I actually thought that Min Ha's reaction wasn't unjustified in ep8. Like didn't we get few eps ago a situation when both the husband and his mother wanted his wife to give natural birth pretty much no matter what? That time Min Ha got scolded for not taking the patient to operating room sooner (if I remember correctly). So if the show tells us that there are all kinds of people (even if we wish that everybody was good), I can't see how Min Ha approach is that unrealistic. Her words might have been considered harsh, but if she met the husband from few eps ago I bet she would be right after all.
i don't remember the cases of s1 but in s2 , it seems like they are too pressed to show that doctors are the one…
That's an interesting observation! I wonder how real life doctors would feel about such an approach. Maybe it's a bit noticeable because such situations happened 2 eps in a row now. In S1 there was a variety of situations, from Gyeo Ul in trouble for asking a patient whether he is an addict, to Jae Hak being saved by Jun Wan from having to apologize to patient's guardian, when he told them that it's not ok to yell at him (I watched S1 a few months ago so I might have some details wrong). The second one especially would be a good one to show that Jun Wan cares for his residents, but in both cases they did get in trouble.
I say Yes...it's the simple things sometimes that makes a person suddenly look at someone in a totally different…
Yes, I actually like their scenes in S2 way more than those in S1, I think they're really sweet. if only Song Hwa showed any interest in Ik Jun I would be so on board with that ship...
The scene between Rosa and Gyeo Ul was the cutest. Glad that the Winter Garden couple is getting more various…
Of course not everybody can be happy. But I wish they didn't make themselves suffer even more through not communicating with each other. Like I can handle unhappy moments like their family illnesses, because that's life, but I hope that they will not be hurt due to hiding information from each other... Sorry, hope i make sense 😅 I hope both winter garden couple and ik sun and jun wan get to talk in the next episode...
Tbh the only thing that bother me a little is that our five protagonists, even if they're bestfriends with each…
For the last paragraph, I think you mistook who I was talking about - it was Jun Wan, not Andrea. Unfortunately Jun Wan hasn't shared who he was dating with anybody...
I do see your point with not sharing some things with your friends. I too turn to different people for different advice/support. But if there's no sharing between 99rs, they should at least confide in other people. As far as I see, Andrea is suffering alone with his doubts right now, Jun Wan hasn't shared anything with anyone either (apart from Jae Hak, but that was very small). We didn't see what happened durig time skip, but he surely hasn't told anyone that he knows Ik Sun is back... Ik Jun is keeping it to himself that he has confessed to Song Hwa... There's just too much they're keeping to themselves, rather than turn to someone else for support. I also don't thing age makes them deal with worries without the need for other's advice. Rosa and Director have perfectly fine friendship for example, and they need each other's support even though they are even older... That's what I wish I saw with our 99rs.
Yes, I agree with the theory that Ik Jun saw a picture of Jun Wan. I guess we'll find out if he was the one who intervened in the next episode. I was feeling weird about the preview too, like did Ik Sun jump out of the train so that they didn't get to talk or what lol? They're dragging it out so unnecessarily...
Tbh the only thing that bother me a little is that our five protagonists, even if they're bestfriends with each…
I agree with you, especially with the fact that you might not share everything with the whole group of your friends. But at the same time, you should share your worries with one person at least (if you do have people close to you, and in this situation they do). It's painful for me to watch characters I love suffering on their own, when they're supposed to have a group of very close friends.
An example from the same writer for me would be Reply 1988. The main characters are a close group of friends, but they don't share everything with everybody. But most things are nonetheless shared, they tend to seek advice and comfort from each other. Some things are of course secret for some time, but I feel that there was always somebody who learnt them at some point in time.
And in HP here we have Jun Wan, 2/3 of S2 gone and he hasn't admitted to anyone who his gf was... The most painful scene for me in ep8 was Jun Wan and Andre drinking with each other. Why didn't they talk honestly? No idea, seriously no idea...
Maybe I'm feeling that way because I binged HP season 1 and reply series as well, whereas I watch HP2 on weekly basis so it stands out more...
I'm in the minority but I don't mind Ik-Jun and Song Hwa staying friends. She is not in love with him and I hope…
Yeah, I'd be fine if they were to stay friends as well. But I have a strong feeling that they will still end up together, with some cliche situation like "Ik Jun exwife coming back and trying to get back with him" or "new girl trying to flirt with Ik Jun" and Song Hwa realizing that she loves him after all... And in that moment I'll be mad, because there wasn't any development from her side. Usually I'd say that the writer stays away from such cliches, but given Ik Sun and Jun Wan's plot right now, I'm getting doubtful.
