LOL! I get that feeling of frustration but I also concur with those stating that there are layers to their hesitations, even beyond the notion that this may be the first time when either of them might be in a situation where they felt so much for someone else.
For example, it's always been shown that Phupha is also looking at a broader picture. Tian still hasn't completed his studies and Phu may not want to declare his feelings for fear that Tian might not complete his studies if Phupha made the fullness of his love shown. He knows that Tian loves being there and teaching, and he may well be thinking that telling Tian how he feels will limit Tian's potential. It's possible that Phu is expressing his love in a selfless way that puts Tian's future before Phu's own hopes. That would be entirely in character for Phupha.
Phupha clearly has no hesitation in putting his role as a defender of the forest before his own personal happiness. He's also shown before that he truly wants to save those he cares for from pain. It was Phu who decided that they should not tell the villagers that Torfun is dead, because he wanted to save them that sorrow. He may well feel that he would only cause Tian conflict and distress if he were to say something that might take him away from completing his schooling and "fullest" potential.
This also illustrates a flaw in Phupha's character in that he does tend to make decisions for other people on his own. In doing so, he denies those people their agency. As well-intentioned as it might be, was it really his place to withhold Torfun's death from the villagers? We will likely see, in the next episode, how that only compounds the pain of everyone involved.
In not wanting to cause distress for Tian in navigating his future, is Phu denying Tian his agency in knowing the variables and allowing Tian to make those decisions for himself? Sure, Tian is younger than Phu, but Tian is still an adult who can make his own decisions.
None of the above is meant as a slam of Phupha. His heart's in the right place, if you will. It's not uncommon for people to withhold information from someone they care for so as not to hurt them. As a story, though, it's good food-for-thought for viewers to consider how appropriate that might actually be, in their own lives.
For his part, we've seen just how impulsive Tian can be. Sometimes, it's worked out to benefit a situation (like creating a market for the tea sachets) but we've also seen how it can cause jeopardy for himself and others. Running into the burning school, for example, was an incredibly bad idea but it was consistent with Tian's character. As with Phu, Tian's intentions are often well-meant but he sometimes takes action before he thinks about possible outcomes.
It would be a naive oversimplification to merely dismiss this as a feature of Tian's relative youth. People of all ages can be highly impulse-driven and it's not always a bad thing. They can be innovators and creative problem solvers. Just as with Phupha, though, Tian would likely benefit from tempering some of that instinct.
Tian also seems to be coming from a place where he potentially doesn't feel deserving of love, especially Phupha's. It seems that he truly feels directly responsible for Torfun's death. (I think he's been mislead in reaching that conclusion, but we'll see.) Multiple times he's indicated that he went to the village both as an expression of gratitude to Torfun and as an obligation to atone for his self-perceived crime. What's interesting is that he foreshadows his own situation to come when commenting to the Dr that Sakda can't erase his bad deeds with good ones.
All of this, for me, indicates the skill of the screenwriters in presenting this as food-for-thought for the viewers as to how they might want to look at their own behaviours and to indicate that we would all benefit from examining our own motivations and to question, sometimes, if we are making similar "mistakes" without beating us over the head with it in a blunt and overly simple "message."
For a story that is noted for it's simple charm, I really feel that it has depths to explore for those inclined to do so.
Again another lengthy post, but I hope that I was able to illustrate why I think that there are legitimate considerations for why we haven't seen them kiss or 'officially' make themselves a couple. Part of the beauty of it, for me, is that they've demonstrated a lot of the attitudes of behaviour as a loving couple in the last few episodes, anyway. They've shown the care, respect, concern, and consideration in their day-to-day interactions with each other that are expressions of love, whether or not they actually explicitly declare that love...
I wish comment sections of series were like sharing a common point of interest....but no...it's like a trial now.…
I agree with the idea that criticism is a natural response of producing something for the world to see, with any form of work, as is praise; not just this specific series.
100% AGREED!! Their relationship is actually progressing at a very healthy rate.
For myself, I'm OK with the overall pacing but I wouldn't mind some vingettes of them as a couple. and I hope their 'official' getting together won't be the very last scene. I don't need a snogfest or anything like that, as I don't think that would be a good fit for the overall tone. In my dream world, there will be at least one brief, but very tender kiss. Give me a few hugs and a hand in hand stroll, after that and I'll be over the moon.
Realistically, Tian's revelation and ramifications (not just because of the reaction of the villagers but because I don't actually think that Tian really knows the whole picture, himself.. I have some suspicions, there.) can't just play out in 10 minutes and neither can the Sakda issue.
In the last couple of episodes, I feel we've really seen them express all the mutual affection, caring , and support of two people in love: we're just dealing with two men who are inept when it comes to saying the words out loud: lol! (It could even be postulated that Phu found it easier to bear his body to Tian than it would be for him to say those soul-bearing words: I love you.)
I guess I'm trying to say, in a roundabout and sleep-deprived way, that I can see some of the perspectives of those who are completely content with the pacing of the relationship as-is and of those wouldn't mind for the pace of it to pick up,
You might know now I'm not really good at english but I feel so bad for people who dropped or didn't even know…
People drop shows for their own reasons, and I think that's totally fine. I think that, as viewers, what matters is how much we enjoy a story. Different people find different things appealing. I'm ok with not worrying about what others decide for themselves. That's their right and it doesn't effect how much I enjoy something I like. =)
The author is slated to finish the book this summer. It has Tan and Bun, but it's set a few years after MoD and…
Tul's already stated that he's delaying his attendance, due to the pandemic. When he'll be able to go might depend on when things become safer, and how often the courses he wants are offered in an Academic year. I think lots of people would like to see more of Tat and Sorrawit. For me, personally, they're a bit young to appeal to me as leads.
