What happened to your friend is truly awful and I hope that the people responsible were charged and convicted.
Historically and statistically, though, I think you probably know it is far more often the victims who are not believed.
I largely agree that people should be given a chance after they've served their time for their crimes. That, though, can have some exceptions. In my country, anyone convicted of sexual crimes is registered as a sex offender with police for the rest of their lives, even if they have left prison. They often have to report where they live with police. They are subject to regular meetings, they cannot move or take a job without permission, and any neighbourhood has to be notified when someone on the registry move into their area. They can be barred from living in certain areas. So, in some ways, those people are never really able to escape their past.
Hopefully we can both understand each other a bit better now. At the start of this, I was challenging your statements because, in English, they were very black and white, very absolute. It took some time to be able to get more understanding. I'm not trying to pick on your English skills, I'm just trying to suggest that you might want to practice a little more so that it doesn't com off as blunt and absolute. Words and phrases like "anyone" "everyone" "no matter what" mean you intend for what you say to apply to all people all the time in every situation. That can lead to misunderstandings and confrontations. Have a good night.
I think I get more of what you are trying to say, now. I'm a retired psychiatric nurse and I've worked with convicted people, too. I also worked with people who have been the victims of crimes.
People should absolutely have a change to learn from their mistakes and not have them haunt them for the rest of their lives. But by the time you or I work with them, they have already been sentenced and are serving or have served their sentence.
If you work with inmates you know that an important part of their journey to a better future is that they have had time and have gone through the work to truly take responsibility for their actions.
In Ji Soo's case, he's only at the start of that process. Not at the end. (Given South Korea's history with such things, he probably won't even go to jail.) His future is not over because of these accusations, but it will take time and effort by Ji Soo to be able to convince many others that he truly regrets what he did. One letter simply isn't going to be enough.
The way you wrote it before you edited it was written to say that.
QUOTE: "I’m saying it doesn’t matter who did what In the past even if there murders they did there crimes and times. "
That changes the topic from someone who committed murder in the past and had never been held accountable to someone who has already been punished. Again, I think there may be a language problem. I'll just say that what you are posting might be different from what you intend it to mean. That can lead to people challenging your written opinion.
I can't agree with what you posted below. Even if it was an accidental killing or if it was done in self defence, it can't just be left alone because the person didn't want to remember it. If that was the case, then everyone who kills people for a sick pleasure would claim that and be off the hook instantly. Sorry.
Sorry but "Miss perfect" is actually name calling. (For the record, though; I'm obviously not perfect because no human is nor am I a miss.)
Maybe this is a language problem. The way this sentence "And also it doesn’t matter what or who did something wrong In the past. Like I said not everyone wants to remember the past" reads says that you believe that a murderer shouldn't be held responsible if they had gotten away with it for a while and didn't want to remember it. Does that help?
I think that very much depends on what the person did that they are trying to forget from their past. If you want to call me more names for pointing out something that's pretty obvious to most people, go right ahead.
Maya, I don't have anything against you personally but I will comment that it doesn't make sense that people should be excused for things they've done in the past just because they don't want to remember them.
I'm actually surprised at how many people don't like this. I guess I went in with very low expectations so I'm…
That might make a difference. I expected the show to parody the more problematic aspects of the BL industry and was looking forward to it. I just find that it's gone overboard with it and is being done in such an zany, cutesy, almost slapstick way that it is problematic, itself. (It's so over the top that it's undermining the parodies from having any message) I've been thinking about it and what I'm hoping to see is that they'll keep dialing back the cutesy metre and give it more gravitas as things become more complex.
I don't think that was child labor per say. It was more of a community project for all. It wasn't just the kids…
Sorry, but I have to ask if it was really necessary include the bits about SJWs and the wringing of hands? This person seemed to ask for feedback in a fairly innocuous way... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
hello does this have a lot of graphic scenes? like blood and stuff like that because i am very triggered by that.…
It is a murder mystery and there are shootings, blood, and characters dying on screen> I can't quantify what you might or not consider to be "a lot." If that kind of thing is triggering for you, though, I would suggest that you err on the side of caution and give it a pass. No show is worth causing yourself distress.
Okay so I've read a few comments on here and all I can say is that, while it is true that bullying is a serious…
Truthfully, I think that what Ji Soo was did was repulsive and merits serious consequences and I don't feel badly for him in having to step out of the limelight for a few years. That said, I also hope that he will be able to eventually make something better of himself. That will only have a chance of becoming a reality if he truly accepts full responsibility in his heart and does all he possibly can to make amends. One handwritten letter is not going to achieve that. He is only at the beginning of that journey.
Ji soo has denied the sexual allegations and apparently the person who made them has admitted they lied... i saw…
You may think only one way for the victims to go about this is OK but but those with real world experience working with victims of abuse know that you don't have any right or validity to decide that for them.
