Everyone of us is flawed in many regards. This is the human condition. It is those who seek out and face their…
I must agree here. I can get behind a flawed protagonist who works toward their own betterment. However, when a protagonist is so flawed and broken that the show becomes a celebration of bad choices in behaviour, as this one did for me (The number of episodes is too brief, to me, for anything much more than sensationalism although I respect that other people feel differently) I can't get into it. I just didn't see enough pros to these protagonists to care about them, anymore...
I'm going to repost, here, the comment I made on the shows YouTube page:
"Dear Max and Tul, You don't need to thank us. We thank you for the gift you've given us over the past 6 years of your collaboration. You've not only entertained us and moved us but you've also consistently spread a message of love and acceptance for LGBTQ+ people in society. You have made merit for people who can still face ignorance, stigma, marginalisation, and hatred through your work and your statements.
I doubt that either of you thought about the impact that you could have the day you auditioned for Bad Romance, and the lives of LGBTQ+ people might not have even been something that you'd ever considered, back then. What you've done, since then, speaks to the kindness and empathy that you both possess. We may not see the two of you perform together again, (although I'm still hoping for one last project) but we will never forget the work you've done, both in acting and in advocacy. You have not just my admiration for your skills... you have also earned my respect for you as people.
Sincere gratitude, (a few tears) and best wishes to you both in your future endeavours, from a fan in Canada. =)"
I really do think that these two have formed an enduring bond of friendship/brotherhood and I think that we, as viewers, have received a real gift in their fearless performances.
As for this show, itself, I'm not going to lie: I found some of the execution of it a little cheesy but I really appreciated them sharing their sentiments and that was what mattered for me, in the end.
I really really want to enjoy this drama but all these sound effects really annoy the fu*k out of me...Am gonna…
The director has apparently received enough feedback on the SFX that he might curtail them for later episodes. I found that Eps. 2 and 3 already did cut back on them from ep 1...
LINETV Taiwan aired a different cut from everyone else. Nobody knows why but they're the only market that got…
What had me puzzled was why those tidbits appeared in the Taiwan broadcast but nowhere else. It's not as if they were controversial. The last of the three, especially, enhanced the story, for me. I still have no idea, unless there was more of a time constraint on most of the platforms... (Maybe one more product promotional insert on most platforms than for Taiwan?)
It was hilarious how the panelists recreated the scene, themselves!
Because I have such a limited knowledge of the Thai entertainment scene, I'm going to admit that I thought that Gun and the guy he was appearing with were a couple! The way they interacted with one another gave off that vibe, to me!
Only later did I do a little searching to find out that Gun is straight and has been romantically linked with at least one woman, in the past. Oops! LOL!
I wish comment sections of series were like sharing a common point of interest....but no...it's like a trial now.…
Agreed. I also agree with Robin that it's ok to refute opinions (positive or negative), as long as we keep it about the opinions themselves and not the people posting them. That's where board rules start being broken.
We've all had heated exchanges with someone online before, but we should be trying to keep our exchanges focused on the opinions expressed.
LOL! I get that feeling of frustration but I also concur with those stating that there are layers to their hesitations,…
We tend to love redemption arcs because they can provide hope and inspiration for our own betterment when we have lost our way. They illustrate that we can make mistakes, yet can also make amends for them, once we take ownership of our mistakes...
Personally, I love that you comb Twitter and that you share some of your finds, here. I don't suppose you have a link for that post?
Another tale of dislikable people that I'm supposed to be impressed by for it's 'complexity' and 'realism'...
Nope. At 53, I think they're just d[@ks to one degree or another. I don't want to celebrate selfishly motivated, unkind, and uncaring life choices in lead characters. Dropped.
