Not Cha Jung-Won 😭 I miss her! I WISH we had a Cha Jung-Won or Shin Hwa-Kyung (from Secrets and Lies) here.…
Omggggg yes!!! Jeongwon would absolutely destroy Hwayoung there would be no question about it. And Hwakyung would absolutely use Baekho and Junho for some corporate warfare.
A graceful liar really spoiled me 😭 and now I can't help but to think that Lee Dohyun would've bodied this scenario 😭 is it too late to switch writers? lol
Re: Hwayoung... I said the same thing after watching yesterday's episode - this drama is like woman in a veil where the antagonist is really the secret protagonist. Especially since no one can stop her 🤣 I swear Jeongin from Snow White's Revenge walked so Hwayoung could run
Made the executive decision to watch today's episode on my laptop as opposed to my TV because I was serious when I said I don't want to see Jangmi cry over Baekho after yesterday. I'm not ashamed to say I fast forwarded through their entire date. I caught a bit of Baekho running holding Jangmi's letter and all I can say is this better trigger his villain origin story because this ain't it... like at all!!! She didn't even have the bravery to say that she is going to marry Junho... Baekho will find out tomorrow.
ONCE AGAIN I am asking why people keep thinking Baekho is too soft to learn the truth about Junho's parentage. What do Taepyung and Jangmi expect to happen? Baekho to self destruct? Come on now.
Speaking of Baekho you mean to tell me that he's a Ma?! You know what this means - Jangmi and Baekho can't end up with each other. What is the screenwriter planning with this twist.... tbh it feels kind of unnecessary considering all the unturned stones in the plot and there's like ... 31 episodes left. Hopefully this doesn't get extended lol. But back to Baekho... how the hell does he have blood ties to the Ma family....
"This is harder than revenge" "this is my punishment for not protecting my dad" "I wish tomorrow would never come!" Whatever Jangmi! Your pain is self-inflicted.
At least Junho has Youngja in his corner... which triggered Hwayoung lmaoooo girl bye you literally abandoned him as an infant while Youngja (and Nambong) stepped up to the plate.
Tomorrow's episode looks annoying ... why is Junho punching Baekho in a cremation hall... why the hell is Jangmi thinking she is going to get away with living as Seorin.... does she have Ripley syndrome now? Relax Cha Jeongwon.
Say it with me: poor communication kills
Meanwhile, Hwayoung's going to up the ante with Nambong because she's feeling inferior to Youngja. Yikes. This screenwriter is fond of weaponizing relationships as a form of revenge I see... can't you think of anything else?
Also I'm plugging Queen's House here because Eunjung can do SO much more than what this script is requiring... Jaein would never fumble a revenge plot like this!!
Wholly agree tat Jump Me shldn't pose the challenge to JH. He was initially willing to reason. Obviously JH took…
I like your idea! After the accident Seorin should've gotten plastic surgery or something because they would be fun to watch. Iirc when Seorin and Jangmi first switched places I remember being Jangmi being shocked that Seorin isn't as nice as she thought. That could've lead into some excellent conflict...
Re: Junho! I agree Junho's reaction to Hwayoung being his mother was excellent. I had feared that he would just follow her but he's sticking to his guns and we love that for him. (And I love how he doubled down once Jangmi explained everything lol) The whole thing with him getting possessive over Jangmi was so unnecessary and felt... out of character.
I swear if he doesn't get a happy ending after surviving abandonment trauma and leukemia I am taking 3 stars off my final review on principle....
You are right. Jang Mi did search Seo Rin's bedroom, but that was about it. You also make some good points about…
It's so illogical. I feel like this show will end with Hwayoung's own ambition doing herself in, or she'll die ... Jangmi's kinda bad at this revenge thing lol
Have been wondering about Seo Rin's evidence too. She transferred it from her laptop to the flash drive- so did…
I don't think Jangmi has a plan lol
Another thought that came to me... The wedding might not even happen since every major thing (that actually furthers the plot further) tends to get interrupted ie literally every time Jangmi attempts to expose Hwayoung to the chairman something happens.
With how this drama is going (and how late in the series the marriage is) I am hoping that Baekho and Taepyung crash the ceremony and bust into the wedding hall with Seorin 🤣
Havent watched today's episode yet .... but I am at work thinking : what exactly will be different if Jangmi marries Junho?