Song Hwa to Ik Jun: "How did you even think to get this for me?"Ik Jun (the snack thief): "Because I love you"Seriously…
The scene between Rosa and Gyeo Ul was the cutest. Glad that the Winter Garden couple is getting more various scenes. But Andrea seems to feel uneasy... I just want everybody to be happy, but everyone is hurting! Maybe apart from Suk Hyung, he seemed to be relaxed and playful this episode, that was really good to see.
I say Yes...it's the simple things sometimes that makes a person suddenly look at someone in a totally different…
I also think that they will be together in the end. But I'm not entirely happy about how they're progressing at the moment. It's clear how Ik Jun is feeling, but they should show us a bit more of Song Hwa's side. If she just decides in the 12th episode to get together with him I will just feel that the whole season was wasted. If the writers wanted them to be together, they should have started the relationship after last season's confession. I don't feel like Song Hwa's feelings have changed at all (besides the talk she had with Lee Kyu Hyung's character, but that was back in ep 3 or 4?)
I'm actually not sure he has, cause in the next ep's preview he was telling Ik Sun that Jun Wan knows that she's in Korea. Why would he, if he knew that they met up? And it was the last possible ride on that distance if I remember correctly, so I think that it was his scheme. But ofc the scene from the trailer might be a flashback or writer playing with us.
I really hope Iksun can redeem herself on ep 9 cause at this point I just want Junwan to completely move on and…
I agree completely... I actually hope they have a proper talk at last and go their seperate ways. I don't like how the writers handle this plotpoint at all. One episode we get to see them almost meet (when Jun Wan sees Ik Sun in the car), the next one Jun Wan learns that she is back in Korea, and the next they finally meet... It's been so dragged out and just one circumstance after another. Just let the poor boy move on.
Whenever some tragedy happens with any of the main characters, i get confused. like what kind of bff are they…
YES. I'm sorry but it's just so sad to watch. In this week's episode we got:
- Jun Wan not telling Andrea (or anybody) about being hurt due to the fact that Ik Sun is back - Andrea not telling Jun Wan that something happened to Gyeo Ul (eventually Ik Jun at least found out, but that's due to Gyeo Ul being a doctor at his department. Andrea hasn't told anybody that he's worried about her or about the fact that the engagement didn't succeed) - Andrea not telling Gyeo Ul that his mom's sick (I know that he didn't want to worry her, but still... Proving the point that nobody's talking to each other here)
At least we got Song Hwa telling Ik Jun about her mother. And the healthiest couple out here, Rosa and Jong Su - both of them share their worries with each other almost immediately (Jong Su about his chilren, Rosa about her health).
I know that when you're a group of friends, you tend to have persons you are closest to, and some things you don't want to share with everybody. But at least SHARE WITH SOMEBODY. Why are they suffering on their own when it's a show about friendship? What lesson do we get here, what are friends for, only for eating with each other? Jun Wan hasn't told anyone about his situation for the most part, Ik Jun is also hiding the fact that he likes Song Hwa & hiding the fact that he knows about Jun Wan and Ik Sun, Andrea seems to know that sth is wrong with Gyeo Ul, but she keeps telling him otherwise and he looks really hurt this episode... At least Song Hwa and Suk Hyung share their worries with others.
Maybe it's not relatable for you, sounds cliche, unexusable even for having abusing parents because you never…
Man, who ever said I hate her? Critisizing the plot doesn't equal hate towards a character. And even if I will ever grow to hate her (which in the end should be blamed solely on the writers, and is not always a bad thing to show us there are people which we like and which we don't), I definitely didn't from the beginning, quite the opposite, and I think that goes for most people here, so calm down XD
Maybe it's not relatable for you, sounds cliche, unexusable even for having abusing parents because you never…
How could Andrea know that she hasn't opened up to him yet, if she doesn't let him know? In my mind, it would just be better for writeres to postpone that plot (proposal) 2-3 episodes, and not start it at this point.
As for the words I retracted from her letter, I admit that It might not be 100% accurate, as I don't have a vpn only on my laptop. Didn't she write more of "if you contact me, I might not be able to answer?" It's pretty similar for me to just saying "you shouldn't contact me for now". But if my reasoning takes too far, my bad.
Maybe it's not relatable for you, sounds cliche, unexusable even for having abusing parents because you never…
First of all - we're not even sure that that's what's happening (family abuse). It's just a fan theory, I wouldn't use it as and all and be all argument.
Second of all - the "cliche" for me here is the fact that this whole situation ruined Andrea's proposal - this problem shouldn't be introduced in such a moment in my opinion. For me it's just another version of "he's just about to confess his love - but suddenly his best friend comes in his room and ruins everything" cliche, and it just brings Andrea more unnecessary bad things happening around him.
