VixenByNight72

Toh and his actions do reflect something that many viewers do not like to see in these series. His desperation in trying to get Jimmy to express any sort of real affection, concern, and care for him, outside of Toh's actions in making sure that Jimmy's needs are met isn’t what we see in most BLs.

Jimmy's supposed to treat Toh like he's an angel sent down from heaven just for him, and he's not (at the moment).

Jimmy's treating Toh in this way, because he doesn't want to acknowledge nor accept that he does have feelings for him.

Toh doesn't stand up for himself, because the times that he tried, Jimmy scolded him, and not go down on his knees pledging loyalty, faithfulness, and love (not yet at least).

Of course Jimmy expects Toh to come back to him, after publicly treating him like trash, in front of his partying friends AND his other former situationship. Toh has already done it, numerous times, when Jimmy has gotten mad at him for attempting to make him feel guilty for treating him like crap.

They never, ever had the conversation about "what are we", because Jimmy would kick him out of his place, after he had sex with him.

Jimmy has been treated like the "prize" for most of his actively dating years, because he's always been the one in control. He's the one that tells his partners when and where he wants them to be around him. He allows them into his world, due to how much he wants them to fulfill his needs.

The writing for this episode was excellent, because I have vivid memories of ending up at a friend's apartment, way past midnight, trying to console them over having their heart, mind, and soul broken, due to some a**wipe treating them so horribly, that they couldn't keep deluding themselves that "if they just did this or that, he would finally admit his 'true' feelings for them."

James and Kad were great in those scenes.

I knew that I recognized Heng from another BL. My sweetie from "House of Stars".

"Unless someone is forcing you to watch it (which is a crime, punishable by law, so call the real cops ASAP!), why can't we enjoy it?
May I point out a friendly reminder? This is only harmless entertainment!
Just IMHO of course! See you guys next Tuesday!"

I will also be tuning in next Tuesday. I think this series is refreshing. Two 20-something grown adult gay men taking consensual sexual pleasure in one another is viewed in a negative way?! They are wanting to know about each other and the first step was through sexual pleasure. This is nothing new and shouldn't be this shocking. This is a different type of BL that they aren't written to wait until the last episode for a kiss and that's okay to me.

Samon's going to risk it all for Po. They are basking in each other's presence.

That hot pink lip gloss looks delicious on Poom.

"Walking away would mean admitting that sometimes love does not fix people, sometimes you cannot save the person you want, and sometimes pain is just pain."

Thank you for this part and we all know that Toh will be "rewarded" at the end of this series, with Jimmy pledging unending love and devotion to him.

To somehow make that scene look romantic.

Thanks for bringing up Ming. I, too didn't want him to have his HEA with Joe, but those two were made for one another. Joe's soul chose him twice, and Ming never really changed. He still was a manipulative a**wipe, but NOW he used his ways to make sure that his new superstar actor hubby's career would have no obstacles in his way.
😃 😀 😄

All that Jimmy will provide Toh is the never-ending worry, that he'll never be truly "his".

Exactly, which is why the characters of Jimmy, Toh, Teh, nor Fah really don't need any sort of "redeeming qualities" for them to be "rootable". This is wish-fulfillment draped under the fantasy that Toh's and Fah's love will somehow "change" the behaviors of Jimmy and Teh.

I'm not upset, because Toh was going to set himself up for hurt, because dickmatized people do it all the time.

Toh is not using the logic part of his brain. He's going with how sexually good Jimmy makes him feel, thinking that if he just sticks it out, AND make Jimmy SEE that he's the only one that will take care of him, provide for him, and love him in only the way that he can, he will choose him in the end.

How many friends, relatives and even yourself needed a "snap out of it" intervention, when it came to that one guy or gal that got you so loopy over them, when they treated you like garbage?

When the parents took shots of that brown liquor, after seeing both of their sons making out, I laughed myself silly. These ridiculous plots work best in these short form series.

I'm a Gen X'er and how all of these characters are behaving isn't that mystifying to me.
The premise that Toh has absolutely no idea that his younger brother, best friend, and future boyfriend are players, is there for plot purposes only.

Immediately adds to my watch list.

Toh being nice to Jimmy, is exactly why he continues to flirt with him and made his move on him. At this point, Jimmy's not concerned at all about Toh nor his feelings. Jimmy is using Toh's interest in him, as a way to get back at both Teh and Fah for not taking his feelings for Fah as real, along with trying to make himself feel good, that at least Toh is attracted towards him.

Pure mess. 😃 😀 😄 😁

Fah has got Jimmy and Teh dancing to his tune, while virginal Toh is letting his heart overrule his brain regarding Jimmy.

Both brothers think that they are "special/exceptions", and that both Fah and Jimmy will be "different with them!" 😃 😀 😄 😁

This behavior is what ends friendships forever, but I can see that just like in the first season of "Only Friends", Jimmy and Teh will somehow forgive each other for all the secrets, lies, and manipulation they put themselves through over Fah and Toh.

Fah is definitely getting a thrill out of how sprung Teh is over him, to the point that he knows Teh is lying to Jimmy. He's not even showing concern or worry about Toh finding out that his friend is having sex with Teh.

No one on that entire campus hasn't told others about Fah's "no seconds" rule?

I hope this series maintains at least 80 percent of what was shown in the pilot!!

"I was LIVING for it because getting hurt is where growth starts."

Exactly. Jimmy, Teh, and Fah will have to experience real hurt to truly understand who they are, in order to be able to deserve the love that they want in their lives, and who they want to express their love in return. They all have this facade, that tries to cover their issues of not being willing to put themselves out there to experience real connections with the people they say they are attracted to.

Fah seems to believe that he's playing some sort of game in who he chooses to be with. He's the one that likes to be in control. Calling the shots. That one young lady, and now Teh. He pressed with Teh to see how far he could get with him, even having sex with him, in the same room as his brother, and BFF were in.
To be honest, that scene didn't shock me. As a former 20 something, I have experienced having to hear drunken friends getting down in the same room that I and others were sleeping in.

Teh, who believes that he's "different" from Jimmy, because he's not sleeping around with many people, yet he IS putting himself out there, without any understanding of what he wants, because he doesn't feel the instant heartbeat of romance.

Jimmy is exactly how many young 20-something males behave. They will sleep with anyone that catches their sexual interests. They aren't trying to be exclusive, with only one person. He's honest about it, but he's also absolutely clueless about his feelings for Fah and Toh. He says he likes Fah, but has experienced his interest being dismissed by him over, and over again. Yet, he unknowingly seeks out comfort from Toh. The nice, and cute older brother, of his best friend.

What I am wondering about is Toh. How does he not see the player behaviors of his best friend, his younger brother, AND the best friend of his younger brother?

This is the college version of BGMB!!

This looks to have the potential to be a very good series.

"That's not love. He just doesn't want anybody else to have Do Ha's attention. If I liked my friend, I would've told them whether I would be accepted or rejected, but I'm not going to wait until somebody else likes my friend, to confess."

Exacty. Gyeon literally had 10 years to confess to Do Ha. Do Ha wasn't atempting to focus on his romantic life at all, being a 27 year old, who had never ever in his life dated, nor kissed anyone, so Gyeon had plenty of time to make his feelings known towards him. What got me was Gyeon's violent possessiveness towards Do Ha. He behaved like everyone was a threat to him and his relationship with Do Ha. That's not the height of romance to me, but I guess this works for this particular plot.

I guess him giving up his life for Nawa's love is suppose to redeem Phraphai, but all I could think of was that Nawa, Phu, AND Phraphai could have survived, without all the pain and trauma IF Phraphai could have accepted Nawa's rejection.