It's not like Jangmi is marrying into Junhos family, Junho and Hwayoung live together and by marrying him she would get access to Hwayoung's household..that would make more sense. It's not like Junho and Hwayoung have a close mother-son relationship and her presence would weaken that bond, which would also make more sense.
Jangmi's been living with Hwayoung for like 40-50 episodes but it never crossed her mind to start looking for proof. Oh wait it did, when she first entered the house: whatever happened to Seorin's lipstick shaped USB with the "proof"? Last I remember was Sanwol taking it and that was like what? Episode 55? That USB disappeared into the void.
I like how both domestic and international audiences are taking this marriage plot negatively 😂 well back to work...
Wholly agree tat Jump Me shldn't pose the challenge to JH. He was initially willing to reason. Obviously JH took…
Yesss Seorin waking up and coming after Jangmi is the only thing that'll bring some sense to her 🤣 hard agree that her revenge is juvenile. Especially since Hwayoung has literally committed felonies...
Jangmi plays checkers, Hwayoung plays chess....
Junho is actually my favorite of the MLs he's been my favorite ever since the press releases described him as a cold city man lol. So I want a little more for him that's not him chasing/being baited by Jangmi. And considering all he's been through I hope he gets a happy ending....
I am still shocked by the choices she gave Jun Ho- she wanted him to decide for her whether she should continue…
It seems that the prevailing opinion here is that Jangmi's marriage proposal was in bad taste/badly written. I really didn't like the whole "marry me if you think you can make me fall in love with you" thing because that's... Not how relationships work 😭 and it immediately soured me on Baekho and Jangmi's relationship.
Like first we had Junho talking about marrying Jangmi like he's going to force her (which annoyed me bc Junho was my favorite up until that point... It felt like character assassination lol) and now we have Jangmi doing ... whatever she's doing with Junho... While dating his brother. I guess the writer finds this kind of stuff romantic but I don't 😭 it just feels dated to me.
it would be great if Junho told Baekho about Jangmi's offer and they choose brotherhood and take down Hwayoung together... a girl can dream lol
I swear if Jangmi starts crying to Baekho about how much she loves him during that picnic scene I'm fast forwarding through lol
As for the marriage I think it will change the mood and not in a good way (for me) for starters Baekho will be sad, Junho will probably start overcompensating to win Jangmi. Hongju will become empowered to keep harassing Baekho ,(annoying viewers in the process) .... all while Hwayoung stays winning 😭
Good points. I just hope the writer doesn't wait until episode 117 to address all of these lol. So much of this drama has been Hwayoung doing evil things and Jangmi just twiddling her thumbs and otherwise being indecisive lol
I fully believe Taepyung and Baekho will be the ones to find Seorin .... not Jangmi... they're the ones doing the heavy lifting anyway!
Originally I thought I would be a dahae shooter (still kinda am... not just anyone can go from poor orphan to first lady of SK 🤣) but this drama's title is fitting because Dahae's ambition is something else. I'm enjoying her rise to power and watching her take down those in her way
I like Dokyung and Dohoon. Dohoon reminds me of a puppy and he's a nice break from the intensity and scheming going on lol meanwhile I am geeked because my theory about Dokyung was correct! 😭 I like Dokyung
Then Ms. Hong, Taebaek (?) and Samdo! Every revenge drama leads needs their wingmen and they do a great job lol. Haven't enjoyed seeing a wedding get disrupted this much since Ice Adonis.
Haryu has grown on me a lot as well especially after he became Jaewoong. He is giving revenge incarnate and I love it.
I'm on episode 13 so at the part where Haryu starts getting closer to the Baeks and I'm very much enjoying how the drama seems to be moving faster since episode 10.
I'm pouring one out for the real Jaewoong tho he didn't deserve to go out like that 😭
The funniest thing about this drama's love triangle is that Jangmi is quite possibly the driest FL that I've seen in a while. The most unrealistic thing is that both brothers are pining for her... Also for someone who "loves" Baekho so much ... Jangmi keeps a A LOT of secrets from him but that's none of my business ☕
I swear this would be so much more enjoyable if the brothers put this crap on the back burner and team up?? Like you have a lawyer at your disposal, Seorin's money, and Junho, being Hwayoung's son, is a loaded gun in the sense that he's Hwayoung's biggest weakness. We could get some real nasty schemes that could bring Hwayoung to her knees but the best thing Jangmi can think up after ~40 episodes is to marry Junho and "take him away from Hwayoung"? (And BTW she didn't think this up on her own! She only agreed to Hwayoung's demand after being strong armed into it because Hwayoung's people shook down the side dish shop!)
