I wish this airs soon. I really want to know the past.
No, you don't. Toxic and radioactive stuff is a pleasure in comparison. I read the novels and some points: a) Day's little brother got tricked and r*ped by Gear (due to idea from Itt), so Day decided to get revenge by r*ping Itt (logic π―)... to be honest the author seems to be incapable to write any relationship without r*pe jump starting it (I think only Nick and Neil are exception) b) Itt gets constantly r*ped, beaten, berated and forbidden to leave the apartment due to video tape of 1st r*pe... what is actually the blackmail for Itt: his friends are going to make fun of him for bottoming! Yes, not the act itself, not the fact they are both guys but that he is bottom π€― c) Gear doesn't get punished at all (Night forgves him in like 5min and they start dating) d) out of all of his friends only Nick figures some stuff out but (I think it's due to his upbringing) he doesn't seem to see red flags and even helps Itt to test Day's feelings/love e) even when they are in committed relationship they both get crazy jealous and every time A thinks that B is dumb for thinking that A can step out of relationship... because A loves B so much (usually it's portrayed that when Itt is the jealous one - he is irrational but when Day is jealous then Itt should just submit/it's his fault for makin Day jealous) f) even after 2 years they hardly have normal sex - by that I mean that it's usually described as Day forcing Itt (in vol. 3 it's not so glaring) and Day almost never prepares Itt, nor uses lube (once he decided that going to other room in their apartment is too much effort π), nor condoms g) abysmal communication skills: - they were deciding what to do on some holiday: Itt said he wants to stay in Bangkok to play with friends, Day said that they are going to some other city, Itt was disagreeing; later it turned out (during phone call with Itt's friend) that Day wanted to take Itt to graves (it was translated as visiting bones) of Day's parents and all the friends knew and we're going with them (the holiday was water based and they were supposed to play in the afternoon together) - Itt's dad was against their relationship at first and for Day to prove himself he was to go to dad's new branch and make it successful in 3 months (who cares that he was mafia henchmen and hair stylist... and Itt dad's business was in car parts) and in that time Day is forbidden to contact Itt - meeting extended family: Itt thought that his extended family won't be on board with his relationship, so he asked Day to pretend to be friends; what he did not know was that his father called the family and told them already AND threatend them to behave or they cut ties; Itt told dad his plan but he didn't tell him about the phone call (to be fair Day was also in the dark at that point); they go there and the family decided quite quickly to play with Itt and Day - one cousin (girl) was hitting on Day and other (guy) was super friendly with Itt; Day was not happy but he quite quickly figured out (overheard) what was going on and joined them in making fun of Itt; eventually Itt had enough his cousin flirting with Day (and Day acting like he was receptive to it) and yelled like a little child throwing tantrum that he is in relationship with Day; all were like: "we know!" and as usually he was a but of a joke h) once Itt's family was ok with their relationship they started treating Itt as Day's property - all his opinions/feelings were stupid/disregarded, he was told to just obey Day because he was definitely in the right (Gear was doing the same... I think that the one mostly on Itt's side was Night and slightly less Nick) i) in vol. 2 Itt's family decides that him and Day can be babysitters for 5 year old (or maybe he was 7?): - even Itt barely knew the child - kid was scared of Day - child was not leaving in Thailand (his father was foreigner, so I presume they lived in father's country) - child was not great with Thai culture, language etc. - his parents just dumped him for not specified amount of time (there was phone call: "We want to take him to X for a week - will you be back before of not?") - there were some guys after Kim (due to his relationship with Kamol), so Kamol decided to dump him on their vacation in X and it had to end with the bad guys attacking them in their hotel room while Day was gone (let's put child's trauma aside - this was especially dumb since Day and Kamol knew what was happening and basically let Kim be dragged to kidnappers car) j) the whole work thing - I get that Day had some experience with bookkeeping due to hair salon but it was studying some humanistic subject and he was working more like mechanic? How they worked was additional mystery to me, as Day could say: "Tomorrow we are going to my hair salon" (different city, they usually stayed a few days there) att he dropnof the hat. Honestly I don't know how Itt finished his studies because Day was not giving him much time/freedom Those were just "highlits" (mostly from vol 1) of what we were not missing.
It really wasn't so bad (the dubbing is what it is but since it's part of that type of comedy I am going to manage). The ending π€―π€ I strongly suspect set up for Thad and Luv. Inn (knows about Liv's obsession with fortune telling) told him about fortune teller. Uncle was with butlers at fortune teller. Luv got free "reading" + necklace which we know from trailer fits Thad's necklace from the same fortune teller. Butlers just happens to have argument in front of Luv (and that phone call π€). Smells fishy!