The author is slated to finish the book this summer. It has Tan and Bun, but it's set a few years after MoD and…
I copied this from a post to the MaxTul Extended Journey YouTube page:
"accdg to P'Nui (it's on twitter), they still have another upcoming project as confirmed by the Executive producer of MOD in the Clubhouse meeting with P'Sammon (author of MOD)"
LOL! I get that feeling of frustration but I also concur with those stating that there are layers to their hesitations,…
Thank you again. I can only say that my interest in human motivation started a long time ago and lead me to a career in psychiatric nursing. You could say that I'm predisposed to delving into people, both real and fictional: lol!
LOL! I get that feeling of frustration but I also concur with those stating that there are layers to their hesitations,…
Thanks very much for the compliment. I haven't read the book, myself, and these are only my impressions and opinions. I'm glad you've enjoyed reading them...
Dropped. A Iot of potential tarnished by fatuous acting and irrelevant development... especiaIIy in regard of…
First, as a retired gay nurse, I can emphathise with your disappointments in regards to the medical aspects of this series: particularly the notion that Tian's parents used influence and money for him to jump the recipient queue and Dr Nam's actions in the last episode. In Canada, (where I am from) there are consent documents that Tian would have had to signed off on for Dr Nam to access any of Tian's prior medical charts/documentation.
Even with that, obtaining information about the organ donation, itself would be a confidentiality violation because the donor is deceased. (At that point, Dr Nam doesn't have a leg to stand on by saying that he's only checking on it now. He may have been Torfun's primary care GP, but she's already dead.)
These two things, alone, could lead to Dr Nam's dismissal as well as those who supplied him the information.
Should the show go so far as to show Dr Nam disclosing any of this to Phupha would not just likely get him dismissed, in real life, but also likely result in the loss of his ability to practice and open him up to potential litigation.
People without a background in our professions may well not understand just how stringently confidentiality and conflict-of-interest matters are viewed and handled. It was poor writing for the sake of dramatic tension, in that last episode. I don't personally view it as an insult to our professions but I can understand that, given your other feelings about the show, it was the final straw, for you.
For myself, what I can say is that I've really enjoyed this series. At 53, I've never seen any work that has the charm of a fairytale romance between two men. I feel that that's the spirit the show makers want to impart. Even the name of the series alludes to a certain fairytale quality.
I've also really enjoyed how the show has handled things like jealousy and acceptance. Phupha's jealousy over Tian and Longtae's friendship isn't leading Phupha to lash out cruelly at Phupha, and I chuckled when he sulked a bit with Dr Nam, because I could see myself doing something like that.
Tul's conversation with Tian about acceptance really countered some of the, for me, most irritating and tone-deaf tropes in BL: the whole "I'm not gay, I only like him," the bizarre notion that Tian only feels this way because he has Torfun's heart in him and so on. Further, I love that Phu's colleagues don't really bat an eye at Phupha's orientation (they'd tease him, at times, to the same degree, if Phu was str8 and they were talking about a woman: it might be very common to tease like that in Thai culture)
I've been touched to the point of tears a number of times in this series, so I can't agree that it's been fatuous but I'm not arguing your right to view it that way.
For me, this is a tender an touching tale that I think has the potential to be viewed as an affirmation to young people struggling with themselves and dealing with censure and/or rejection at home. Maybe a highly marginalised young person can draw some hope and comfort from this.
I can enjoy gritty and uncomfortable realism in drama but I don't want a sole diet of that. Especially with the pandemic raging around us all, I've really appreciated what this show has offered and I'm personally very fond of it.
I can only imagine the difficulties you may be dealing with everyday in your practice these days, Doctor, and I wish you well both for yourself and for those who rely on you for their care.
"Dear Max and Tul, You don't need to thank us. We thank you for the gift you've given us over the past 6 years of your collaboration. You've not only entertained us and moved us but you've also consistently spread a message of love and acceptance for LGBTQ+ people in society. You have made merit for people who can still face ignorance, stigma, marginalisation, and hatred through your work and your statements.
