I think so? It's just that there's a lot to enjoy other than the romance. I loved the friendships in the story and the supporting characters are so much fun. If you are into xianxia stories, it's a really good watch, with interesting lore, cool fantasy creatures, and famous tropes that are both subverted and some that are played straight. It's not for everyone though as you can tell! lol
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Before I read the book, I didn't really care, like I saw the whole thing where a bunch of fans were angry cause…
I think all's well. The director has another bl-esque show already that people liked. And there are many other adaptations like these around as well. Also apparently the author only let them adapt if they kept the pairings as they were
I think that's the best of two worlds though. Getting good work but not dealing with stalkers and creeps that…
Oh no! I don't want people blaming her. You're right, if anything it's more up to the directing and the script if a show fails. Actors are such a small part of the production that goes into making a series.
I thought you said here you respect everyone's opinions and everyone is allowed to express what they think. But clearly you don't actually think that. You just want me to change my word and echo what you think is the correct way to think. Well, that's not going to happen. So I think there's no point in continuing this conversation. You simply want everyone to agree with you that this is a faultless,amazing show. I don't feel that way at all. I think the later part of the show is weakly written and I don't need to defend my self or yield. You can think and feel whatever you want. It's honestly not your place or your duty to police my opinion. I can think any character is written badly and it's honestly just my business. This is the last thing I have to say to you. You can go engage with others who are interested in confirming all your opinions.
I think I already explained it in my reply to biri_biri and earlier to you as well, sorry if I don't repeat it. And like I said, I think she's a labor character, a plot device. She's not an actual character with agency or character development. So she's basically a two-dimensional cardboard character who is used by the plot to cause more drama for the mains and creates tension so the story doesn't end faster and more logically. I hate these kinds of characters. I also just find every single thing about her annoying! I don't get why a supporting character had to get such a huge romantic entanglement with multiple characters. Mu Jin himself was a glorified sidekick, there to hype up Ashile Sun. Why did he have to have such an elaborate romance plot that took up time but added nothing worthwhile to the show? I think the show shouldn't have extended this character's presence and instead killed her earlier in the grasslands and just shortened the khatun/mimi/sui plotline. There's so much I could criticize in that last leg of the show but I'm trying to restrain myself.
Yes, totally! I see a lot of comments about what a true friend she was to Changge and...no, she wasn't! If she loved Changge ass much as everyone says she does and trusted her, she would have told Changge all about this all the way back when they were in the grasslands the first time. Instead, she just waits until episode 45, "betrays" changge one last time and then they spent half of 48 playing sad music in order to convince the viewers that she was loyal the whole time. It's just....not my thing. I don't like it. That plan with the reveal of Changge's identity was very silly too. It only worked because the scriptwriters needed it to work. And I get upset because I think the start of the show was very careful with not having weird incidental luck so to see the last arc go this way, really frustrated me. Mimi is a tool, yes but the point is that it took away from the perfect plot for me. I now have a total plot in my head for all the ways this could've been avoided.
Honestly? I kind of don't care that things were difficult for her? Like it was difficult for every character. Actually, yeah. Now I can look back and see that there is a big issue with the plot in general. Yeah, mimi is annoying as hell, but she's mostly annoying because she's overused by a plot that didn't have any leverage besides dangling her helplessness in front of the viewers as an excuse for why the plot kept getting more complicated and why nothing was getting resolved. So I guess I don't blame her for being so furiously pointless yet overused...nah! Who am I kidding? I hold her personally responsible for everything! lol! I just can't separate the character's non-diegetic role in the plot from her diegetic one in the story. She is such a plot device for making Changge's life harder and dragging the story out longer that I can't just look at her place in the story as only a servant of two masters who is stuck between a rock and a hard place. Yes, I get it. She was getting used by the Khatun. I just think the show would have been more interesting if this character didn't have so much relevance to the situation to begin with. So how she operates with the given rhetorics becomes irrelevant in my situation. I think viewers who just absolutely love this show and like mini, are able to see the story as a package and I think in a neatly tied format, the character is more relatable and sympathetic. My brain is just not working like that. Not now anyway. I'm already in analyze mode. It's a personal sensitivity for me. I see a weird narrative choice, I just go into a spiral of figuring out why it happened like that and why it should've been avoided. It's only coming up because I think the show is good enough to be held accountable though. Like I wouldn't overanalyze Miss the Dragon or Ten miles of peach blossoms like this. They wouldn't be able to hold up at all!
It's not for everyone though as you can tell! lol
Also apparently the author only let them adapt if they kept the pairings as they were
I agree. I hope we'll see more and better representation in the future.
You're right, if anything it's more up to the directing and the script if a show fails. Actors are such a small part of the production that goes into making a series.
I don't feel that way at all. I think the later part of the show is weakly written and I don't need to defend my self or yield.
You can think and feel whatever you want. It's honestly not your place or your duty to police my opinion.
I can think any character is written badly and it's honestly just my business.
This is the last thing I have to say to you. You can go engage with others who are interested in confirming all your opinions.
I also just find every single thing about her annoying! I don't get why a supporting character had to get such a huge romantic entanglement with multiple characters. Mu Jin himself was a glorified sidekick, there to hype up Ashile Sun. Why did he have to have such an elaborate romance plot that took up time but added nothing worthwhile to the show?
I think the show shouldn't have extended this character's presence and instead killed her earlier in the grasslands and just shortened the khatun/mimi/sui plotline. There's so much I could criticize in that last leg of the show but I'm trying to restrain myself.
It's just....not my thing. I don't like it. That plan with the reveal of Changge's identity was very silly too. It only worked because the scriptwriters needed it to work.
And I get upset because I think the start of the show was very careful with not having weird incidental luck so to see the last arc go this way, really frustrated me. Mimi is a tool, yes but the point is that it took away from the perfect plot for me.
I now have a total plot in my head for all the ways this could've been avoided.
Actually, yeah. Now I can look back and see that there is a big issue with the plot in general. Yeah, mimi is annoying as hell, but she's mostly annoying because she's overused by a plot that didn't have any leverage besides dangling her helplessness in front of the viewers as an excuse for why the plot kept getting more complicated and why nothing was getting resolved.
So I guess I don't blame her for being so furiously pointless yet overused...nah! Who am I kidding? I hold her personally responsible for everything! lol!
I just can't separate the character's non-diegetic role in the plot from her diegetic one in the story. She is such a plot device for making Changge's life harder and dragging the story out longer that I can't just look at her place in the story as only a servant of two masters who is stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Yes, I get it. She was getting used by the Khatun. I just think the show would have been more interesting if this character didn't have so much relevance to the situation to begin with. So how she operates with the given rhetorics becomes irrelevant in my situation.
I think viewers who just absolutely love this show and like mini, are able to see the story as a package and I think in a neatly tied format, the character is more relatable and sympathetic.
My brain is just not working like that. Not now anyway. I'm already in analyze mode. It's a personal sensitivity for me. I see a weird narrative choice, I just go into a spiral of figuring out why it happened like that and why it should've been avoided.
It's only coming up because I think the show is good enough to be held accountable though. Like I wouldn't overanalyze Miss the Dragon or Ten miles of peach blossoms like this. They wouldn't be able to hold up at all!