Because a bunch of bunnies with a strong inferiority complex waited 15 years for revenge against Ji-Soo. And in…
Ah, a new day.
Quote:"In the name of what should we avoid using direct words? Ah, but I know. Even using very soft words, as soft as possible, even that, telling my truth, would still be too much for you. Even then, you would go crazy and would want to forbid any answer. I know them well, people like you. They never disappoint me by their predictability."
Telling your truth? As you have done before, you reveal yourself. The claim that you speak some noble truth is the truly sophist bit of projection that's going on. Your "truth" is more accurately described as an opinion.
Quote:"You just can't stand people thinking differently than you do, that's all!"
And more of the same. Maybe you're just in denial because you're a fan of the actor. I don't know. Hopefully, you will be able to come to a place of acceptance. In the meanwhile, though, you shouldn't be surprised if people challenge you when you engage in attacking the motivations of his accusers, especially with some of the language you have used.
Ultimately, I think that what Ji Soo was did was repulsive and merits serious consequences and I don't feel badly for him in having to step out of the limelight for a few years. That said, I also hope that he will be able to eventually make something better of himself. That will only have a chance of becoming a reality if he truly accepts full responsibility in his heart and does all he possibly can to make amends. One handwritten letter is not going to achieve that. He is only at the beginning of that journey.
Historically and statistically, though, I think you probably know it is far more often the victims who are not believed.
I largely agree that people should be given a chance after they've served their time for their crimes. That, though, can have some exceptions. In my country, anyone convicted of sexual crimes is registered as a sex offender with police for the rest of their lives, even if they have left prison. They often have to report where they live with police. They are subject to regular meetings, they cannot move or take a job without permission, and any neighbourhood has to be notified when someone on the registry move into their area. They can be barred from living in certain areas. So, in some ways, those people are never really able to escape their past.
Hopefully we can both understand each other a bit better now. At the start of this, I was challenging your statements because, in English, they were very black and white, very absolute. It took some time to be able to get more understanding. I'm not trying to pick on your English skills, I'm just trying to suggest that you might want to practice a little more so that it doesn't com off as blunt and absolute. Words and phrases like "anyone" "everyone" "no matter what" mean you intend for what you say to apply to all people all the time in every situation. That can lead to misunderstandings and confrontations. Have a good night.
People should absolutely have a change to learn from their mistakes and not have them haunt them for the rest of their lives. But by the time you or I work with them, they have already been sentenced and are serving or have served their sentence.
If you work with inmates you know that an important part of their journey to a better future is that they have had time and have gone through the work to truly take responsibility for their actions.
In Ji Soo's case, he's only at the start of that process. Not at the end. (Given South Korea's history with such things, he probably won't even go to jail.) His future is not over because of these accusations, but it will take time and effort by Ji Soo to be able to convince many others that he truly regrets what he did. One letter simply isn't going to be enough.
QUOTE: "I’m saying it doesn’t matter who did what In the past even if there murders they did there crimes and times. "
That changes the topic from someone who committed murder in the past and had never been held accountable to someone who has already been punished. Again, I think there may be a language problem. I'll just say that what you are posting might be different from what you intend it to mean. That can lead to people challenging your written opinion.
Maybe this is a language problem. The way this sentence "And also it doesn’t matter what or who did something wrong In the past. Like I said not everyone wants to remember the past" reads says that you believe that a murderer shouldn't be held responsible if they had gotten away with it for a while and didn't want to remember it. Does that help?
The consequences Ji Soo is facing may not be acceptable to you, but (particularly for his victims) it thankfully isn't up to you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Quote:"In the name of what should we avoid using direct words? Ah, but I know. Even using very soft words, as soft as possible, even that, telling my truth, would still be too much for you.
Even then, you would go crazy and would want to forbid any answer. I know them well, people like you. They never disappoint me by their predictability."
Telling your truth? As you have done before, you reveal yourself. The claim that you speak some noble truth is the truly sophist bit of projection that's going on. Your "truth" is more accurately described as an opinion.
Quote:"You just can't stand people thinking differently than you do, that's all!"
And more of the same. Maybe you're just in denial because you're a fan of the actor. I don't know. Hopefully, you will be able to come to a place of acceptance. In the meanwhile, though, you shouldn't be surprised if people challenge you when you engage in attacking the motivations of his accusers, especially with some of the language you have used.
Ultimately, I think that what Ji Soo was did was repulsive and merits serious consequences and I don't feel badly for him in having to step out of the limelight for a few years. That said, I also hope that he will be able to eventually make something better of himself. That will only have a chance of becoming a reality if he truly accepts full responsibility in his heart and does all he possibly can to make amends. One handwritten letter is not going to achieve that. He is only at the beginning of that journey.