Even if the theory of abusive father is true, there are hundred better ways to handle that situation maturely. When someone explicitly asks you, like Andrea, to share your burdens with him, you should be aware the pain you bring him by not explaining your situation in the slightest. She could have at least mentioned that her mother is in a hospital, without giving more explanation.
Maybe all people with trauma are different, I can't speak for everybody. But right now, this season shows us only 1 way to cope with it - the same with Ik Sun and Gyeo Ul. Rather than talk to their partners, they try to solve the problem by themselves and just suffer on their own - and make their partners suffer as well, because they are unaware of what's going on. And in my view, that is not what relationships are for.
I do see your point with not sharing some things with your friends. I too turn to different people for different advice/support. But if there's no sharing between 99rs, they should at least confide in other people. As far as I see, Andrea is suffering alone with his doubts right now, Jun Wan hasn't shared anything with anyone either (apart from Jae Hak, but that was very small). We didn't see what happened durig time skip, but he surely hasn't told anyone that he knows Ik Sun is back... Ik Jun is keeping it to himself that he has confessed to Song Hwa... There's just too much they're keeping to themselves, rather than turn to someone else for support. I also don't thing age makes them deal with worries without the need for other's advice. Rosa and Director have perfectly fine friendship for example, and they need each other's support even though they are even older... That's what I wish I saw with our 99rs.
An example from the same writer for me would be Reply 1988. The main characters are a close group of friends, but they don't share everything with everybody. But most things are nonetheless shared, they tend to seek advice and comfort from each other. Some things are of course secret for some time, but I feel that there was always somebody who learnt them at some point in time.
And in HP here we have Jun Wan, 2/3 of S2 gone and he hasn't admitted to anyone who his gf was... The most painful scene for me in ep8 was Jun Wan and Andre drinking with each other. Why didn't they talk honestly? No idea, seriously no idea...
Maybe I'm feeling that way because I binged HP season 1 and reply series as well, whereas I watch HP2 on weekly basis so it stands out more...
- Jun Wan not telling Andrea (or anybody) about being hurt due to the fact that Ik Sun is back
- Andrea not telling Jun Wan that something happened to Gyeo Ul (eventually Ik Jun at least found out, but that's due to Gyeo Ul being a doctor at his department. Andrea hasn't told anybody that he's worried about her or about the fact that the engagement didn't succeed)
- Andrea not telling Gyeo Ul that his mom's sick (I know that he didn't want to worry her, but still... Proving the point that nobody's talking to each other here)
At least we got Song Hwa telling Ik Jun about her mother. And the healthiest couple out here, Rosa and Jong Su - both of them share their worries with each other almost immediately (Jong Su about his chilren, Rosa about her health).
I know that when you're a group of friends, you tend to have persons you are closest to, and some things you don't want to share with everybody. But at least SHARE WITH SOMEBODY. Why are they suffering on their own when it's a show about friendship? What lesson do we get here, what are friends for, only for eating with each other? Jun Wan hasn't told anyone about his situation for the most part, Ik Jun is also hiding the fact that he likes Song Hwa & hiding the fact that he knows about Jun Wan and Ik Sun, Andrea seems to know that sth is wrong with Gyeo Ul, but she keeps telling him otherwise and he looks really hurt this episode... At least Song Hwa and Suk Hyung share their worries with others.
As for the words I retracted from her letter, I admit that It might not be 100% accurate, as I don't have a vpn only on my laptop. Didn't she write more of "if you contact me, I might not be able to answer?" It's pretty similar for me to just saying "you shouldn't contact me for now". But if my reasoning takes too far, my bad.
Second of all - the "cliche" for me here is the fact that this whole situation ruined Andrea's proposal - this problem shouldn't be introduced in such a moment in my opinion. For me it's just another version of "he's just about to confess his love - but suddenly his best friend comes in his room and ruins everything" cliche, and it just brings Andrea more unnecessary bad things happening around him.
Even if the theory of abusive father is true, there are hundred better ways to handle that situation maturely. When someone explicitly asks you, like Andrea, to share your burdens with him, you should be aware the pain you bring him by not explaining your situation in the slightest. She could have at least mentioned that her mother is in a hospital, without giving more explanation.
Maybe all people with trauma are different, I can't speak for everybody. But right now, this season shows us only 1 way to cope with it - the same with Ik Sun and Gyeo Ul. Rather than talk to their partners, they try to solve the problem by themselves and just suffer on their own - and make their partners suffer as well, because they are unaware of what's going on. And in my view, that is not what relationships are for.