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I was bullied as well. The main thing is that it is not our place to tell other victims how they should deal with these kinds of matters. We do not know the nature and extent of what they go through, We do not have that right.

This has been addressed many times in many posts. Please feel free to have a look.

It's the outcome that works best for all of the other actors and crew to keep the series alive.

It may be. Unlike something that is shot in Bangkok, they can't just pop up to Chiang Rai and shoot more. (The filming required extensive logistics. Most of the villages houses were actually Ks and Ks apart. They had to use power generators, etc.) For all we know, Tian's little house may have already been taken down. :(

Please consider the message you might be sending, here

Maya, I'm a 53 year old retired psychiatric nurse and I've had a lot of direct experience in working with people, including both criminals and victims. Ideally, family members do stick by and support their loved ones. Again, though, depending on what someone has done, I have seen families completely disconnect from people because they just cannot live with what the person did. There is no point in trying to make them support the person. We don't have that right.

For every one of those videos you have seen where people do nothing, I could spend hours offering you personal/professional/on the web examples that also show acts of caring and intervention: I just don't have the energy to type out another thesis, right now. (LOL)

As for leaving things in the past, they can only be left in the past once they've been addressed and settled. Otherwise, they aren't truly in the past and can come back at anytime. That is the reality of the situation whether we personally approve of it or not.

Have a good night.

QUOTE from Maya: "It doesn't matter if there just your just a fan of someone famous or especially when it comes to someone you love like family/friends. It doesn't matter if the world or anyone turn against them as long as you stay true and support them through hardships and there wrongdoings even if there wrong It's about whose being true and loyal to you when it comes to hard times like this. Even if it's wrong of him in the first place,"

What you wrote here implies is that the only thing that matters is staying true and supporting people through hardships even if the world turns against them. Even if they were wrong in the first place. That is much too simple and broad. Choosing to stay true (as you put it) and supporting someone who has done something wrong is a choice people have the right to make for themselves and many people will make their choice based, in part, on what was done by the person.

When someone does something that involves abusing positions of power and/or privilege, psychical violence and/or sexual violence, the natural instinct of most people is for that person to be seriously punished because something that all of those things have in common is that the person doing them thinks they are special somehow and that the rules of behaviour do not apply to them. In short, they are a threat to society because they cannot be trusted to respect the basic rights others have to things like personal safety. If the person does not go through some sort of formalized process of punishment and (later) consistently demonstrate that they have changed their ways, most people will shun them.

QUOTE from Maya:"If they were to just be non-celebrity nobody would of made it a big deal"

This is incorrect. The people directly involved would certainly care whether the person was a celebrity or not.

Further, look at just about any news broadcast around the world and you will see people who were once unknown to most other people become instantly known for the crimes they committed. It's the crimes in the previous paragraph that can put someone on a whole city's or country's notice, for the reasons I tried to describe.

Last. Anyone who chooses to put themselves into the public's attention whether it's through choosing a career in sports, acting, politics, etc. should realize that they are at risk of having their actions, both past and present, scrutinised publicly. That is part of the price of influence, fame, recognition, success, and wealth. If they had skeletons in their closets, they should have dealt with them before they started to climb the ladders of celebrity. If they didn't deal with them, they were either stupid or arrogant. In most cases where this happens, the people were found out to be arrogant because, again, they didn't think that the rules applied to them and they thought they could get away with what they did.

I'm not trying to put you down at all, Maya. I'm just trying to give a full explanation for why I can't agree with what you and others have written.

A healthy perspective does not place actors who we do not personally know and who do not know us in the same category as our friends and family. Period.

I'm very happy to see that you've posted this here, as well. =)

I agree with your rationale.

So well written. Thank you for this, and I couldn't agree more.

You may feel that way, but you are making statements about the motivations of the accusers using deliberately inflammatory language.Again, I strongly encourage you to tone it down.

EDIT TO ADD: I'm sorry but a number of your posts have been phrased in ways that are very insensitive and quite possibly offensive to not only the accusers in Ji Soo's case but to victims of abuse, in general. I have decided to report them.

Your're crossing lines into reportable behaviour. You are free to have your opinion but seem to be deliberately using inflammatory language to do so. I encourage you to tone it down.

QUOTE from JIn Yu KI "Well cry me a river, there are a lot of victims of bullying who never got to settle things w their bullies. It’s just a whole sob story and they really need to move on. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve been bullied before too and know what it’s like. But have my bullies ever apologized to me? No. Does it matter now? Certainly not."

Cry you a river? I think not. We went around this yesterday. You seem to be posting for attention's sake.

And I want them: Dammit! XD

They only seem to available for shipping within Thailand, though. If any Thai member would be willing for me to send them money for ordering and later shipping, please message me through my profile page and we can talk about additional compensation for it.

To me, sexiness is a subjective thing. Base attraction is usually derived from physical appearances but I think that there are other factors that can either enhance or detract from that.

For example, Phu. I find Earth very attractive, physically. (He ties, for me, with Max Nattapol as BL's most physically stunning men) What enhances his sexiness as Phu, though, are some of Phu's personality traits. Phu is sincere. Phu is principled and dedicated. Phu is quietly sensitive. Phu puts others before himself. Phu's also a bit awkward with his own wants and needs because he's so used to placing others before himself. When I add those things up with his base looks, I find Phu HELLA sexy!

But that's just me! :D

None of the accusations should be taken lightly, Was he charged just recently? I had not read anything about that. The last I'd read, his agency had issued a statement denying the sexual accusation but conceding the bullying ones, which included beatings. If so, one would hope that people stop trying to support Ji Soo and await the trial.

Actual charges would not be pressed by the authorities unless they thought they had some convincing evidence.

To keep it simple: First, you'd be asking a person who's been victimized to approach the situation with a cool detachment that's wildly unrealistic. Also, putting the onus on the victim to handle things privately places a burden on them that they do not deserve. Further, that private approach would only allow the abuser their perfect opportunity to intimidate the victim all over again and keep them silent. Abusers counted on their ability to install and reinforce fear in their victims to keep them silent in the first place.

What is the more likely outcome of an abuser approaching their abuser privately? That the abuser will have a nice chat with the victim and they stroll off to the police station together for the abuser to confess and turn themselves in or that the abuser intimidates and bullies the victim into further silence?

I apologise for being blunt but on behalf of people who've be victimised I must say that it's a terrible and potentially dangerous idea.

I understand how you feel. My interest has been killed off by the radical and backward, IMO, changes in character.

Their characters, to me, took massive steps backward. I really disliked it.