There is absolutely nothing wrong of those two people falling in love and one is 18 and the other is 29. Both…
I am glad we understood eachother π Yes, even people of the same age can be wildly different in their worldview, so it's important to understand that and accept the other person as they are (hoping that they will change into what we want is better left for dreams). There are many opposite attract kind of couples and they find their own balance. Age gap is just another "hurdle". I think if it similarly as with dating boss - the power imbalance can really ruin the relationship but there are couples that can do it.
There is absolutely nothing wrong of those two people falling in love and one is 18 and the other is 29. Both…
You assumed I was talking about gay relationship but I was not. Actually I read about it more in context of heterosexual relationships (as there are multiple studies about it) and apparently studies find that extreme partner age discrepancy is a risk factor for intimate partner homicide in heterosexual relationships. I presume it is similar in same-sex relationships. Just because somebody is 18 doesn't mean they are automatically equal partner in a relationship. What kind of life experience do they have? Are they financially independent? Have they figured themselves out (I mean who they actually are, what they want in people they surround themselves with, political and religious views, what they are looking for in a partner etc.). I don't know how old you are but when I think about myself as 18 or 28 years old I see the world differently, I bring different things to relationships as well and I expect different things then when I was 18. Usually people of similar ages have similar needs and wants and that was the gist of what I was pointing out.
KinnPorshe was already mentioned but other than that:Manner of death (Triage has a bit of it).Healer and Killer…
You're welcome πΊ (I highly recommend Killer and Healer π) Except main leads there is already established couple (and their interactions can be quite hilarious/toxic - SPOILER: MC is doing presentation on the uni in front of like 10 professors and gets text message from ML, MC ignores it, obviously. ML somehow got access to professor's private group chat and asks them/demands to know where is MC, ML goes to uni and literally drags MC trough hallway). MC in that couple is sometimes (at the beginning) like total dummy but then when he is at uni you get the feeling that he is quite educated.
I wonder about the backstory: if all of the villagers (at least adults) were on board with the chief's plan then…
Thank you for kind words π Yes, we only have like 2 EPs, so new character doesn't have much place (and I want to see some development with 2nd couple) and I agree with you that it might have been the new "capitalist" (the therm just kills me π€£). I would also love a bit more backstory with Wit - if I remember correctly he is the one of the 5 dragons who committed suicide in To Sir With Love. He just doesn't have luck in any life... π
I started today too... gives me the same feels as when it first aired π₯° I really wish gmmtv would put some…
You know what is the funniest? Their budget was small (I think they had to cut like 2 EPs because of that), promotion almost non-existent and the source material was trash (I really did not like the novel and the only thing that is overlapping are: names, twins switching, White and Sean getting together, Black got beat up - the end! No social commentary, no big conspiracy, Thad was an afterthought in the novel that appeared once or twice, no girls) and they still managed to make one of the best series. Unpopular opinion but I thought that Bad Buddy was good but just average - by that I mean typical BL not really ground breaking but it got so much more hype and promo and such. It was the 1st only time that I bought GMM merch - for Not Me. I bought DVD set, bandana and buttons-bracelets in pre-order and had to wait months after release to get them because apparently they were not prepared for the amount of orders. I was checking the site periodically and Bad Buddy did not have such massive issues with merch availability, so that says something IMO.
Does anyone know where I can find the completed novel?
Unfortunately the website was deleted but you are not missing much. I read the novel and it's totally different from the series (not worth the time IMO). Just to point out few things: Sean is loaded (parents are alive, he has older sibling), Sean knew about existence of White (but White did not know/remember him), he was even in love in him and was passing stuff for him trough (reluctant) Black. White was in the same city (just different school) the whole time. Sean figured out that White is pretending to be Black in like 5 min but was playing along to get in White's pants. No social commentary (unless you consider White being intoxicated and basically romanticised r*ped in the bathroom as one). Thad is just a passing character (I think he was mentioned once and showed up in one paragraph and I think they were calling him trans but I am not sure about that term they used). There is no big conspiracy. Girls? What girls? They don't exist. Black gets together with Gram (their 1st time was on the bed in Black's and Sean's room, while White was being r*ed by Sean in bathroom and their other friend was sleeping on the floor).
