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Unfortunately, there is a core of the BL fanbase (usually pre teen and teenage girls) that will excoriate a series if they don't get sufficient amounts of "cute" moments between the lead pairings. They can be quite fanatical about it, going after actors, directors, etc on social media...

A murder mystery was a departure within the genre, as a whole. The bulk of them are university-set romances or romcoms, and a lot of them are real dogs: trope laden and formulaic and with acting far worse than what you see in this show. As I posted before, instead of Manner of Death, people have been served a diet of shows that could easily be titled Done to Death...

Interestingly, the director, Ma-Deaw Chookiat Sakveerakul, supposedly has quite the reputation in Thai drama and cinema. It was considered a bit of a coup to get him onto this project.

Regardless, it doesn't work for everyone. Based on what you've said to date, I honestly don't think it will grow on you anymore, at this point. Of course, that's up to you but, to me, life's to short to continue with something you're not enjoying: lol!

I hear you. If that kiss comes, this 53 year old man will squeal like a 13 year old girl. That's how well I feel they've executed this. Of course, tomorrow's episode is going to feel like a gut-punch, first...

I agree that writing often has a fairly straightforward narrative that the writer wants to tell, but good writing, whether it be for novel, TV, or film, also give us food-for-thought. When I can walk out of a movie, or read a book, or watch a show that has me conversing with friends for hours afterwards about its themes, that's a hallmark of good writing, and I've felt that way with this series.

I completely agree with everything you've said about depicting the fullness of same sex relationships. As a 53 year old gay man, I'm well aware of those components of a relationship.

From the outset of his series, though, I've felt that the writers had in mind the idea of presenting this tale in an almost fairytale manner. Even the title alludes to that fairytale aspect: we have everything from Ghost Hill, to beliefs in Shamanism, to auspicious days, to the wishing on the 1000 stars on the last night of the year, to set that tone. Along with that comes a somewhat non-explicit approach to things. That would apply equally if the 2 leads were a man and a woman or two women.

What I was saying is that, given that tone, I can be OK if they don't delve too far into Phu and Tian's physical intimacy. It would be consistent with the overall tone of the piece. An intensely shot romantic interlude in the style of a Max Tul scene would be out of tone with the work, as a whole. If the whole story had been framed in a more intensely dramatic fashion, then I'd expect that same level of intensity to the romantic aspects of the tale and I'd be disappointed if I didn't get it.

I hope I've been able to better expand on that point, for you.

I also agree that it would be hugely disappointing go that "sadder but wiser" route that you mentioned. It would feel like a huge letdown, given how much build up they've focused on.

I'm watching 1000 Stars as it's released right now and have dropped this series and Lovely Writer. I'm also watching ITSAY for the first time. My favourite series, to date, have been 1000 Stars, Manner of Death, Grey Rainbows, Together With Me, Dark Blue Kiss, Red Balloon, and The Effect. I tend to have different tastes for series than cinema. In film, I veer much more into intense drama. You?

I agree that those were two really worthwhile messages in the episode.

I don't know how many episodes you've watched but I'd offer that if it's been more than three, then this show might not be your cup of tea. I've disliked series other people have lauded. It's no real biggie. Our appreciations are subjective but if your suspension of disbelief has been shattered, I've found that it's almost impossible to recover that. Enjoyment of any piece of fiction relies on us to maintain that suspension of disbelief in order to work for us.

The BL genre does place a high value on it's male leads. I think it's true that some fans of the Max Tul pairing came into the show with a predisposal to enjoy it. That said, (I watched it as each episode was released), some Max Tul fans didn't enjoy the show much and others who were unfamiliar with the pair loved it.

In the story, there might well be reasons why some questions aren't being asked by some people; it's part of the bigger picture. Again, though, if you've seen a few episodes and aren't into it, then you're not into it. =)

I don't think so, but I could be wrong.

Exactly. It could have easily fit into the intro scene but they didn't bother. *Shrug*

To me, no, it wasn't. No "I shouldn't have said that," no apology, nothing. It was pretty obvious that Sib liked Gene, anyway, so I don't see that as being any sort of conclusion. That's only how it felt, for me. You seem to enjoy it, and good for you. Have fun with the rest of it.

They didn't go the vomit and forget everything route after the drunk scene, but they went on without Gene so much as acknowledging his outburst from the end of last week. Dissapointing...

So, no follow up on the hurtful outburst from the end of last week's episode and toilet bowl humour, complete with SFX, instead. Fini.

LOL! That's not my call to make. ;-)

I've decided to stop watching because I just don't really care about them, anymore. The narrative has lost me.

Hope you enjoy, it, though. =)

I've only watched the 1 st episode, so far. Did this show have a bigger operating budget than the average series? It's beautifully shot. So far, its good but a bit... overwrought?

We shall see, if he's not already heading back before the episode ends... =(

This is the film Kill Bill wants to be when it grows up...

Despite being made 22 years ago, this film continues to rank time and again as one of the most disturbing movies ever made. It's not for the faint-hearted.

It's not easy for me to comment on this series, as I was in a very similar situation to Yuki's back in my early 20s (now almost 30 years ago)...

The guy I was with couldn't get over his own internalised self-loathing and his desire for that 'normal' life. Not all that long after he and I had broken up, I heard through the grapevine that he had married the girl who had first introduced us to each other. (She and I were work colleagues for a time.)

About 7 years, later, he called me up out of the blue. He tearfully described how sorry he was, how he had made a cowardly and selfish mistake, and that he hoped that I would give him another chance. I had to tell him that it was too late for a second chance, as I was only a week away from marrying my former husband.

Even if I hadn't been with someone else, I would have turned him down, and I said so. I told him I forgave him, but that my trust in him had been damaged beyond repair and that I hoped he never repeated that mistake with anyone else, ever again.

Ultimately, I can only say that I found this tale moving but I think that the outcome would be the rare exception in situations like this...

Indeed! As soon as I see that School Rangers Part 2 is up, I'll link it =)

Other than Tian telling the villagers, en masse, that Torfun is dead and that he is responsible (I think/hope that he's been mislead in that regard) and being rejected for it [even by Phu :( ] , I don't know... it's going to be gut-wrenching...