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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess May 11, 2024
Title Heroes
The map was stolen by the palace maid, who passed it to the cook. Chen Wu smuggled it from the palace to a pawn…
I just switched on subs @ Ep 1 at 3:55 on Tencent. It says March 26, 1911.
It is impossible to be 1919. The Qing dynasty ended in Oct 1911 and everyone cut off their pigtails. By 1919, the men all wore their hair short.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess May 11, 2024
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The map was stolen by the palace maid, who passed it to the cook. Chen Wu smuggled it from the palace to a pawn…
I hope none of them get the treasure bc they were all going to sell it for money.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess May 11, 2024
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The map was stolen by the palace maid, who passed it to the cook. Chen Wu smuggled it from the palace to a pawn…
I didn’t see 1919 anywhere only 1911. Maybe you saw a typo. By 1919 China was a republic there would be no Qing dynasty officials left.
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Replying to dapinaymrs May 11, 2024
What an enjoyable read! "Picks up stray royal children" had me cracking up! Indeed, the drama is eloquently summarized…
Ah ty for reading. The Chinese child actors in general are amazing. That kid was also in Who Rules the World.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess May 11, 2024
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The map was stolen by the palace maid, who passed it to the cook. Chen Wu smuggled it from the palace to a pawn…
This should be 1911 before WW1. The countdown they are talking about and the use of explosive materials are most likely for the 1911 rebellion that overthrew the Qing . That took place around October 1911 and that is probably where this drama ends. The Forbidden City was looted again after that so I am guessing the heroes were able to saved some of the national treasures.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess May 11, 2024
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The map was stolen by the palace maid, who passed it to the cook. Chen Wu smuggled it from the palace to a pawn…
Its an original script and I am only on ep 4 so I can't clearly see the plot yet. It may not have that much to do with the bigger political struggle bc that goes on until 1949 and this takes place in 1911. What I think it is about is protecting China's cultural relics and the looting of the Forbidden City many times by the Eight Nation Alliance many times even before the Qing dynasty fell. The Chinese have been very upset about this for many years and have been trying to recover their stolen treasures from the German, French, British, US, Japanese etc governments for decades. I suspect the cause that unites them in this fictional plot is they recover the treasure which the foreign powers never got their hands on bc they were hidden long before they occupied Beijing. They keep the evil warlords (ie maybe the Princess husband) from stealing that treasure and selling it to the foreign powers to finance their internal wars. But this is just my guess I don't really know yet.
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Replying to paxxie May 10, 2024
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Finally caught up, some observations:-- unless I get more backstory between Bu Fan and Huo Qin I find the latter…
I found Huo Qin creepy almost from the beginning.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess May 10, 2024
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The map was stolen by the palace maid, who passed it to the cook. Chen Wu smuggled it from the palace to a pawn…
MSD is not on either side yet. He is working for the monarchy that will soon collapse. ZBF is working for Prince Qi who I THINK is with Yuan Shikai who was not well regarded in history but he β€œwins” for awhile before he is forced to abdicate. Tongmenghui and Sun Wen should be the good guys but China goes into 4 decades of civil war before the CPC finally wins.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess May 10, 2024
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The map was stolen by the palace maid, who passed it to the cook. Chen Wu smuggled it from the palace to a pawn…
I believe his original birth name was Sun Wen. Sun Yat-sen was a name he adopted later on to reflect his political views. There are many different pinyin versions of his name bc of the many Chinese dialects and his far travels which included Japan and Southeast Asia. My grandfather was one of his followers he had a huge portrait of him in his hall. We called him Zhong -Shan I think Sun Yat-sen is more how he was known in the West. So the use of Sun Wen in the drama is more historically accurate.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess May 10, 2024
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That was sad. They were pretty much married. Exchanged vows and marriage tokens.
Well times are about to change dramatically... Otherwise both guard + princess and sect leader+ shifu's widow are definitely taboo "don't call me gege" / "don't call me shiniang" relationships!
Ms Lin is a namby pamby.
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Replying to Kairi of the Sky May 10, 2024
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He knows the scent of his woman after 12 years…
That was sad. They were pretty much married. Exchanged vows and marriage tokens.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess May 10, 2024
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True but I also don't think Fei Ke is innocent either. He is a grifter and an opportunist. They are all bad people.
Yes.... let's hope he didn't do anything to He Shan... we don't know their story yet...
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Replying to Blue_Umbrella May 10, 2024
Title Regeneration
What in the murder in orient express was that in the beginning of ep 7πŸ˜‚
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Replying to Badgal1995 May 10, 2024
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The big fat liars 😬 It was outright they own greed that led them astray to this!! I can’t believe it.
True but I also don't think Fei Ke is innocent either. He is a grifter and an opportunist. They are all bad people.
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Replying to Anthony Tumiwa May 10, 2024
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why Tencent released this drama so close to Joy of Life 2. :(
Because it is a very patriotic drama. Its also why its aired on both Tencent and iQiyi in China.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess May 10, 2024
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Ok I think I finally pieced together what happened with the map:
The map was stolen by the palace maid, who passed it to the cook. Chen Wu smuggled it from the palace to a pawn shop in Tianjin. It was retrieved by a Lingxi woman (Zhuo Bufan's "shiniang"). That's how it ended up in Zhuo Bufan's hands.

Tan Xian (Tongmenghui) knows the secret of unlocking the map. He was on his way to meet his 9 Tongmenghui colleagues but they were murdered in Dagu by Zhuo Bufan's men. They tortured the 9 Tongmenghui members to find out the identity of Tan Xian and the meeting point (Shanghai) which is where everyone is headed. Zhuo Bufan and his sect are working for Prince Qi who is after the map for the treasure. I am guessing Prince Qi is part of Yuan Shikai's faction

Working against them is Tongmenghui or the Alliance. Led by Sun Yat-sen (also called Sun Wen), they are a secret society out to overthrow the Qing empire and restore power to the Han and establish China as a republic. I think the bald monk is also with Tongmenghui.
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On Heroes May 10, 2024
Title Heroes
Ok I think I finally pieced together what happened with the map:
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Replying to AleksandraSucur May 10, 2024
Title Heroes
Exactly 😁. And I was wondering why there's no wuxia tag, too.The cinematography (including historical black…
I have seen the throne before but I can't remember which exhibition.
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Replying to AleksandraSucur May 10, 2024
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Exactly 😁. And I was wondering why there's no wuxia tag, too.The cinematography (including historical black…
I have seen the throne before but I can't remember which exhibition.
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Replying to AleksandraSucur May 10, 2024
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Exactly 😁. And I was wondering why there's no wuxia tag, too.The cinematography (including historical black…
I am not a collector either I just go bc they are museum quality collections and once they get sold into private hands again they don't reappear for years. City governments allow them to show the collections at prime exhibition venues at nominal cost bc they make it open it to the general public. Yeah no rush on the book I can't read French anyway...
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