does someone know bl series like this?? like suspense violence crimes etc
KinnPorshe was already mentioned but other than that: Manner of death (Triage has a bit of it). Healer and Killer (China, so you know... showing it like bromance and it has 2 endings: "regular" one is SE for all but the hastily made PowerPoint presentation with some voiceover gives us alternative HE for main couple - for the rest it reminds SE). S.C.I. (China) The Untamed [Universe - like Fatal Journey and others] (China) The Abyss / Justice in the dark (China, they released 8 EPs in February and since then on hold or cancelled) HIStory 3 - Trapped Chains of Heart Laws of Attraction
An intense kiss/NC scene would have been out of place in that moment imo. Instead the kiss was a supplication,…
I agree with you and would like to add examples. "Colour rush" - dead fish kiss between 2 teneagers was definitely not enough. "2gether" - (in)famous high five is now a meme/joke. "Stay with me" - no kissing shown but the emotions were more than enough. Here MC and ML had such a strong flirting/jealousy that one would expect it to explode once they decided to cross the line, so I get why the people might find it underwhelming. I hope we get some intense scenes from 2nd pair π€
What a surprise to see Tan being so joyful and carefree, all thanks to Thee! They're honestly the main reason…
He looks so deranged most of the time he is smiling. Is he auditing fot Thai's Jocker? π€ πYes, I hope that they will have HE (Tan needs to grow up a bit and perhaps get a job, so he stops being dependent on his dad - I think most of us know that abusers like to have their victims financially dependant on them π)
Soooooo Goood! This team just does not miss and I'm here for every second of it,Thoughts below:- We finally got…
I wonder about the backstory: if all of the villagers (at least adults) were on board with the chief's plan then why getting rid of the lawyer and his mom? What can he do if he doesn't have plaintiffs? So I think it was at most smal minority that agreed with chief but Charn decided to punish them all (including children π)... I also wander how he survived - he was shot, in the middle of forest, in pouring rain. Who and how found him and took him to the hospital? Yes, his burn were so miniscule (I was certain that he died in that explosion after previous ep)! It was clearly shown that only 3 people escaped when building exploded and Wit was not one of them. It must me "drama rules" (like when important character is dying he can do like 15min monologue) - we have here like 100% chance that Wit will come back to get revenge on Charn (because all of that was Charn's fault and not due to Wit's bad decisions π).
I think that there was love at 1st sight scene. Do you remember flashback to when Thames and Bua (Mon's sister) came to Mon's house? Thames was staring on Mon's photo like transfixed. Yes, it is super choppy: I am on about 20min mark of ep 3 and so far no connection with ending of ep 2 π I have another complaint to add to yours: Thames is a ghost but he can for example lift spoon or bowl like it's nothing but he goes through the door. Logic somebody? And why did he need to borrow Mon's clothes? Similarly house spirit - they bought him clothes. What is happening with the food he eats? I know that some religions believe that sprits eat like an essence of the food but here Mon is pouring soup into Thames' mouth - where does the phisical soup go? On the floor? π€
It felt like both are crushing on each other as much as their crush on LJ. LOL Simeon is the only one that actually…
I got a feeling that he was asking MC out to block potential relationship or trying to figure out if our MC was even aware of others feelings. I am not saying that he did not like MC (one doesn't have to hate their "rival") but he liked him in more platonic way. The phone call Simeon did sounded a bit like he caught his significant other hiding mistress π€. Yes, ML is meh but MC most of the time as well. He is always so clueless π Only in the last scene where he set clear boundaries I was like ππ
I wonder can I request Netflix to pick this drama up?
There is request form so perhaps if we spam them enough? That might not be enough - the real issue is whether China would allow it to be broadcasted at all (the actors are Chinese and it was filmed in China, right? If so they might just shelf it forever π).
