless and odd, like even the villains couldn't murder her and she just get sick?! Just like how they killed the wife of that psycho doctor after she finally left him, then just forgot all about it and her husband is barley mentioned as well...like why?
The plot is kinda going downhill all of a sudden, since they revealed big mouse to be the room leader, then he died in that stupid way, and decided PCH, the total stranger should be the new Big Mouse instead of all the others in the organization, and I started losing my interest, they now be making PCH smarter and stronger in a very unbelievable way like an anime protagonist, and everyone else dumb and weak as hell except Mayor Choi of course.
Like now we know PCH was just a normal shit lawyer, normal innocent dude, how the hell is he able to come up with plans you would expect some mafia boss or something of the sort to come up with?! Like even the actual criminals aren't as smart as him, I know he went through a lot, but still...
And that geezer's death was also lack luster, they showed him to be all powerful and shit, but he dies easily in no time, then they say he has a psychopath son out of the blue and now Miho is dying, what's going on?! Lmao
Did they suddenly realize that this is a Kdrama and since Kdramas must have tons of dramatic nonsense in it, they now be adding as much bullshit as they can? The part where everyone were in prison and no one (both watchers and characters) could figure out who Big Mouse is and had to come with tons of theories was the peak of this drama honestly, that was when the plot shined.
I think overall Kdramas writers come up with very interesting concepts and ideas, but suffer to execute them properly, they do have the imagination, but almost zero skills to back up the creativity.
Many dramas got very great plots, they can start in a very powerful way, but from the middle everything start going downhill and they lose their spark completely by the end.
Other issue is adding too much drama, pointless sudden cringe romance that overpower the main focus of the plot be it action or or whatever other genre, misunderstandings and immature behavior (Especially when it's from adult characters), very unrealistic moments and outcomes...etc
They also add tons of annoying non well developed characters who ruin the watching experience, change the characters behavior totally for no reason, or nerf the actually good characters, and sometimes the drama personality as a whole switches, like from being a very dark thriller/all about psychology and mystery (almost borderline horror every now and then), it become your typical crime action drama with all clichés you would expect to see in plots revolved around police/detectives for example, or turning from comedy romance to angsty painful crap.
I don't know why many of these shows feel as if they were written by kids who are still total rookies at writing at times.
I didn't care about the siblings crap honestly and knew they were gonna die any moment. They just existed to make the girl be a little more humane blah blah.
Still hate the action scenes, fighting isn't only about being flashy, tons of explosions, and stuff flying around. If I want to see such extreme fight scenes I would go watch anime or Marvel movies. Yeah I know it's not a realistic plot since it has people with super powers and all, but they could make it a little more classy, not rely too much on special affects.
I really hate it when they cast very popular actors/actresses just to make them show for like 2 minutes all for the sake of making sure their fans would bother watching the movie, like some ad, all for the fame and promotion (Which shows how much they know their movie is ass to rely on such methods lol).
I kinda find it insulting for both said actors/actresses and their fans honestly. Especially when they are quite talented and Lee Jong Suk isn't a rookie actor after all, so either give them actual roles or never cast them to begin with. The fans will be all hyped to see their fav actors appear then they just waste hours for only one minute of screen time.
Well, glad the English part didn't bother you, but it made me cringe to death lmao
Also glad that you agree with the parts related to the ML and the work environment. These parts were truly bothering me. Yeah the ML whole character was so boring, annoying, and overdone I also couldn't help but roll my eyes over it.
I don't care that they don't intend it or whatever, in this day and age and with the help of web and technology that allow us to learn about and understand everything, such things shouldn't happen, them using the "being ignorant, not meaning to, or not knowing that much" excuse like with Kpop CA scandals is stupid.