I personally respectfully disagree (since we all have different ways in which we can interpret things) I believe…
In a perfect world, a second installment might pay a bit more attention to Phupha. I felt that Phupha was explored but, like the character himself, in was low-key in nature. It wasn't to the same degree as Tian's
I would say that even Tian acknowledged that much of what he did while in the village was about honouring what…
I agree that Tian wanted to liberate himself from his family's control. Thaat wasn't the sole reason he went to teach, though. He felt he had an obligation to Torfun. That's a big part of it.
I also agree that his parents, most definitely his mother, are more concerned about appearances.
Tian did state that he was proud that he could do things he didn't think he could do.
Tian's entire journey in this tale is about redemption and forgiveness. Redemption for the way he frittered away his life before his transplant and extending forgiveness toward himself by accepting that he was worthy of that second chance. That was a process, though, and he was evasive and dishonest along the way. You forgave him for that, right?
It's unfortunate that you can't extend forgiveness to Phupha. He wasn't perfect. Both he and Tian made mistakes. One of the things I think the story is trying to tell us that forgiveness should be extended as far as we can.
I would say that even Tian acknowledged that much of what he did while in the village was about honouring what…
I hear what you're saying but I guess that I interpret it differently.
I felt that Tian's initial rationale to leave home was twofold: he wanted to honour his self-perceived debt to Torfun and to escape his controlling home life. It took time for him being in the village to actually appreciate the things that money can't buy. I don't know that he had that awareness, beforehand.
As for his parents, that a reflection of the truism that parents in a number of Asian cultures, including Thailand, have a great deal of influence in the lives of their children, even their adult children. it might seem very strange to those of us outside of those cultures but it is a facet of Thai culture.
With Phupha, I see it as a twofold matter, as well. Yes, he wants Tian to move beyond living his life for Torfun but he also is someone who has a long history of stifling his own needs and want for higher purposes. Thai culture also puts a fair emphasis on material wealth and achievement.
Combine those things, and Phupha becomes very likely to want to discourage Tian from giving up his potential to be with a lowly state officer like himself. Phupha can also be very stubborn. In saying this, I'm not saying that I feel that Phupha was 100% right in what he did, but I'm looking more at why he did it.
In the end, Phupha realises that he was mistaken: otherwise he wouldn't have gone to the airport to ask Tian if Tian could forget about what Phupha asked him to previously forget about. (Tongue-twister!) I don't see malicious intent in what Phupha did. That's why I don't see it as manipulative. Misguided? Quite possibly, but not manipulative. When Tian asks Phupha if he'll wait for him. Phupha says he'll wait as long as it takes. There was a fundamental shift in Phupha from that meeting at the airport, onward. Just as Tian grew and developed, so did Phupha, in my opinion.
I'm genuinely questioning if we watched the same series honestly. Everyone is raving about this and it just..wasn't…
I would say that even Tian acknowledged that much of what he did while in the village was about honouring what he felt was his debt to Torfun, to ease his sense of guilt. That's why he was so upset about not being able to count the thousand stars. I feel that Phupha was trying to say to Tian that he had to stop living for Torfun and live for himself. He felt that Tian needed to leave the village and get a taste of his possibilities rather than just give everything up to be with him. Tian had demonstrated his impulsivity on a number of ocassions and even Tian said he couldn't really argue with Phupha about going back.
We did hear a lot from people about Tian having Torfun's heart. Part of this was due to the fact that different people were finding out at different time, so it kept coming up. In fairness, though, Tian brought it up a lot, too.
You are absolutely entitled to have you opinions on the matter. I'm just trying to illustrate why I feel differently.
Indeed. I love this show but have the sense to know that not everyone is going to feel the same way. As long as…
I hope you felt that you were able to say what you wanted to say about the show. What I've seen, so far, is that people don't respond well when someone moves away from focusing on the show and goes into putting down the posters who like the series, directly or indirectly. If you wrote a full critique of the show but were focused solely on the show a fan would be in the wrong to put you down, for that, either directly or indirectly. That's my opinion...
I also agree that his parents, most definitely his mother, are more concerned about appearances.
Tian did state that he was proud that he could do things he didn't think he could do.
Tian's entire journey in this tale is about redemption and forgiveness. Redemption for the way he frittered away his life before his transplant and extending forgiveness toward himself by accepting that he was worthy of that second chance. That was a process, though, and he was evasive and dishonest along the way. You forgave him for that, right?
It's unfortunate that you can't extend forgiveness to Phupha. He wasn't perfect. Both he and Tian made mistakes. One of the things I think the story is trying to tell us that forgiveness should be extended as far as we can.
I have to go to bed, now. Nice chatting with you!
I felt that Tian's initial rationale to leave home was twofold: he wanted to honour his self-perceived debt to Torfun and to escape his controlling home life. It took time for him being in the village to actually appreciate the things that money can't buy. I don't know that he had that awareness, beforehand.
As for his parents, that a reflection of the truism that parents in a number of Asian cultures, including Thailand, have a great deal of influence in the lives of their children, even their adult children. it might seem very strange to those of us outside of those cultures but it is a facet of Thai culture.
With Phupha, I see it as a twofold matter, as well. Yes, he wants Tian to move beyond living his life for Torfun but he also is someone who has a long history of stifling his own needs and want for higher purposes. Thai culture also puts a fair emphasis on material wealth and achievement.
Combine those things, and Phupha becomes very likely to want to discourage Tian from giving up his potential to be with a lowly state officer like himself. Phupha can also be very stubborn. In saying this, I'm not saying that I feel that Phupha was 100% right in what he did, but I'm looking more at why he did it.
In the end, Phupha realises that he was mistaken: otherwise he wouldn't have gone to the airport to ask Tian if Tian could forget about what Phupha asked him to previously forget about. (Tongue-twister!) I don't see malicious intent in what Phupha did. That's why I don't see it as manipulative. Misguided? Quite possibly, but not manipulative. When Tian asks Phupha if he'll wait for him. Phupha says he'll wait as long as it takes. There was a fundamental shift in Phupha from that meeting at the airport, onward. Just as Tian grew and developed, so did Phupha, in my opinion.
We did hear a lot from people about Tian having Torfun's heart. Part of this was due to the fact that different people were finding out at different time, so it kept coming up. In fairness, though, Tian brought it up a lot, too.
You are absolutely entitled to have you opinions on the matter. I'm just trying to illustrate why I feel differently.