I'm most curious about whether Pei Shu's father is alive (not in the vegetative state) or not and did his mother…
I read the novels some time ago so I might be a bit off about the dad but I think he died in that facility and he never woke up. As for the mother - I am quite sure that she committed suicide (PS just didn't want to accept that fact but her actions before were clearly saying goodbye and detectives concluded no faul play... it's just that she made PS find her on purpose - lady, he was just a child so no need to add extra trauma to his plate π)
I read the novels and some points:
a) Day's little brother got tricked and r*ped by Gear (due to idea from Itt), so Day decided to get revenge by r*ping Itt (logic π―)... to be honest the author seems to be incapable to write any relationship without r*pe jump starting it (I think only Nick and Neil are exception)
b) Itt gets constantly r*ped, beaten, berated and forbidden to leave the apartment due to video tape of 1st r*pe... what is actually the blackmail for Itt: his friends are going to make fun of him for bottoming! Yes, not the act itself, not the fact they are both guys but that he is bottom π€―
c) Gear doesn't get punished at all (Night forgves him in like 5min and they start dating)
d) out of all of his friends only Nick figures some stuff out but (I think it's due to his upbringing) he doesn't seem to see red flags and even helps Itt to test Day's feelings/love
e) even when they are in committed relationship they both get crazy jealous and every time A thinks that B is dumb for thinking that A can step out of relationship... because A loves B so much (usually it's portrayed that when Itt is the jealous one - he is irrational but when Day is jealous then Itt should just submit/it's his fault for makin Day jealous)
f) even after 2 years they hardly have normal sex - by that I mean that it's usually described as Day forcing Itt (in vol. 3 it's not so glaring) and Day almost never prepares Itt, nor uses lube (once he decided that going to other room in their apartment is too much effort π), nor condoms
g) abysmal communication skills:
- they were deciding what to do on some holiday: Itt said he wants to stay in Bangkok to play with friends, Day said that they are going to some other city, Itt was disagreeing; later it turned out (during phone call with Itt's friend) that Day wanted to take Itt to graves (it was translated as visiting bones) of Day's parents and all the friends knew and we're going with them (the holiday was water based and they were supposed to play in the afternoon together)
- Itt's dad was against their relationship at first and for Day to prove himself he was to go to dad's new branch and make it successful in 3 months (who cares that he was mafia henchmen and hair stylist... and Itt dad's business was in car parts) and in that time Day is forbidden to contact Itt
- meeting extended family: Itt thought that his extended family won't be on board with his relationship, so he asked Day to pretend to be friends; what he did not know was that his father called the family and told them already AND threatend them to behave or they cut ties; Itt told dad his plan but he didn't tell him about the phone call (to be fair Day was also in the dark at that point); they go there and the family decided quite quickly to play with Itt and Day - one cousin (girl) was hitting on Day and other (guy) was super friendly with Itt; Day was not happy but he quite quickly figured out (overheard) what was going on and joined them in making fun of Itt; eventually Itt had enough his cousin flirting with Day (and Day acting like he was receptive to it) and yelled like a little child throwing tantrum that he is in relationship with Day; all were like: "we know!" and as usually he was a but of a joke
h) once Itt's family was ok with their relationship they started treating Itt as Day's property - all his opinions/feelings were stupid/disregarded, he was told to just obey Day because he was definitely in the right (Gear was doing the same... I think that the one mostly on Itt's side was Night and slightly less Nick)
i) in vol. 2 Itt's family decides that him and Day can be babysitters for 5 year old (or maybe he was 7?):
- even Itt barely knew the child
- kid was scared of Day
- child was not leaving in Thailand (his father was foreigner, so I presume they lived in father's country)
- child was not great with Thai culture, language etc.
- his parents just dumped him for not specified amount of time (there was phone call: "We want to take him to X for a week - will you be back before of not?")
- there were some guys after Kim (due to his relationship with Kamol), so Kamol decided to dump him on their vacation in X and it had to end with the bad guys attacking them in their hotel room while Day was gone (let's put child's trauma aside - this was especially dumb since Day and Kamol knew what was happening and basically let Kim be dragged to kidnappers car)
j) the whole work thing - I get that Day had some experience with bookkeeping due to hair salon but it was studying some humanistic subject and he was working more like mechanic? How they worked was additional mystery to me, as Day could say: "Tomorrow we are going to my hair salon" (different city, they usually stayed a few days there) att he dropnof the hat. Honestly I don't know how Itt finished his studies because Day was not giving him much time/freedom
Those were just "highlits" (mostly from vol 1) of what we were not missing.
I strongly suspect set up for Thad and Luv. Inn (knows about Liv's obsession with fortune telling) told him about fortune teller. Uncle was with butlers at fortune teller. Luv got free "reading" + necklace which we know from trailer fits Thad's necklace from the same fortune teller. Butlers just happens to have argument in front of Luv (and that phone call π€). Smells fishy!
Yes, even people of the same age can be wildly different in their worldview, so it's important to understand that and accept the other person as they are (hoping that they will change into what we want is better left for dreams). There are many opposite attract kind of couples and they find their own balance.
Age gap is just another "hurdle".
I think if it similarly as with dating boss - the power imbalance can really ruin the relationship but there are couples that can do it.
Just because somebody is 18 doesn't mean they are automatically equal partner in a relationship. What kind of life experience do they have? Are they financially independent? Have they figured themselves out (I mean who they actually are, what they want in people they surround themselves with, political and religious views, what they are looking for in a partner etc.).
I don't know how old you are but when I think about myself as 18 or 28 years old I see the world differently, I bring different things to relationships as well and I expect different things then when I was 18.
Usually people of similar ages have similar needs and wants and that was the gist of what I was pointing out.