The author is slated to finish the book this summer. It has Tan and Bun, but it's set a few years after MoD and…
I really wish they would. I can't post an actual link to it but I do remember someone saying that TV Thunder is actively looking for another project for Max and Tul, and I first heard about the book sequel while watching an interview with Max and Tul. I'm not saying that I think it's likely but a part of me is still hoping...
To kill the boredom and divert my anxiety waiting for the next teary episode, let's play the alternate casting…
Darn! I can't play because I don't know enough of the GMMTV actors. Maybe I can go look some up... There's gotta be a place for Tay Tawan, though. (He's so sweet!)
I could also just say that Earth and Mix are simply irreplaceable! =D
Dr. Nam has a responsibility to protect his friend - and a responsibility to Tian as his patient, so I don't think…
The only thing a doctor in Canada can look up without a patient's specific permission is their medication and prescription history, to check for allergies and to prevent abuse of prescribed medications. In Canada, it's standard practice for a person to sign ROI forms when they start seeing a new doctor or visit a specialist. The patient does have the right to refuse to sign one, though.
For example, it's always been shown that Phupha is also looking at a broader picture. Tian still hasn't completed his studies and Phu may not want to declare his feelings for fear that Tian might not complete his studies if Phupha made the fullness of his love shown. He knows that Tian loves being there and teaching, and he may well be thinking that telling Tian how he feels will limit Tian's potential. It's possible that Phu is expressing his love in a selfless way that puts Tian's future before Phu's own hopes. That would be entirely in character for Phupha.
Phupha clearly has no hesitation in putting his role as a defender of the forest before his own personal happiness. He's also shown before that he truly wants to save those he cares for from pain. It was Phu who decided that they should not tell the villagers that Torfun is dead, because he wanted to save them that sorrow. He may well feel that he would only cause Tian conflict and distress if he were to say something that might take him away from completing his schooling and "fullest" potential.
This also illustrates a flaw in Phupha's character in that he does tend to make decisions for other people on his own. In doing so, he denies those people their agency. As well-intentioned as it might be, was it really his place to withhold Torfun's death from the villagers? We will likely see, in the next episode, how that only compounds the pain of everyone involved.
In not wanting to cause distress for Tian in navigating his future, is Phu denying Tian his agency in knowing the variables and allowing Tian to make those decisions for himself? Sure, Tian is younger than Phu, but Tian is still an adult who can make his own decisions.
None of the above is meant as a slam of Phupha. His heart's in the right place, if you will. It's not uncommon for people to withhold information from someone they care for so as not to hurt them. As a story, though, it's good food-for-thought for viewers to consider how appropriate that might actually be, in their own lives.
For his part, we've seen just how impulsive Tian can be. Sometimes, it's worked out to benefit a situation (like creating a market for the tea sachets) but we've also seen how it can cause jeopardy for himself and others. Running into the burning school, for example, was an incredibly bad idea but it was consistent with Tian's character. As with Phu, Tian's intentions are often well-meant but he sometimes takes action before he thinks about possible outcomes.
It would be a naive oversimplification to merely dismiss this as a feature of Tian's relative youth. People of all ages can be highly impulse-driven and it's not always a bad thing. They can be innovators and creative problem solvers. Just as with Phupha, though, Tian would likely benefit from tempering some of that instinct.
Tian also seems to be coming from a place where he potentially doesn't feel deserving of love, especially Phupha's. It seems that he truly feels directly responsible for Torfun's death. (I think he's been mislead in reaching that conclusion, but we'll see.) Multiple times he's indicated that he went to the village both as an expression of gratitude to Torfun and as an obligation to atone for his self-perceived crime. What's interesting is that he foreshadows his own situation to come when commenting to the Dr that Sakda can't erase his bad deeds with good ones.
All of this, for me, indicates the skill of the screenwriters in presenting this as food-for-thought for the viewers as to how they might want to look at their own behaviours and to indicate that we would all benefit from examining our own motivations and to question, sometimes, if we are making similar "mistakes" without beating us over the head with it in a blunt and overly simple "message."
For a story that is noted for it's simple charm, I really feel that it has depths to explore for those inclined to do so.
Again another lengthy post, but I hope that I was able to illustrate why I think that there are legitimate considerations for why we haven't seen them kiss or 'officially' make themselves a couple. Part of the beauty of it, for me, is that they've demonstrated a lot of the attitudes of behaviour as a loving couple in the last few episodes, anyway. They've shown the care, respect, concern, and consideration in their day-to-day interactions with each other that are expressions of love, whether or not they actually explicitly declare that love...
Realistically, Tian's revelation and ramifications (not just because of the reaction of the villagers but because I don't actually think that Tian really knows the whole picture, himself.. I have some suspicions, there.) can't just play out in 10 minutes and neither can the Sakda issue.
In the last couple of episodes, I feel we've really seen them express all the mutual affection, caring , and support of two people in love: we're just dealing with two men who are inept when it comes to saying the words out loud: lol! (It could even be postulated that Phu found it easier to bear his body to Tian than it would be for him to say those soul-bearing words: I love you.)
I guess I'm trying to say, in a roundabout and sleep-deprived way, that I can see some of the perspectives of those who are completely content with the pacing of the relationship as-is and of those wouldn't mind for the pace of it to pick up,
(I've been rewatching the episodes all day)
(j/k, jpny: "You know I love you more than my luggage!" You've said that we're of similar ages, so I hope you get the reference. =D )
I could also just say that Earth and Mix are simply irreplaceable! =D