Can Seorin please wake up already lol
My eyes were rolling into the back of my head when Jangmi said "if you think you have the confidence to make me love you, then marry me" to Junho. I don't ever want to see her cry about hurting Baekho ever again after that. If you love someone you don't challenge someone else into making you want to chose them. Full stop 😭
Well. I guess I'll be watching this as "the rise and fall of chae hwayoung" she's basically the main character who's actually doing things and making moves. All Jangmi is capable of doing is taking Ls and delivering monologues about how she's gonna get Hwayoung but fails to put her money where her mouth is. Every. Single. Time. Even her method of revenge (marrying Junho) is basically giving Hwayoung what she wants lol
I'm just here for whenever Seorin wakes up and for whatever scheme Baekho and Taepyung pull off next since they seem to be the only characters that got the memo that they're in a revenge drama lol. Taepyung has become a sleeper fave of mine in this drama (as well as Geumsoon!)
I won't mince words: tomorrow's episode looks LAME AF 🤮 Jangmi is an awful FL and sorry not sorry but I'm not at all invested in her facing the consequences of her stupid decisions. I don't even like Baekho like that but all this tip toeing around Baekho's feelings is PMO!!! He's 32 not 13 - he can handle more than you think!
Laura has potential to become a great villain lol Seri just wanted to cause trouble for the hell of it 😂 her pretending to be Jaein to solicit older men as a high school student for shits and giggles was crazy work 😭
A graceful liar really spoiled me 😭 and now I can't help but to think that Lee Dohyun would've bodied this scenario 😭 is it too late to switch writers? lol
Re: Hwayoung... I said the same thing after watching yesterday's episode - this drama is like woman in a veil where the antagonist is really the secret protagonist. Especially since no one can stop her 🤣 I swear Jeongin from Snow White's Revenge walked so Hwayoung could run
This feels like it's going to be a slow burn tbh
The most logical thing is like you said.. Baekho's original family having a part in the creation of Dream Group.
It makes the most sense which means the screenwriter is going to completely ignore that option and go for something more convulted 🤣
ONCE AGAIN I am asking why people keep thinking Baekho is too soft to learn the truth about Junho's parentage. What do Taepyung and Jangmi expect to happen? Baekho to self destruct? Come on now.
Speaking of Baekho you mean to tell me that he's a Ma?! You know what this means - Jangmi and Baekho can't end up with each other. What is the screenwriter planning with this twist.... tbh it feels kind of unnecessary considering all the unturned stones in the plot and there's like ... 31 episodes left. Hopefully this doesn't get extended lol. But back to Baekho... how the hell does he have blood ties to the Ma family....
"This is harder than revenge" "this is my punishment for not protecting my dad" "I wish tomorrow would never come!" Whatever Jangmi! Your pain is self-inflicted.
At least Junho has Youngja in his corner... which triggered Hwayoung lmaoooo girl bye you literally abandoned him as an infant while Youngja (and Nambong) stepped up to the plate.
Tomorrow's episode looks annoying ... why is Junho punching Baekho in a cremation hall... why the hell is Jangmi thinking she is going to get away with living as Seorin.... does she have Ripley syndrome now? Relax Cha Jeongwon.
Say it with me: poor communication kills
Meanwhile, Hwayoung's going to up the ante with Nambong because she's feeling inferior to Youngja. Yikes. This screenwriter is fond of weaponizing relationships as a form of revenge I see... can't you think of anything else?
Also I'm plugging Queen's House here because Eunjung can do SO much more than what this script is requiring... Jaein would never fumble a revenge plot like this!!
Re: Junho! I agree Junho's reaction to Hwayoung being his mother was excellent. I had feared that he would just follow her but he's sticking to his guns and we love that for him. (And I love how he doubled down once Jangmi explained everything lol) The whole thing with him getting possessive over Jangmi was so unnecessary and felt... out of character.
I swear if he doesn't get a happy ending after surviving abandonment trauma and leukemia I am taking 3 stars off my final review on principle....
Another thought that came to me... The wedding might not even happen since every major thing (that actually furthers the plot further) tends to get interrupted ie literally every time Jangmi attempts to expose Hwayoung to the chairman something happens.