Except main leads there is already established couple (and their interactions can be quite hilarious/toxic - SPOILER: MC is doing presentation on the uni in front of like 10 professors and gets text message from ML, MC ignores it, obviously. ML somehow got access to professor's private group chat and asks them/demands to know where is MC, ML goes to uni and literally drags MC trough hallway). MC in that couple is sometimes (at the beginning) like total dummy but then when he is at uni you get the feeling that he is quite educated.
Yes, we only have like 2 EPs, so new character doesn't have much place (and I want to see some development with 2nd couple) and I agree with you that it might have been the new "capitalist" (the therm just kills me π€£).
I would also love a bit more backstory with Wit - if I remember correctly he is the one of the 5 dragons who committed suicide in To Sir With Love. He just doesn't have luck in any life... π
Unpopular opinion but I thought that Bad Buddy was good but just average - by that I mean typical BL not really ground breaking but it got so much more hype and promo and such.
It was the 1st only time that I bought GMM merch - for Not Me. I bought DVD set, bandana and buttons-bracelets in pre-order and had to wait months after release to get them because apparently they were not prepared for the amount of orders. I was checking the site periodically and Bad Buddy did not have such massive issues with merch availability, so that says something IMO.
Just to point out few things: Sean is loaded (parents are alive, he has older sibling), Sean knew about existence of White (but White did not know/remember him), he was even in love in him and was passing stuff for him trough (reluctant) Black. White was in the same city (just different school) the whole time. Sean figured out that White is pretending to be Black in like 5 min but was playing along to get in White's pants.
No social commentary (unless you consider White being intoxicated and basically romanticised r*ped in the bathroom as one).
Thad is just a passing character (I think he was mentioned once and showed up in one paragraph and I think they were calling him trans but I am not sure about that term they used). There is no big conspiracy.
Girls? What girls? They don't exist.
Black gets together with Gram (their 1st time was on the bed in Black's and Sean's room, while White was being r*ed by Sean in bathroom and their other friend was sleeping on the floor).
Manner of death (Triage has a bit of it).
Healer and Killer (China, so you know... showing it like bromance and it has 2 endings: "regular" one is SE for all but the hastily made PowerPoint presentation with some voiceover gives us alternative HE for main couple - for the rest it reminds SE).
S.C.I. (China)
The Untamed [Universe - like Fatal Journey and others] (China)
The Abyss / Justice in the dark (China, they released 8 EPs in February and since then on hold or cancelled)
HIStory 3 - Trapped
Chains of Heart
Laws of Attraction
"Colour rush" - dead fish kiss between 2 teneagers was definitely not enough.
"2gether" - (in)famous high five is now a meme/joke.
"Stay with me" - no kissing shown but the emotions were more than enough.
Here MC and ML had such a strong flirting/jealousy that one would expect it to explode once they decided to cross the line, so I get why the people might find it underwhelming.
I hope we get some intense scenes from 2nd pair π€
I also wander how he survived - he was shot, in the middle of forest, in pouring rain. Who and how found him and took him to the hospital?
Yes, his burn were so miniscule (I was certain that he died in that explosion after previous ep)! It was clearly shown that only 3 people escaped when building exploded and Wit was not one of them. It must me "drama rules" (like when important character is dying he can do like 15min monologue) - we have here like 100% chance that Wit will come back to get revenge on Charn (because all of that was Charn's fault and not due to Wit's bad decisions π).
Do you remember flashback to when Thames and Bua (Mon's sister) came to Mon's house? Thames was staring on Mon's photo like transfixed.
Yes, it is super choppy: I am on about 20min mark of ep 3 and so far no connection with ending of ep 2 π
I have another complaint to add to yours: Thames is a ghost but he can for example lift spoon or bowl like it's nothing but he goes through the door. Logic somebody? And why did he need to borrow Mon's clothes? Similarly house spirit - they bought him clothes. What is happening with the food he eats? I know that some religions believe that sprits eat like an essence of the food but here Mon is pouring soup into Thames' mouth - where does the phisical soup go? On the floor? π€
The phone call Simeon did sounded a bit like he caught his significant other hiding mistress π€.
Yes, ML is meh but MC most of the time as well. He is always so clueless π Only in the last scene where he set clear boundaries I was like ππ
Regardless if that is so - they should get together π€
That might not be enough - the real issue is whether China would allow it to be broadcasted at all (the actors are Chinese and it was filmed in China, right? If so they might just shelf it forever π).
As for the mother - I am quite sure that she committed suicide (PS just didn't want to accept that fact but her actions before were clearly saying goodbye and detectives concluded no faul play... it's just that she made PS find her on purpose - lady, he was just a child so no need to add extra trauma to his plate π)