I doubt that either of you thought about the impact that you could have the day you auditioned for Bad Romance, and the lives of LGBTQ+ people might not have even been something that you'd ever considered, back then. What you've done, since then, speaks to the kindness and empathy that you both possess. We may not see the two of you perform together again, (although I'm still hoping for one last project) but we will never forget the work you've done, both in acting and in advocacy. You have not just my admiration for your skills... you have also earned my respect for you as people.
Sincere gratitude, (a few tears) and best wishes to you both in your future endeavours, from a fan in Canada. =)"
I really do think that these two have formed an enduring bond of friendship/brotherhood and I think that we, as viewers, have received a real gift in their fearless performances.
As for this show, itself, I'm not going to lie: I found some of the execution of it a little cheesy but I really appreciated them sharing their sentiments and that was what mattered for me, in the end.
Because I have such a limited knowledge of the Thai entertainment scene, I'm going to admit that I thought that Gun and the guy he was appearing with were a couple! The way they interacted with one another gave off that vibe, to me!
Only later did I do a little searching to find out that Gun is straight and has been romantically linked with at least one woman, in the past. Oops! LOL!
We've all had heated exchanges with someone online before, but we should be trying to keep our exchanges focused on the opinions expressed.
Personally, I love that you comb Twitter and that you share some of your finds, here. I don't suppose you have a link for that post?
Nope. At 53, I think they're just d[@ks to one degree or another. I don't want to celebrate selfishly motivated, unkind, and uncaring life choices in lead characters. Dropped.
"accdg to P'Nui (it's on twitter), they still have another upcoming project as confirmed by the Executive producer of MOD in the Clubhouse meeting with P'Sammon (author of MOD)"
Even with that, obtaining information about the organ donation, itself would be a confidentiality violation because the donor is deceased. (At that point, Dr Nam doesn't have a leg to stand on by saying that he's only checking on it now. He may have been Torfun's primary care GP, but she's already dead.)
These two things, alone, could lead to Dr Nam's dismissal as well as those who supplied him the information.
Should the show go so far as to show Dr Nam disclosing any of this to Phupha would not just likely get him dismissed, in real life, but also likely result in the loss of his ability to practice and open him up to potential litigation.
People without a background in our professions may well not understand just how stringently confidentiality and conflict-of-interest matters are viewed and handled. It was poor writing for the sake of dramatic tension, in that last episode. I don't personally view it as an insult to our professions but I can understand that, given your other feelings about the show, it was the final straw, for you.
For myself, what I can say is that I've really enjoyed this series. At 53, I've never seen any work that has the charm of a fairytale romance between two men. I feel that that's the spirit the show makers want to impart. Even the name of the series alludes to a certain fairytale quality.
I've also really enjoyed how the show has handled things like jealousy and acceptance. Phupha's jealousy over Tian and Longtae's friendship isn't leading Phupha to lash out cruelly at Phupha, and I chuckled when he sulked a bit with Dr Nam, because I could see myself doing something like that.
Tul's conversation with Tian about acceptance really countered some of the, for me, most irritating and tone-deaf tropes in BL: the whole "I'm not gay, I only like him,"
the bizarre notion that Tian only feels this way because he has Torfun's heart in him and so on. Further, I love that Phu's colleagues don't really bat an eye at Phupha's orientation (they'd tease him, at times, to the same degree, if Phu was str8 and they were talking about a woman: it might be very common to tease like that in Thai culture)
I've been touched to the point of tears a number of times in this series, so I can't agree that it's been fatuous but I'm not arguing your right to view it that way.
For me, this is a tender an touching tale that I think has the potential to be viewed as an affirmation to young people struggling with themselves and dealing with censure and/or rejection at home. Maybe a highly marginalised young person can draw some hope and comfort from this.
I can enjoy gritty and uncomfortable realism in drama but I don't want a sole diet of that. Especially with the pandemic raging around us all, I've really appreciated what this show has offered and I'm personally very fond of it.
I can only imagine the difficulties you may be dealing with everyday in your practice these days, Doctor, and I wish you well both for yourself and for those who rely on you for their care.