With how this drama is going (and how late in the series the marriage is) I am hoping that Baekho and Taepyung crash the ceremony and bust into the wedding hall with Seorin 🤣
It's not like Jangmi is marrying into Junhos family, Junho and Hwayoung live together and by marrying him she would get access to Hwayoung's household..that would make more sense. It's not like Junho and Hwayoung have a close mother-son relationship and her presence would weaken that bond, which would also make more sense.
Jangmi's been living with Hwayoung for like 40-50 episodes but it never crossed her mind to start looking for proof. Oh wait it did, when she first entered the house: whatever happened to Seorin's lipstick shaped USB with the "proof"? Last I remember was Sanwol taking it and that was like what? Episode 55? That USB disappeared into the void.
I like how both domestic and international audiences are taking this marriage plot negatively 😂 well back to work...
Jangmi plays checkers, Hwayoung plays chess....
Junho is actually my favorite of the MLs he's been my favorite ever since the press releases described him as a cold city man lol. So I want a little more for him that's not him chasing/being baited by Jangmi. And considering all he's been through I hope he gets a happy ending....
Like first we had Junho talking about marrying Jangmi like he's going to force her (which annoyed me bc Junho was my favorite up until that point... It felt like character assassination lol) and now we have Jangmi doing ... whatever she's doing with Junho... While dating his brother. I guess the writer finds this kind of stuff romantic but I don't 😭 it just feels dated to me.
it would be great if Junho told Baekho about Jangmi's offer and they choose brotherhood and take down Hwayoung together... a girl can dream lol
As for the marriage I think it will change the mood and not in a good way (for me) for starters Baekho will be sad, Junho will probably start overcompensating to win Jangmi. Hongju will become empowered to keep harassing Baekho ,(annoying viewers in the process) .... all while Hwayoung stays winning 😭
I fully believe Taepyung and Baekho will be the ones to find Seorin .... not Jangmi... they're the ones doing the heavy lifting anyway!
We have 32 episodes left so I wonder too. Particularly I wonder how long until the wedding (if it actually happens, that is...)
I like Dokyung and Dohoon. Dohoon reminds me of a puppy and he's a nice break from the intensity and scheming going on lol meanwhile I am geeked because my theory about Dokyung was correct! 😭 I like Dokyung
Then Ms. Hong, Taebaek (?) and Samdo! Every revenge drama leads needs their wingmen and they do a great job lol. Haven't enjoyed seeing a wedding get disrupted this much since Ice Adonis.
Haryu has grown on me a lot as well especially after he became Jaewoong. He is giving revenge incarnate and I love it.
I'm on episode 13 so at the part where Haryu starts getting closer to the Baeks and I'm very much enjoying how the drama seems to be moving faster since episode 10.
I'm pouring one out for the real Jaewoong tho he didn't deserve to go out like that 😭
I swear this would be so much more enjoyable if the brothers put this crap on the back burner and team up?? Like you have a lawyer at your disposal, Seorin's money, and Junho, being Hwayoung's son, is a loaded gun in the sense that he's Hwayoung's biggest weakness. We could get some real nasty schemes that could bring Hwayoung to her knees but the best thing Jangmi can think up after ~40 episodes is to marry Junho and "take him away from Hwayoung"? (And BTW she didn't think this up on her own! She only agreed to Hwayoung's demand after being strong armed into it because Hwayoung's people shook down the side dish shop!)
Can Seorin please wake up already lol
My eyes were rolling into the back of my head when Jangmi said "if you think you have the confidence to make me love you, then marry me" to Junho. I don't ever want to see her cry about hurting Baekho ever again after that. If you love someone you don't challenge someone else into making you want to chose them. Full stop 😭
Well. I guess I'll be watching this as "the rise and fall of chae hwayoung" she's basically the main character who's actually doing things and making moves. All Jangmi is capable of doing is taking Ls and delivering monologues about how she's gonna get Hwayoung but fails to put her money where her mouth is. Every. Single. Time. Even her method of revenge (marrying Junho) is basically giving Hwayoung what she wants lol
I'm just here for whenever Seorin wakes up and for whatever scheme Baekho and Taepyung pull off next since they seem to be the only characters that got the memo that they're in a revenge drama lol. Taepyung has become a sleeper fave of mine in this drama (as well as Geumsoon!)
I won't mince words: tomorrow's episode looks LAME AF 🤮 Jangmi is an awful FL and sorry not sorry but I'm not at all invested in her facing the consequences of her stupid decisions. I don't even like Baekho like that but all this tip toeing around Baekho's feelings is PMO!!! He's 32 not 13 - he can handle more than you think!